Re: [Callers] Ladies

2017-10-14 Thread Angela DeCarlis via Callers
Hi Mary! A lot has already been written on the subject elsewhere, but the summary of why Larks and Ravens has become a great set of terms is that they correlate to the (L)eft and (R)ight positions at the end of a swing. The syllable count is the same when compared to Gent and Lady (or Man and

Re: [Callers] Ladies

2017-10-14 Thread Mary Collins via Callers
Ahem Tom...that would be "gender" lolSeriously, being of the more mature (and I use that term loosely) set, I find all these new names for ROLES to be troublesome and tiresome. Who exactly is a Lark & who exactly are Ravens? Because quite frankly I have mental pictures of bothfrom

Re: [Callers] Ladies

2017-10-14 Thread Tom Hinds via Callers
Thanks Angela. If only we could easily change our gender so we could understand what it's like to be the other sex. On Oct 14, 2017, at 11:32 AM, Angela DeCarlis wrote: Tom, I had this conversation with Sue Rosen this summer. Women who belong to the original Feminist generation (like

Re: [Callers] Ladies

2017-10-14 Thread Angela DeCarlis via Callers
Tom, I had this conversation with Sue Rosen this summer. Women who belong to the original Feminist generation (like Sue and, presumably, like Mary and Martha above) were involved in a cultural movement to abolish the word "Lady", along with its restrictive connotations, in favor of "Woman". The

Re: [Callers] Ladies

2017-10-14 Thread Mary Collins via Callers
Martha, I dont recall this dance of which you speak. Could you share the true title and calls? Thanks! I also cringe over ladies (I don't fit that tradition) yet it is a good "place holder, ROLE identifer" for my communities. On Oct 14, 2017 9:06 AM, "Tom Hinds via Callers" <

[Callers] Ladies

2017-10-14 Thread Tom Hinds via Callers
I must have fallen asleep during a discussion of "ladies". What's the issue? Sent from my iPad > On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:13 PM, Martha Wild via Callers > wrote: > > I’ve got a gypsy star dance (I actually call it “Star Wrong” and not just > because of the