Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-07 Thread James Saxe via Callers
Mac McKeever wrote: > It has been my experience that dancers with limited skills/ability often do > not realize they are different from anyone else. They assume that being lost > and confused during a dance is normal. > > Finding a gentle way to bring this to their attention might be a good w

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-07 Thread Bob Green via Callers
St. Louis does it similarly to what Linda describes. We have several dancers who are bound to be canonized. We have tried to build it into the ethos that on of the marks of a good dancer is there skill at helping challenged dancers and their neighbors have a good time. You will almost never see a n

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-07 Thread Claire Baffaut via Callers
John, I like what you said: "To do more certainly would be best with permission, awareness of offered assistance." This might be also be one of the way to give him/her a hint that there is a problem and that we are willing to help solve the said problem. Claire. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Ro

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-07 Thread Ron Blechner via Callers
I'd love to hear suggestions on how to approach a dancer like the one in question, and broach the subject. -Ron Blechner On Mar 7, 2017 1:20 PM, "JD Erskine via Callers" < callers@lists.sharedweight.net> wrote: > On 2017-03-07 0627, Martha Wild via Callers wrote: > >> I’d like to add another poi

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-07 Thread JD Erskine via Callers
On 2017-03-07 0627, Martha Wild via Callers wrote: I’d like to add another point to Neal’s reasoning: As a 5 foot 1 inch woman dancer (and a caller), I can also add that the female of the human species is known to generally be smaller than the male. major snip In general, then, it’s a lot ea

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-07 Thread Martha Wild via Callers
I’d like to add another point to Neal’s reasoning: As a 5 foot 1 inch woman dancer (and a caller), I can also add that the female of the human species is known to generally be smaller than the male. This is such a signature difference that on Voyager they included a graven image of the human sp

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-06 Thread Neal Schlein via Callers
Interesting observation, Alan. Yes, I've encountered it with female dancers as a dancer and caller. However...it isn't quite the same. I suspect it is both more apparent and more pronounced with men, AND that once they've braved the waters to come dancing the experience of it may be less likely t

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-06 Thread Linda S. Mrosko via Callers
We have had similar problems with a small number of dancers, mostly men. One suffered a stroke and was trying to dance to get himself back in shape, but he was extremely slow, confused and invariably always wanted to dance with newcomers, which confused them. As experienced dancers, we agreed to k

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-06 Thread Meg Dedolph via Callers
I've run into dancers as a caller and on the floor who fit this description - men and women both. Most of the time the problem seems to be that they can't get where they need to be on time, or they end a figure facing the wrong direction. But here's something that I learned in retrospect from an ev

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-06 Thread Winston, Alan P. via Callers
I've seen some responses on the organizers list and here, and I've thought about the persistent rock-in-the-stream dancer we had in Berkeley (who did, eventually, start modifying the dances so he could get where he needed on time, and who indeed various women would ask to dance or he'd be askin

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-06 Thread Mary Collins via Callers
We have a dancer here in Buffalo that has a hard time hearing and ear-mind process-motor response time is very very slow. (I worry about him driving). We have a loose house rule that the regular good lady dancers pair with this gentleman. Otherwise he will ask newbies to dance, and often is at th

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-06 Thread Meg Dedolph via Callers
A friend of mine with autistic kids shared something with me that she learned from her kids' therapist: some people have a hard time taking verbal direction for physical activity and do better by seeing a demonstration. So sometimes when I have a dancer on the floor who seems really confused, I thi

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-06 Thread Marie-Michèle Fournier via Callers
Thanks April and everyone else, this is giving me a lot of ideas to think about. To answer your question, he does not seem to understand the "damage" he's sometimes leaving in his wake, he might not realize the importance of being on time to help the other dancers. If anyone has a gentle way to sug

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-06 Thread April Blum via Callers
You want to avoid letting him pair up with a new dancer, so you might indeed want to have a confidential chat with the regular ladies who are also good leads, and see if they are willing to take turns dancing with him. Some techniques for his partners: Walk the swing and stop early to face in.

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-06 Thread Donna Hunt via Callers
er's discussion list Sent: Mon, Mar 6, 2017 3:17 pm Subject: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer? Hi everyone, Lately a new dancer has started coming to our dance and he is bad enough that he will often make the set break if the dance is moderately challenging. He s

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-06 Thread Linda Leslie via Callers
A while back, we had the same sort of challenge at one of the local dances. About a dozen of us from the dance community got together to problem solve. The group decided that if one of us made sure that the challenged dancer had a partner for each dance, that it would be good for the entire dan

Re: [Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-06 Thread Kalia Kliban via Callers
On 3/6/2017 12:13 PM, Marie-Michèle Fournier via Callers wrote: Hi everyone, Lately a new dancer has started coming to our dance and he is bad enough that he will often make the set break if the dance is moderately challenging. I'm sure other dances have had experience with similar troubles

[Callers] What to do with a really bad new dancer?

2017-03-06 Thread Marie-Michèle Fournier via Callers
Hi everyone, Lately a new dancer has started coming to our dance and he is bad enough that he will often make the set break if the dance is moderately challenging. He seems to have some kind of impairment and walks very stiffly which means he will often not be on time for a figure and also often