FRAUD ELECTIONS IN CAMBODIA 1979-2009 (in violation of 10 UN resolutions)
�� UN Passes Strong Resolution on Cambodia Human Rights Abuses Feb. 27, 1982 : UN Commission on Human Rights meeting in Geneva adopted a resolution condemning Vietnam��s occupation of Cambodia as a violation of Cambodian human rights. The vote was 28 in favor, 8 against, and 5 abstentions. Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia While CAMBODIA OCCUPIED BY VIETNAM 1979-2009. IF, WE KNEW, THE CONTENT OF THE SECRET AGREEMENT, MADE BY KING SIHANOUK AND PHAM VAN DONG, DURING JUNE 1970 ,IN HANOI, WE ALSO KNOW THE SECRET OF KING SIHANOUK. PRINCESS MONIQUE , COLLABORATION WITH THE KHMER ENEMY AS WELL IN VIOLATION OF THE 10 UN RESOLUTIONS. PRINCE SIHANOUK PM PHAM VAN DONG OF VIETNAM . June 8, 1970 No details of a North Vietnamese agreement with Prince Sihanouk are given following his return to Peking after a two-week visit to Hanoi. Saturday, March 14, 2009.Vietnam, Cambodia Assemblies Forge Ties Comrades Heng Samrin and Nguyen Phu Trong National Assembly President Heng Samrin on Friday called for stronger economic ties between Cambodia and Vietnam, following talks between the two parliaments. Over 90% of the member of the National Assembly are Vietnamese hinding behind the fake Cambodian names and ID. Such as CHEAM YEAP CPP/MP ( A VIETNAMESE ),committee chairman of Banking,commerce ,economicS,ETC... Vietnam��s National Assembly vice president, Tong Thiphong, met with Heng Samrin and other officials, including Senate President Chea Sim, Prime Minister Hun Sen and King Norodom Sihamoni, on a four-day visit. KING SIHAMONI IS A KHMER KING, BUT ALL HIS ADMINISTRATORS IN THE KINGDOM ARE ALMOST 90% VIETNAMESE INVADERS. NO POLICE DARE TO ARREST THE VIETNAMESE youth GANG,roaming THE CITY. NO ONE CAN TOUCH OR ARREST THESE VIETNAMESE YOUTH gang. CONSEQUENCES : VENDALISM PLAGUEs PHNOM PENH WITH THIS VIETNAMESE YOUTH GANG. KOHSANTEPHEAP CAMBODIAN PEOPLE LIVE IN TEARS UNDER THE VIETNAMESE OCCUPATION. WHAT RIGHTS DO THESE VIETNAMESE INVADERS HAVE TO RUN CAMBODIA IN VIOLATION OF THE 10 UN RESOLUTION? KING SIHAMONI IS A KHMER KING BUT ALL HIS ADMINISTRATORS IN THE KINGDOM ARE ALMOST 90% VIETNAMESE INVADERS. THEY ARE THIEVES AND KHMER KILLERS. Comrades Hun Sen(MARRIED TO A VIETNAMESE WOMAN ,MME BUN RANY ) and Nguyen Tan Dung. The HUN SEN'S VIETNAMESE Family Tree: One big happy family in Cambodia Hun Sen and his wife VIETNAMESE Bun Rany (seated) during the wedding of one of their children. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/IC20Ae03.html20 March 2007AsiaFinest.comBy Bertil Lintner By Chun Sakada, VOA Khmer Original report from Phnom Penh 13 March 2009 Svay Sitha,(a Vietnamese ) Cambodia's secretary of state at the Council of Ministers.IT CONFIRMS BY THIS BOOK : on the behavior and character of a Vietnamese. BOOK GIAI PHONG by T Terzani. It describes a Vietnamese as THIEF, A LIAR, A KILLER, A DECEIVER , a sleeper .. Minister of Information and government spokesman Khieu Kanharith.(A VIETNAMESE ) (Photo by: SOVANN PHILONG) KAMPUCHEAN PEOPLE adaptation adjustment . _ Hotmail�� goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Thai delegation arrived at Koh Kong in Cambodia(occupied by Vietnam )
while cambodia remains occupied by Vietnam 1979-2009 in violation of the 10 UN resolutions. �� UN Passes Strong Resolution on Cambodia Human Rights Abuses Feb. 27, 1982 : UN Commission on Human Rights meeting in Geneva adopted a resolution condemning Vietnam��s occupation of Cambodia as a violation of Cambodian human rights. The vote was 28 in favor, 8 against, and 5 abstentions. �� Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. KING SIHAMONI IS A KHMER KING, BUT ALL HIS ADMINISTRATORS IN THE KINGDOM ARE ALMOST 90% VIETNAMESE INVADERS. NO POLICE DARE TO ARREST THE VIETNAMESE youth GANG,roaming THE CITY. NO ONE CAN TOUCH OR ARREST THESE VIETNAMESE YOUTH gang. CONSEQUENCES : VENDALISM PLAGUEs PHNOM PENH WITH THIS VIETNAMESE YOUTH GANG. KOHSANTEPHEAP CAMBODIAN PEOPLE LIVE IN TEARS UNDER THE VIETNAMESE OCCUPATION. WHAT RIGHTS DO THESE VIETNAMESE INVADERS HAVE TO RUN CAMBODIA IN VIOLATION OF THE 10 UN RESOLUTION? KING SIHAMONI IS A KHMER KING BUT ALL HIS ADMINISTRATORS IN THE KINGDOM ARE ALMOST 90% VIETNAMESE INVADERS. THEY ARE THIEVES AND KHMER KILLERS. Svay Sitha,(a Vietnamese ) Cambodia's secretary of state at the Council of Ministers.IT CONFIRMS BY THIS BOOK : on the behavior and character of a Vietnamese. BOOK GIAI PHONG by T Terzani. It describes a Vietnamese as THIEF, A LIAR, A KILLER, A DECEIVER , a sleeper .. Minister of Information and government spokesman Khieu Kanharith.(A VIETNAMESE ) (Photo by: SOVANN PHILONG) The HUN SEN'S VIETNAMESE Family Tree: One big happy family in Cambodia Hun Sen and his wife VIETNAMESE Bun Rany (seated) during the wedding of one of their children. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/IC20Ae03.html20 Bury _ Hotmail�� has a new way to see what's up with your friends. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/WhatsNew?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_WhatsNew1_052009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Pan So Sak from the CPP Ministry of Commerce meeting with , Tom Barthel Hansen DANIDA REfael Dochao Moreno Ayumi Fujino UNIDO While Cambodia remains occupied by Vietnam 1979-2009 . UN Passes Strong Resolution on Cambodia Human Rights Abuses Feb. 27, 1982 : UN Commission on Human Rights meeting in Geneva adopted a resolution condemning Vietnam’s occupation of Cambodia as a violation of Cambodian human rights. The vote was 28 in favor, 8 against, and 5 abstentions. Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. KOHSANTEPHEAP CAMBODIAN PEOPLE LIVE IN TEARS UNDER THE VIETNAMESE OCCUPATION. WHAT RIGHTS DO THESE VIETNAMESE INVADERS HAVE TO RUN CAMBODIA IN VIOLATION OF THE 10 UN RESOLUTION? KING SIHAMONI IS A KHMER KING BUT ALL HIS ADMINISTRATORS IN THE KINGDOM ARE ALMOST 90% VIETNAMESE INVADERS. THEY ARE THIEVES AND KHMER KILLERS. Svay Sitha,(a Vietnamese ) Cambodia's secretary of state at the Council of Ministers.IT CONFIRMS BY THIS BOOK : on the behavior and character of a Vietnamese. BOOK GIAI PHONG by T Terzani. It describes a Vietnamese as THIEF, A LIAR, A KILLER, A DECEIVER , a sleeper .. Minister of Information and government spokesman Khieu Kanharith.(A VIETNAMESE ) (Photo by: SOVANN PHILONG) The HUN SEN'S VIETNAMESE Family Tree: One big happy family in Cambodia Hun Sen and his wife VIETNAMESE Bun Rany (seated) during the wedding of one of their children. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/IC20Ae03.html20 Bury _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_BR_life_in_synch_052009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
05-18-09 VIETNAMESE CRIMES IN CAMBODIA : in Phnom Penh
violence crimes and the Vietnamese police seen here . WHILE CAMBODIA REMAINS OCCUPIED BY VIETNAM ,IT'S FUTILE TO CONDUCT THIS SO CALLED COMMUNE ELECTION ,SANGKAT ,KHUM . IT'S A FRAUD. HERE IS WHY . Sunday, 17 May 2009 18:06 THIS VIETNAMESE SEEMS TO CONDUCT THE MEETING ON THIS COMMUNE ELECTION DONE WHILE CAMBODIA REMAINS OCCUPIED BY THE VIETNAMESE IN VIOLATION OF THE 10 UN RESOLUTIONS. VIETNAMESE CRIMES IN CAMBODIA FROM 1979-2009 UN Passes Strong Resolution on Cambodia Human Rights Abuses Feb. 27, 1982 : UN Commission on Human Rights meeting in Geneva adopted a resolution condemning Vietnam��s occupation of Cambodia as a violation of Cambodian human rights. The vote was 28 in favor, 8 against, and 5 abstentions. Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. �� Kaing Kek Iev, aka Duch, was arrested in 1999. According to the Morphology study on race and forensic data analysis ,Kaing Kek Iev, aka Duch is A VIETNAMESE. 100 TORTURE CENTERS across CAMBODIA. Vietnam's occupation of Cambodia 1979-1989 under Le Duc Tho rule. An estimated 460 000 innocent Cambodians died , killed , tortured, etc... 100 Torture centers were established across Cambodia. (Methods of torture described to Amnesty International). Methods of torture described to Amnesty International as being used by the Vietnamese forces of invasion and occupation of Cambodia under Le Duc Tho's rule, from 1979-1989, through the CPP/HUN SEN regime.( an estimated 460 000 innocent Cambodians died during that period) 1. Beatings with truncheons, sharp-edged wooden staves, and iron bars and whippings with chains and rubber hoses.( Methods of torture described to Amnesty International) 2. Near-suffocation with plastic bags,( Methods of torture described to Amnesty International) 3. Near-drowning in vats of water,( Methods of torture described to Amnesty International(Methods of torture described to Amnesty International) Last updated: 17:1 - May 16, 2009 International People Tribunal of Conscience to support Vietnamese AO victims opens The tribunal is attended by many foreigners who strongly support Vietnamese victims�� struggle for justice. The International Association of Democratic Lawyers (IADL) on May 15 convened a two-day International People��s Tribunal of Conscience in support of the Vietnamese Victims of Agent Orange in Paris, France. Opening the trial, President of the Tribunal - Jitendra Sharma, said : ��The chemical warfare waged by the United States against Vietnam though the use of Agent Orange and other dioxin laced chemicals from 1961 to 1971 has caused severe, massive and prolonged consequences for the environment, ecology and health of the people of Vietnam. From that time until the present no United States administration has acknowledged its liability for the consequences of the use of these chemicals. The United States took a position against liability for the firms which manufactured Agent Orange in the law suit filed by the Vietnam Association for the Victims of Agent Orange, (VAVA). In the name of Public Opinion and International Conscience, the International Peoples�� Tribunal of Conscience in support of the Vietnamese Victims of Agent Orange at the initiative of the International Association of Democratic Lawyers (IADL), will consider and draw conclusions on the matters: 1) The facts showing the consequences to the environment and ecology of Vietnam and to the health of the Vietnamese people caused by the use of Agent Orange by the United States Military from 1961 to 1971. 2) The responsibility of the United States administrations during 1961 to 1971 in the conduct of the chemical warfare in Vietnam under Customary International Laws. 3) The responsibility of the United States and providing firms for spraying Agent Orange on Vietnam in the remediation of the consequences to the environment and ecology of Vietnam and to the health of the Vietnamese people. On behalf of the Vietnam Association for Victims of Agent Orange/dioxin, VAVA President Nguyen Van Rinh pointed to the fact that the legacies of the US War in Vietnam during the 1960s and 1970s had caused enormous damages to the eco-environment and exposed more than 4.8 million people of Vietnam to poison. Out of about 3 millions who have become its victims, many have died, many others are surviving in agony due to strange and severe diseases and disabilities, many young children have been born with horrible and heart-felt deformities. After nearly 40 years, these affects still show no signs of fading as other wounds of war did. Instead they have exhibit even more devastating and long lasting manifestations than anyone ever expected. Meanwhile, the US who directly caused this tragedy has so far strived to
A GERMAN TOURIST Jens Joester Gayu AGE 26 died in Cambodia (occupied by vietnam )
KOSANTEPHEAP REPORTS FROM KAMPOT ,A GERMAN TOURIST DIED IN THIS WAY . �� UN Passes Strong Resolution on Cambodia Human Rights Abuses Feb. 27, 1982 : UN Commission on Human Rights meeting in Geneva adopted a resolution condemning Vietnam��s occupation of Cambodia as a violation of Cambodian human rights. The vote was 28 in favor, 8 against, and 5 abstentions. �� Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. CAMBODIAN PEOPLE LIVE IN TEARS UNDER THE VIETNAMESE OCCUPATION. WHAT RIGHTS DO THESE VIETNAMESE INVADERS HAVE TO RUN CAMBODIA IN VIOLATION OF THE 10 UN RESOLUTION? Svay Sitha,(a Vietnamese ) Cambodia's secretary of state at the Council of Ministers.IT CONFIRMS BY THIS BOOK : on the behavior and character of a Vietnamese. BOOK GIAI PHONG by T Terzani. It describes a Vietnamese as THIEF, A LIAR, A KILLER, A DECEIVER , a sleeper .. Minister of Information and government spokesman Khieu Kanharith.(A VIETNAMESE ) (Photo by: SOVANN PHILONG) The HUN SEN'S VIETNAMESE Family Tree: One big happy family in Cambodia Hun Sen and his wife VIETNAMESE Bun Rany (seated) during the wedding of one of their children. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/IC20Ae03.html20 Bury _ Hotmail�� goes with you. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Mobile?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Mobile1_052009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Mrs Jens Joester Gayu AGE 26 died in Cambodia explained ...Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 05:42:37 -0700 KOSANTEPHEAP REPORTS FROM KAMPOT ,A GERMAN TOURIST DIED IN THIS WAY . �� UN Passes Strong Resolution on Cambodia Human Rights Abuses Feb. 27, 1982 : UN Commission on Human Rights meeting in Geneva adopted a resolution condemning Vietnam's occupation of Cambodia as a violation of Cambodian human rights. The vote was 28 in favor, 8 against, and 5 abstentions. Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. CAMBODIAN PEOPLE LIVE IN TEARS UNDER THE VIETNAMESE OCCUPATION. WHAT RIGHTS DO THESE VIETNAMESE INVADERS HAVE TO RUN CAMBODIA IN VIOLATION OF THE 10 UN RESOLUTION? Svay Sitha,(a Vietnamese ) Cambodia's secretary of state at the Council of Ministers.IT CONFIRMS BY THIS BOOK : on the behavior and character of a Vietnamese. BOOK GIAI PHONG by T Terzani. It describes a Vietnamese as THIEF, A LIAR, A KILLER, A DECEIVER , a sleeper .. Minister of Information and government spokesman Khieu Kanharith.(A VIETNAMESE ) (Photo by: SOVANN PHILONG) The HUN SEN'S VIETNAMESE Family Tree: One big happy family in Cambodia Hun Sen and his wife VIETNAMESE Bun Rany (seated) during the wedding of one of their children. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/IC20Ae03.html20 Bury _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage1_052009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poem Proyatt Chum Ngeuh Krun...
Dear all, I'm not surprised by this, Xmer gorvernment today would lease everything, 60 years...80years..100years...only the Palais Royal still in bargaining. Ofcourse, Beung Keng Kang would retain his name but you don't have to row the canoe to Bes Phkah Chhouk at BKK anymore, just like you the way you go to Oh Reussei on Cyclo or Motor doub. KC, Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Sun, 5/17/09, Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Vonglokruta Khema kvonglokr...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Poem Proyatt Chum Ngeuh Krun... To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Date: Sunday, May 17, 2009, 7:30 PM Mail #yiv838082673 #yiv1439530658 table.form th {text-align:right;padding-right:5px;vertical-align:top;} Loading picture... KounKhmer To: Vonglokruta Subject: This is good or insane? Date: May 17 5:43 PM Read if you care! - 99 yrs? holy cow. just imagine that! - so will there be Beung Keng Kang in Phnom Penh, i mean the real lake. well, may be the name Beung Keng Kang will remain the same for the next generation to call but i'm not sure will there be a lake that full of water. - what exactly will that foreign company do with the land? - if this contract works out, $79 millions dollars gonna be somehow beneficial for Khmer people as a whole? well, thanks for reading this. i hope you all be aware of it. just a clarification, this is NOT in any way to convey you with negative opinions or bias about the issue. all the information above is what i got from one of the reliable news site. some of you may take this as a good thing while others think it's insane! the truth is who's know? do you own thinking! WARNING: if you choose to reply, please be nice!! as you know it's the most annoying thing ever for people to get bunch of crap messages without any INPUT (reasonable opinions) instead just to get exposed (reply to everyone with blank message)! if you still do it, no one has control over that, but you should be ashamed of yourself! ps: don't mean to be harsh! sorry... Scrapbook Beung Kok area will be leased to foreign company for 99 YEARS in exchange of $79 MILLIONS, the lake is now being filled up with soil. Soon we'll no longer have Beung Kok! How's sad? --- On Sat, 16/5/09, Khoar Chev kourk_chh...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Khoar Chev kourk_chh...@yahoo.com Subject: Poem Proyatt Chum Ngeuh Krun... To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Received: Saturday, 16 May, 2009, 11:44 PM Dear all , please see poem attach. Thank you, KC Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) Need a Holiday? Win a $10,000 Holiday of your choice. Enter now. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Re: My Cambodian foster daughter
Dear Len, According to the law of increase, when you give, it should be a pleasure to give and for a right cause. If you are sincere, meaning to give without a string attach, what you gave out will return to you in multiply at a right place and time, not necessarily in term of money, but other things, sometime even money can not buy such as health, happiness and longer life. However, you are being deceived to give which you do not like when found out as the money is to be misused by a receiver or deceiver then it is like sowing a seed on a pavement road or in a desert, in this case it’s would be fruitless for anyone. Many government official workers get about $300 per month, but most drive Lexus SUV. They do not recognize any spiritual principle of generosity from their donors. If they do they would have share some of the donors’ aid with their own people, but they don’t. It's a blessing to give than to receive. Many countries including you are handling out aid to Cambodia and other poor third world countries and fulfill the law of increase. If Cambodia and its government are only interested in getting the handouts and never give anything back to less fortune countries than itself especially when in a bad disaster like earthquakes, cyclones, floods and wars then Cambodia will always remain poor for a very long time. You have good intention for your foster daughter. If she prepares to lie because someone else tells her to lie, she is partly responsible for that act and not totally innocent. You have the good intentions and hope it will bear some fruits some days. On May 18, 2:53 pm, Len Graceffo rosedalepa...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear TSC, Thank you for your feedback. I needed to hear that. I'm so ashamed of Canada for being a puppet of the U.S. and sitting back while the U.S. bombed the shit out of Cambodia. We're responsible for the KR's atrocities by allowing them to stay in power as long as we did. My hope was that maybe not the parents but the children would recognize the spiritual principle of generousity and incorporate that into their lives as they grow older. Planting a small seed might bear fruit down the road. Among people 40 and over trust seems to be an issue amongst themselves. When I started this 2 years ago I told the family I would do this until Srey Mach was 18. I've also told Srey Mach that I will send her to University with room and board if she wants/qualifies. Just her. I'm aware that if she chooses this I will have to put controls in place. You're absolutely right about the values of hard work but are there any jobs in the rual villages besides sporadic farming? Many people seem to be unemployed. Aside from the bustling markets and the older people who seem to be busy its the 18-25 year olds who seem to have a lot of time on their hands. Maybe I am doing more harm than good. I work a minimum of 60 hour weeks in the oilsands of Alberta, Canada. I know the value of a dollar. Thanx again. Regards, Lenny G Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 08:35:00 -0700 Subject: Re: My Cambodian foster daughter From: timothych...@aol.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Hi Lenny, You are caught in the never-ending support to these people. $100.00 a month falling from the sky is very helpful for any family, regardless of its size. Many people are breaking their back for $50.00 (of some 60 hours/week hard-laboring work) in a factory. While I appreciate your good intention, I think you do more harm than help by not teaching these people the values of hard work. I doubt that you can get this $100.00 from a Canadian tree; you work for it, don’t you? Cambodian society now is a society dominated by “beggars” where many people expect special handouts from people like you and others who are heartbroken from seeing their poverty and injustices in Cambodia. They love you to death when you feed them freely, but at the moment that you stop helping them or putting any conditions on them, it’s almost certain that you will become their foe overnight. If this will happen, please don’t be disappointed. Just think that it was an unconditional love that you have for them. Such thought may set you free, but that is what they are banking on. 100 years from now, these people will still begging for free contributions. There are so many tricks and lies (I have no ideas where they learned them from) to break your heart. Some use sickness, diseases and family’s problems to beg; some use social or political injustices to request your assistance; others just create their personal lies. It happens throughout the country and in all institutions. It is a cancer in Cambodian modern society. Government is looking for handouts; politicians are also looking for handouts and NGOs, too, are looking for handouts; and much of contributions have been abused. When is it going to end? One Cambodian lives near me here in New York was
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RE: CECT A380i Dual Sim Touchsceen Smart Phone - Absolutely Awesome
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RE: CECT A380i Dual Sim Touchsceen Smart Phone - Absolutely Awesome
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RE: CECT A380i Dual Sim Touchsceen Smart Phone - Absolutely Awesome
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UN Passes Strong Resolution on Cambodia Human Rights Abuses Feb. 27, 1982 : UN Commission on Human Rights meeting in Geneva adopted a resolution condemning Vietnam's occupation of Cambodia as a violation of Cambodian human rights. The vote was 28 in favor, 8 against, and 5 abstentions. Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. CAMBODIAN PEOPLE LIVE IN TEARS UNDER THE VIETNAMESE OCCUPATION. WHAT RIGHTS DO THESE VIETNAMESE INVADERS HAVE TO RUN CAMBODIA IN VIOLATION OF THE 10 UN RESOLUTION? Svay Sitha,(a Vietnamese ) Cambodia's secretary of state at the Council of Ministers.IT CONFIRMS BY THIS BOOK : on the behavior and character of a Vietnamese. BOOK GIAI PHONG by T Terzani. It describes a Vietnamese as THIEF, A LIAR, A KILLER, A DECEIVER , a sleeper .. Minister of Information and government spokesman Khieu Kanharith.(A VIETNAMESE ) (Photo by: SOVANN PHILONG) The HUN SEN'S VIETNAMESE Family Tree: One big happy family in Cambodia Hun Sen and his wife VIETNAMESE Bun Rany (seated) during the wedding of one of their children. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/IC20Ae03.html20 Bury Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:33:01 +0700 Subject: CECT A380i Dual Sim Touchsceen Smart Phone - Absolutely Awesome From: yenegute.yard...@gmail.com To: milogr...@googlegroups.com; arena-siya...@googlegroups.com; slack-users...@googlegroups.com; nsein...@googlegroups.com; keralajollyfrie...@googlegroups.com; symfony...@googlegroups.com; toyotei...@googlegroups.com; ror...@googlegroups.com; j2ee_j...@googlegroups.com; logiademaso...@googlegroups.com; jra...@googlegroups.com; origami-kawak...@googlegroups.com; jquery-...@googlegroups.com; playgirlhu...@googlegroups.com; genealogia-mex...@googlegroups.com; mootools-us...@googlegroups.com; centrofo...@googlegroups.com; real-estate-india-onl...@googlegroups.com; sqlalch...@googlegroups.com; chromium-...@googlegroups.com; atividades-educacao-infantil-fu...@googlegroups.com; gatw...@googlegroups.com; sh...@googlegroups.com; microsoft-sistem-uz...@googlegroups.com; ligfi...@googlegroups.com; new-virtual-university-pakis...@googlegroups.com; mapinf...@googlegroups.com; comicsstr...@googlegroups.com; tvorno...@googlegroups.com; ar...@googlegroups.com; turkiye-sevd...@googlegroups.com; us_it_sa...@googlegroups.com; kad...@googlegroups.com; pylons-disc...@googlegroups.com; puppet-us...@googlegroups.com; ze...@googlegroups.com; ccnet-u...@googlegroups.com; testers-softw...@googlegroups.com; php-bra...@googlegroups.com; ddd55...@googlegroups.com; albah...@googlegroups.com; n...@googlegroups.com; ltgs...@googlegroups.com; cowork...@googlegroups.com; pb...@googlegroups.com; sharepoint-discuss...@googlegroups.com; abor...@googlegroups.com; the-freshwater-aquar...@googlegroups.com; sarma...@googlegroups.com; t...@googlegroups.com; kayooo...@googlegroups.com; hiring_for_...@googlegroups.com; camdisc@googlegroups.com; stoxd...@googlegroups.com; sk...@googlegroups.com; glassye...@googlegroups.com; gam...@googlegroups.com; vintage-m...@googlegroups.com; boa-id...@googlegroups.com; todo-llega-en-su-justo-mome...@googlegroups.com; sistema-de-ajuda-mu...@googlegroups.com; blackberry-conc...@googlegroups.com; ada2...@googlegroups.com; porn-actresses-and-mod...@googlegroups.com; lookh...@googlegroups.com; michigan-j...@googlegroups.com; amplandbond...@googlegroups.com; dirtymomj...@googlegroups.com; bondageampl...@googlegroups.com; crossdressingph...@googlegroups.com; de...@googlegroups.com; freehentaimo...@googlegroups.com; arkansas-j...@googlegroups.com; hotanimeg...@googlegroups.com; alwt...@googlegroups.com; allindi...@googlegroups.com; new-mexico-j...@googlegroups.com; rest...@googlegroups.com; fantasies...@googlegroups.com; sudhi0...@googlegroups.com; allshar...@googlegroups.com; connecticut-j...@googlegroups.com; detroitpo...@googlegroups.com; therealc...@googlegroups.com; bronxpo...@googlegroups.com; mail-to-recruit...@googlegroups.com; idea-krea...@googlegroups.com; all-sexy-...@googlegroups.com; realworkath...@googlegroups.com; danverspo...@googlegroups.com; sheli...@googlegroups.com; piadaris...@googlegroups.com; fun-work-at-h...@googlegroups.com; promobis...@googlegroups.com; zapa...@googlegroups.com; pipoca_e_guar...@googlegroups.com; mustafamut...@googlegroups.com; asd...@googlegroups.com; mevlaya-emanet-olsun-erzu...@googlegroups.com; d...@googlegroups.com; bisnis-pulsa-elekt...@googlegroups.com; dlf-gardenc...@googlegroups.com; freshersdr...@googlegroups.com; at-home-money-ma...@googlegroups.com; delhibird...@googlegroups.com; moneyadvi...@googlegroups.com; franquic...@googlegroups.com; us-t...@googlegroups.com; mumb...@googlegroups.com; lift...@googlegroups.com; yourpr...@googlegroups.com; free-the-mo...@googlegroups.com; pakistani_familysex_gr...@googlegroups.com;
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Hi Lenny, Thanks for your reply. Working doesn't mean that one must be employed. I have been to Kralanh and Samrong and I know that the people are destitute, there. But, many people have so much free time that they can turn your contributions into gold with a little effort, if they want to. However, many people chose to sit around and do nothing, not even planting some household vegetables to feed the family. They would rather go to the market to buy things that they can produce themselves with little effort. Some don't even clean their home, backyard and or front yard and they rather sit around with garbage all over the place. Many would rather spend time playing card and singing Karaoke in the nearby shop. That is what I call abuse. I used to do the same thing like you do by funding monthly money to support my siblings, nieces and nephews; but much of the funds had been gone with the wind. I stopped! Realizing that they had no choice but to work for the money, then everyone started to work harder and now they are self-reliant and I will only help them when they can prove that they want to help themselves first. Here is a link of some picture of a road to Samrong http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-639wS4f6k Have a great day. == On May 18, 12:53 am, Len Graceffo rosedalepa...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear TSC, Thank you for your feedback. I needed to hear that. I'm so ashamed of Canada for being a puppet of the U.S. and sitting back while the U.S. bombed the shit out of Cambodia. We're responsible for the KR's atrocities by allowing them to stay in power as long as we did. My hope was that maybe not the parents but the children would recognize the spiritual principle of generousity and incorporate that into their lives as they grow older. Planting a small seed might bear fruit down the road. Among people 40 and over trust seems to be an issue amongst themselves. When I started this 2 years ago I told the family I would do this until Srey Mach was 18. I've also told Srey Mach that I will send her to University with room and board if she wants/qualifies. Just her. I'm aware that if she chooses this I will have to put controls in place. You're absolutely right about the values of hard work but are there any jobs in the rual villages besides sporadic farming? Many people seem to be unemployed. Aside from the bustling markets and the older people who seem to be busy its the 18-25 year olds who seem to have a lot of time on their hands. Maybe I am doing more harm than good. I work a minimum of 60 hour weeks in the oilsands of Alberta, Canada. I know the value of a dollar. Thanx again. Regards, Lenny G Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 08:35:00 -0700 Subject: Re: My Cambodian foster daughter From: timothych...@aol.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Hi Lenny, You are caught in the never-ending support to these people. $100.00 a month falling from the sky is very helpful for any family, regardless of its size. Many people are breaking their back for $50.00 (of some 60 hours/week hard-laboring work) in a factory. While I appreciate your good intention, I think you do more harm than help by not teaching these people the values of hard work. I doubt that you can get this $100.00 from a Canadian tree; you work for it, don’t you? Cambodian society now is a society dominated by “beggars” where many people expect special handouts from people like you and others who are heartbroken from seeing their poverty and injustices in Cambodia. They love you to death when you feed them freely, but at the moment that you stop helping them or putting any conditions on them, it’s almost certain that you will become their foe overnight. If this will happen, please don’t be disappointed. Just think that it was an unconditional love that you have for them. Such thought may set you free, but that is what they are banking on. 100 years from now, these people will still begging for free contributions. There are so many tricks and lies (I have no ideas where they learned them from) to break your heart. Some use sickness, diseases and family’s problems to beg; some use social or political injustices to request your assistance; others just create their personal lies. It happens throughout the country and in all institutions. It is a cancer in Cambodian modern society. Government is looking for handouts; politicians are also looking for handouts and NGOs, too, are looking for handouts; and much of contributions have been abused. When is it going to end? One Cambodian lives near me here in New York was notified by his siblings in Cambodia that his mother had died two times on different dates. Before knowing that he was being deceived, the man had depleted his savings and cash from his credit card. Yes, Cambodians need help, but they must work… and prove that they “do work.” The value of your free assistance is worth as
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Bro Tim and all, Bang Sothon, I can't agree more. I've never been in Cambodia for 30 years, but keep hearing the same thing from different people returned from visiting relatives in Cambodia that their relatives there today are so lazy ( Sorry I said what they told me ), everything they have to buy from the market even vegies such as mint, peppers, lemon grass etc , for most of us here even we don't own a house we still be able to grow them in container or planter ...don't know why they are so spoiled? KC Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Mon, 5/18/09, TSC timothych...@aol.com wrote: From: TSC timothych...@aol.com Subject: Re: My Cambodian foster daughter To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 10:44 AM Hi Lenny, Thanks for your reply. Working doesn't mean that one must be employed. I have been to Kralanh and Samrong and I know that the people are destitute, there. But, many people have so much free time that they can turn your contributions into gold with a little effort, if they want to. However, many people chose to sit around and do nothing, not even planting some household vegetables to feed the family. They would rather go to the market to buy things that they can produce themselves with little effort. Some don't even clean their home, backyard and or front yard and they rather sit around with garbage all over the place. Many would rather spend time playing card and singing Karaoke in the nearby shop. That is what I call abuse. I used to do the same thing like you do by funding monthly money to support my siblings, nieces and nephews; but much of the funds had been gone with the wind. I stopped! Realizing that they had no choice but to work for the money, then everyone started to work harder and now they are self-reliant and I will only help them when they can prove that they want to help themselves first. Here is a link of some picture of a road to Samrong http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-639wS4f6k Have a great day. == On May 18, 12:53 am, Len Graceffo rosedalepa...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear TSC, Thank you for your feedback. I needed to hear that. I'm so ashamed of Canada for being a puppet of the U.S. and sitting back while the U.S. bombed the shit out of Cambodia. We're responsible for the KR's atrocities by allowing them to stay in power as long as we did. My hope was that maybe not the parents but the children would recognize the spiritual principle of generousity and incorporate that into their lives as they grow older. Planting a small seed might bear fruit down the road. Among people 40 and over trust seems to be an issue amongst themselves. When I started this 2 years ago I told the family I would do this until Srey Mach was 18. I've also told Srey Mach that I will send her to University with room and board if she wants/qualifies. Just her. I'm aware that if she chooses this I will have to put controls in place. You're absolutely right about the values of hard work but are there any jobs in the rual villages besides sporadic farming? Many people seem to be unemployed. Aside from the bustling markets and the older people who seem to be busy its the 18-25 year olds who seem to have a lot of time on their hands. Maybe I am doing more harm than good. I work a minimum of 60 hour weeks in the oilsands of Alberta, Canada. I know the value of a dollar. Thanx again. Regards, Lenny G Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 08:35:00 -0700 Subject: Re: My Cambodian foster daughter From: timothych...@aol.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Hi Lenny, You are caught in the never-ending support to these people. $100.00 a month falling from the sky is very helpful for any family, regardless of its size. Many people are breaking their back for $50.00 (of some 60 hours/week hard-laboring work) in a factory. While I appreciate your good intention, I think you do more harm than help by not teaching these people the values of hard work. I doubt that you can get this $100.00 from a Canadian tree; you work for it, don’t you? Cambodian society now is a society dominated by “beggars” where many people expect special handouts from people like you and others who are heartbroken from seeing their poverty and injustices in Cambodia. They love you to death when you feed them freely, but at the moment that you stop helping them or putting any conditions on them, it’s almost certain that you will become their foe overnight. If this will happen, please don’t be disappointed. Just think that it was an unconditional love that you have for them. Such thought may set you free, but that is what they are banking on. 100 years from now, these people will still begging for free contributions. There are so many tricks and lies (I have no ideas where they learned them from) to break your heart. Some use sickness, diseases and family’s problems to beg;
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Dear Lenny G To response to your request, I want to acknowledge your accomplishment in life. I believe...You have done so much to help yourself, your family and reach out to your friends when they needed your assistance. Being a good role model, we have lead our lives into the right direction. We gave love and we received love from our partner. The products of our love have given us beautiful children. When our kids were born, we as parents nurture them with love, took care of them, gave them shelter, and trained them to be productive human beings. We love our children unconditionally, but we need to educate them to be independent responsible adults. *The same is said, when we become a sponsor for a family, we as individuals can only do so much to help others. And, I feel over all you have done a great job. * Love and Respect, D.T. *Note*: I have learned from my ~30 experience as a married man and father of 27 years old son. On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:52 PM, Len Graceffo rosedalepa...@hotmail.comwrote: I forgot to mention that I just gave them $400.00 cash to cover the 4 months I'm in Asia. Surely that would be enough to buy seed to make rice,expand/rent more farmland? I don't like NGO's that will use my momey to stay in $ 300.00U.S. hotels which is why I decided to deal with the family directly. Thanx again for letting me vent. I feel better. Regards Lenny G -- From: rosedalepa...@hotmail.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Subject: My Cambodian foster daughter Date: Sat, 16 May 2009 00:44:39 -0500 Hello Everybody!!! I really need some advice. Please read the following correspondences with my friend Shelly in Canada. I've been told by foreigners living in Cambodia that the poor can't go to bed with money in their pocket as they're programmed to a day to day survival mentality. I'm a Canadian who has been giving $100.00 U.S./month for the last 2 years to a family of 7 (5 kids). That's about $157.00 CDN with the exchange and western union fees that they don't seem to understand. The mother can't read I found out as I was pointing to the months written in Khmer in my translation book and she didn't understand. But she knows her numbers !!! The attractive, intelligent 17 year old girl Mach lives in Krawlann,Siem Reap behind the market in a shack off of National Rd #6 at the intersection of the road that goes north to O'Smach. My recent trip a month ago revealed that food prices are a lot higher than Thailand's. Why? A skinny whole chicken cost 150 baht !!! I've been told that university educated people don't earn $100.00/month U.S. I don't want her ending up in prostitution as she's the eldest daughter. They keep asking for more money and its making me angry. Can't they just accept $100.00 U.S and be grateful? This time it's to make rice up at the family farm in Samrong. I told the parents that they can do whatever they want with the money as long as Mach is in English school for the half day I believe and the other half in Khmer. I've just told her a few days ago I want her needs met and to tell her mother that $50.00/month is for Mach and the other 50 is for the family. I give $100.00U.S./month to cover any lost wages since Mach is supposed to be studying. I really like her Dad Pin. He's a driver/farmer apparently and seems to work the Krawlann/Samrong/Anlong Veng triangle. With all those kids is it possible to save money out of that $100.00U.S. I'm lost. I feel like cutting them off or reducing it to $50.00/month Please advise, Lenny G -- From: rosedalepa...@hotmail.com To: rosedalepa...@hotmail.com Subject: FW: clip Date: Fri, 15 May 2009 23:48:34 -0500 -- Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 10:02:14 -0600 Subject: Re: clip From: slstewar...@gmail.com To: rosedalepa...@hotmail.com Hi Sweetie, I am so sorry how things have gone side ways with Mach and her family. You are quite right when you say how sad for them. However, they will learn the age old lesson of, you don't know what you've got til its gone! I am glad you have made peace with your self. Len, you are a very loving and generous man who just wants to make a difference. Please don't let this change that wonderful quality that so few people possess. In saying that I know you will move on and learn from it. Lots of Love Shelley PS. Do You have an idea when you will be home? On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:09 AM, Len Graceffo rosedalepa...@hotmail.comwrote: I've really sorted things out in my soul. My Cambo daughter keeps asking for more money as I hear her ungrateful mother in the background coach her. To the mothers credit she did offer to send me back the $600.00 I sent her sick son about 6 months ago. She didn't know that her son pressured Mach into lying to me. I knew the 18 yr old son Gia just wanted a cell phone and money He used his younger sister to ask me. I don't know if I told you
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Lenn, I’m so impressed by your generosity and compassion for these people and thank you. Majority of Khmer oversea always support to their family in Cambodia in one way or other. My family often sent thousands of dollars to support family, friends or anonym people through personal initiation, organizations or associations, often to support a project, rarely a personnel needs. But our efforts seem to be so derisory comparing to the needs of these people as if we put a pinch of salt in the big river of needs believing it will salt the entire river. Everything in Cambodia are as much expensive comparing to what they earn per month to offer these people a dignity living even they have a nice job except for few spoiled people that sleep over soiled dollars. Majority of people working so hard from morning to night, sometime at their risk of their life but still cant have enough to feed their mouth and those of their family. Everyone have to do anything as they can just to feed their stomach including doing something which lead to lose their dignity as human. Most of all, you can do nothing with empty hands. Government did nothing to support project or living of people beside repression over them as robbing international aides then redistribution a small part of it in form of derisory welfare objects like sac of rice, pieces of cloth just to make them look more miserable and to make propaganda for their regime and party. They have to live in a sort of unfair atmosphere which leads them to lose all dignity as human. Poverty alone cant explain these odd things happened among Cambodians but influence and culture of those who dominate and decide their life. So your adopted daughter as well her family doesn’t only need your money alone but mostly your helps and intelligence get over that kind of life to live free and in dignity and to live free and in dignity they must first earn their liberty and rights. Liberty of thinking, liberty of access to universal knowledge and liberty of decide of their destiny which they don’t have actually. And these things can not be earned without fighting. International community must stop to supply and support this kind of government, not only in Cambodia as they always did because this kind of government has no regard to people life and dignity if not, they will not have less crime in hands than those criminals at all. Regards == On May 18, 12:53 am, Len Graceffo rosedalepa...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear TSC, Thank you for your feedback. I needed to hear that. I'm so ashamed of Canada for being a puppet of the U.S. and sitting back while the U.S. bombed the shit out of Cambodia. We're responsible for the KR's atrocities by allowing them to stay in power as long as we did. My hope was that maybe not the parents but the children would recognize the spiritual principle of generousity and incorporate that into their lives as they grow older. Planting a small seed might bear fruit down the road. Among people 40 and over trust seems to be an issue amongst themselves. When I started this 2 years ago I told the family I would do this until Srey Mach was 18. I've also told Srey Mach that I will send her to University with room and board if she wants/qualifies. Just her. I'm aware that if she chooses this I will have to put controls in place. You're absolutely right about the values of hard work but are there any jobs in the rual villages besides sporadic farming? Many people seem to be unemployed. Aside from the bustling markets and the older people who seem to be busy its the 18-25 year olds who seem to have a lot of time on their hands. Maybe I am doing more harm than good. I work a minimum of 60 hour weeks in the oilsands of Alberta, Canada. I know the value of a dollar. Thanx again. Regards, Lenny G Date: Sun, 17 May 2009 08:35:00 -0700 Subject: Re: My Cambodian foster daughter From: timothych...@aol.com To: camdisc@googlegroups.com Hi Lenny, You are caught in the never-ending support to these people. $100.00 a month falling from the sky is very helpful for any family, regardless of its size. Many people are breaking their back for $50.00 (of some 60 hours/week hard-laboring work) in a factory. While I appreciate your good intention, I think you do more harm than help by not teaching these people the values of hard work. I doubt that you can get this $100.00 from a Canadian tree; you work for it, don’t you? Cambodian society now is a society dominated by “beggars” where many people expect special handouts from people like you and others who are heartbroken from seeing their poverty and injustices in Cambodia. They love you to death when you feed them freely,
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Hi KC, When I told my relatives that I had to plant flowers and vegetations in my living room, family room and in the kitchen, they were laughing. Perhaps, thinking that I was lying to have them plant things in the same fashion. Inspecting their lands around their home, I knew I could do a lot of things with the kind of soil that my relatives have. I bought them seeds of all kinds of vegetable and gardening flower and asking them to grow them. Many month later, I went back to check to see if they had grown them. They told me that there was not much rain to grow anything. I told them that I had dug nice wells for them to use the water for such purposes. They told me that it was too hard to water the plants with well water. Meanwhile, they rather asked for more money to go shopping for things that they could grow themselves and had the nerve to complain that those things have gotten more expensive. On the other hand, most Vietnamese and Chinese are working real hard for their money. They work hard from collecting cans, fishing, growing fruits and vegetables, selling all kinds of products and they don’t expect any handouts. They would risk their life to come into Cambodia for such an opportunity to work the land. Many of these individuals, except the newcomers, were in the same Pol Pot regime and yet they have managed to rise from poverty quicker than most Cambodians. We need to change their mentality from being sluggish to energetic and stop depending on others to feed them forever. In this competitive world we cannot have both free time and money at the same time unless you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Cambodians can become self-sufficient like any other people in the world, but they must work. Maybe it’s time for the world, country of donors and politicians to stop “giving them fish, but teach them how to fish”… and let them fish or be starved. Somehow I feel that many of them are being spoiled! If you don’t work, you don’t eat! Thanks KC === On May 18, 2:20 pm, kourk_chh...@yahoo.com wrote: Bro Tim and all, Bang Sothon, I can't agree more. I've never been in Cambodia for 30 years, but keep hearing the same thing from different people returned from visiting relatives in Cambodia that their relatives there today are so lazy ( Sorry I said what they told me ), everything they have to buy from the market even vegies such as mint, peppers, lemon grass etc , for most of us here even we don't own a house we still be able to grow them in container or planter ...don't know why they are so spoiled? KC Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Mon, 5/18/09, TSC timothych...@aol.com wrote: From: TSC timothych...@aol.com Subject: Re: My Cambodian foster daughter To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 10:44 AM Hi Lenny, Thanks for your reply. Working doesn't mean that one must be employed. I have been to Kralanh and Samrong and I know that the people are destitute, there. But, many people have so much free time that they can turn your contributions into gold with a little effort, if they want to. However, many people chose to sit around and do nothing, not even planting some household vegetables to feed the family. They would rather go to the market to buy things that they can produce themselves with little effort. Some don't even clean their home, backyard and or front yard and they rather sit around with garbage all over the place. Many would rather spend time playing card and singing Karaoke in the nearby shop. That is what I call abuse. I used to do the same thing like you do by funding monthly money to support my siblings, nieces and nephews; but much of the funds had been gone with the wind. I stopped! Realizing that they had no choice but to work for the money, then everyone started to work harder and now they are self-reliant and I will only help them when they can prove that they want to help themselves first. Here is a link of some picture of a road to Samrong http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-639wS4f6k Have a great day. == On May 18, 12:53 am, Len Graceffo rosedalepa...@hotmail.com wrote: Dear TSC, Thank you for your feedback. I needed to hear that. I'm so ashamed of Canada for being a puppet of the U.S. and sitting back while the U.S. bombed the shit out of Cambodia. We're responsible for the KR's atrocities by allowing them to stay in power as long as we did. My hope was that maybe not the parents but the children would recognize the spiritual principle of generousity and incorporate that into their lives as they grow older. Planting a small seed might bear fruit down the road. Among people 40 and over trust seems to be an issue amongst themselves. When I started this 2 years ago I told the family I would do this until Srey Mach was 18. I've also told Srey Mach that I will send her to University with room
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On May 15, 10:44 pm, Len Graceffo rosedalepa...@hotmail.com wrote: Hello Everybody!!! I really need some advice. Please read the following correspondences with my friend Shelly in Canada. I've been told by foreigners living in Cambodia that the poor can't go to bed with money in their pocket as they're programmed to a day to day survival mentality. I'm a Canadian who has been giving $100.00 U.S./month for the last 2 years to a family of 7 (5 kids). That's about $157.00 CDN with the exchange and western union fees that they don't seem to understand. The mother can't read I found out as I was pointing to the months written in Khmer in my translation book and she didn't understand. But she knows her numbers !!! The attractive, intelligent 17 year old girl Mach lives in Krawlann,Siem Reap behind the market in a shack off of National Rd #6 at the intersection of the road that goes north to O'Smach. My recent trip a month ago revealed that food prices are a lot higher than Thailand's. Why? A skinny whole chicken cost 150 baht !!! I've been told that university educated people don't earn $100.00/month U.S. I don't want her ending up in prostitution as she's the eldest daughter. They keep asking for more money and its making me angry. Can't they just accept $100.00 U.S and be grateful? This time it's to make rice up at the family farm in Samrong. I told the parents that they can do whatever they want with the money as long as Mach is in English school for the half day I believe and the other half in Khmer. I've just told her a few days ago I want her needs met and to tell her mother that $50.00/month is for Mach and the other 50 is for the family. I give $100.00U.S./month to cover any lost wages since Mach is supposed to be studying. I really like her Dad Pin. He's a driver/farmer apparently and seems to work the Krawlann/Samrong/Anlong Veng triangle. With all those kids is it possible to save money out of that $100.00U.S. I'm lost. I feel like cutting them off or reducing it to $50.00/month Please advise, Lenny G My conscience is very critical toward the Cambodian culture, which many people have been disputing. It's not bad when a society carries a good culture, which many Cambodians have been trying to pursuade others to believe. This is where i have problems with. It's very simple to think of it. Why have Cambodians destroying their own people with their own hands in their own country with or without the help of other nations? Why are the Cambodian poeple blaming their own illnesses on someone else and trying to make others believe them as victims? Many people think that Cambodians truely believe in buddha. Why did they kill and tortured millions of their own people during the Khmer Rogue era? Why are they still doing it as many people are trying to tell us here? The more we read about it, the more bad stuffs are coming out from our conclusion. In your case, that is a part of it. You think that you are helping some innocent people who are crying for help. Instead, you are being victimized by those people. That's Cambodia,. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org group. This is an unmoderated forum. Please refrain from using foul language. Thank you for your understanding. Peace among us and in Cambodia. To post to this group, send email to camdisc@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to camdisc-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/camdisc Learn more - http://www.cambodia.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
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Bang, here's my story, my family had collected monies to help a relative overthere, for that money he said he would buy a motorcycle, use it to buy and transport pigs to sell in the city so they 'll make profits...2 months later, they sent another letter, the motorcycle was broken, need money to fix it, month after that another letter came, he said in the letter he got in an accident, the motorcycle was totally lost. He got another idea, he asked to help him start a motorbike washer business, so we collected money for him again...a few months later one of us went their to visit and wanted to see how his business doing, guess what they saw... everybody was in melee, they told that the man in trouble because his wife was chasing after him with Kambett Paing Tor because he had been spent monies we sent him with young girls from one to another and his wife sell Nom Banh Chok everyday to feed the kids while this man had fun of his ownafter hearing this story we all just couldn't help ourselve laughing... Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Mon, 5/18/09, TSC timothych...@aol.com wrote: From: TSC timothych...@aol.com Subject: Re: My Cambodian foster daughter To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) - www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 3:08 PM Hi KC, When I told my relatives that I had to plant flowers and vegetations in my living room, family room and in the kitchen, they were laughing. Perhaps, thinking that I was lying to have them plant things in the same fashion. Inspecting their lands around their home, I knew I could do a lot of things with the kind of soil that my relatives have. I bought them seeds of all kinds of vegetable and gardening flower and asking them to grow them. Many month later, I went back to check to see if they had grown them. They told me that there was not much rain to grow anything. I told them that I had dug nice wells for them to use the water for such purposes. They told me that it was too hard to water the plants with well water. Meanwhile, they rather asked for more money to go shopping for things that they could grow themselves and had the nerve to complain that those things have gotten more expensive. On the other hand, most Vietnamese and Chinese are working real hard for their money. They work hard from collecting cans, fishing, growing fruits and vegetables, selling all kinds of products and they don’t expect any handouts. They would risk their life to come into Cambodia for such an opportunity to work the land. Many of these individuals, except the newcomers, were in the same Pol Pot regime and yet they have managed to rise from poverty quicker than most Cambodians. We need to change their mentality from being sluggish to energetic and stop depending on others to feed them forever. In this competitive world we cannot have both free time and money at the same time unless you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Cambodians can become self-sufficient like any other people in the world, but they must work. Maybe it’s time for the world, country of donors and politicians to stop “giving them fish, but teach them how to fish”… and let them fish or be starved. Somehow I feel that many of them are being spoiled! If you don’t work, you don’t eat! Thanks KC === On May 18, 2:20 pm, kourk_chh...@yahoo.com wrote: Bro Tim and all, Bang Sothon, I can't agree more. I've never been in Cambodia for 30 years, but keep hearing the same thing from different people returned from visiting relatives in Cambodia that their relatives there today are so lazy ( Sorry I said what they told me ), everything they have to buy from the market even vegies such as mint, peppers, lemon grass etc , for most of us here even we don't own a house we still be able to grow them in container or planter ...don't know why they are so spoiled? KC Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Mon, 5/18/09, TSC timothych...@aol.com wrote: From: TSC timothych...@aol.com Subject: Re: My Cambodian foster daughter To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 10:44 AM Hi Lenny, Thanks for your reply. Working doesn't mean that one must be employed. I have been to Kralanh and Samrong and I know that the people are destitute, there. But, many people have so much free time that they can turn your contributions into gold with a little effort, if they want to. However, many people chose to sit around and do nothing, not even planting some household vegetables to feed the family. They would rather go to the market to buy things that they can produce themselves with little effort. Some don't even clean their home, backyard and or front yard and they rather sit around with garbage all over the place. Many would rather spend time playing card and singing Karaoke in the nearby shop. That is what I call abuse. I used to do the same thing like you do by funding
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Tuesday, May 19, 2009 Ky Tech(VIETNAMESE FLUENT IN CAMBODIAN LANGUAGE), Hun Sen's lawyer and former controversial president of the CPP-controlled (Monkey) Bar Association Bar panel to begin review of SRP lawyer Monday, 18 May 2009 Written by Cheang Sokha The Phnom Penh Post THE Cambodian Bar Association will decide this week whether to suspend or disbar Sam Rainsy Party lawyer Kong Sam Onn, accused of violating the organisation's professional code of ethics, the Bar's president said Sunday. Kong Sam Onn, who is representing opposition lawmaker Mu Sochua in her defamation lawsuit against Prime Minister Hun Sen, was himself accused of defamation by one of Hun Sen's lawyers after making comments about the case at a press conference April 23. Bar Association President Chiv Song Hak said a special inspection team would convene today to investigate the allegations against Kong Sam Onn. At that point, the panel would send its report to the Bar and then the organisation would call its 19 council members to meet before making a decision on the case, which has been criticised by legal experts who say it is an example of government interference in the courts. When contacted Sunday, Kong Sam Onn said that the inspection team has not yet contacted him for questioning. But he argued that the complaint against him is groundless. In general, the inspection team is independent, but I am concerned about the individuals involved in the case, he said. According to the law, I committed no misconduct with the code of ethics and there is no specific accusation. Hun Sen's lawyer Ky Tech, a former president of the Bar who brought the complaint against Kong Sam Onn, said he was interested in the outcome of the investigation, adding that he expected the inspection panel to report its findings to the Bar council by Thursday. UN Passes Strong Resolution on Cambodia Human Rights Abuses Feb. 27, 1982 : UN Commission on Human Rights meeting in Geneva adopted a resolution condemning Vietnam's occupation of Cambodia as a violation of Cambodian human rights. The vote was 28 in favor, 8 against, and 5 abstentions. Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces from Cambodia. CAMBODIAN PEOPLE LIVE IN TEARS UNDER THE VIETNAMESE OCCUPATION. WHAT RIGHTS DO THESE VIETNAMESE INVADERS HAVE TO RUN CAMBODIA IN VIOLATION OF THE 10 UN RESOLUTION? Svay Sitha,(a Vietnamese ) Cambodia's secretary of state at the Council of Ministers.IT CONFIRMS BY THIS BOOK : on the behavior and character of a Vietnamese. BOOK GIAI PHONG by T Terzani. It describes a Vietnamese as THIEF, A LIAR, A KILLER, A DECEIVER , a sleeper .. Minister of Information and government spokesman Khieu Kanharith.(A VIETNAMESE ) (Photo by: SOVANN PHILONG) The HUN SEN'S VIETNAMESE Family Tree: One big happy family in Cambodia Hun Sen and his wife VIETNAMESE Bun Rany (seated) during the wedding of one of their children. http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/IC20Ae03.html20 Bury Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 21:33:01 +0700 Subject: CECT A380i Dual Sim Touchsceen Smart Phone - Absolutely Awesome From: yenegute.yard...@gmail.com To: milogr...@googlegroups.com; arena-siya...@googlegroups.com; slack-users...@googlegroups.com; nsein...@googlegroups.com; keralajollyfrie...@googlegroups.com; symfony...@googlegroups.com; toyotei...@googlegroups.com; ror...@googlegroups.com; j2ee_j...@googlegroups.com; logiademaso...@googlegroups.com; jra...@googlegroups.com; origami-kawak...@googlegroups.com; jquery-...@googlegroups.com; playgirlhu...@googlegroups.com; genealogia-mex...@googlegroups.com; mootools-us...@googlegroups.com; centrofo...@googlegroups.com; real-estate-india-onl...@googlegroups.com; sqlalch...@googlegroups.com; chromium-...@googlegroups.com; atividades-educacao-infantil-fu...@googlegroups.com; gatw...@googlegroups.com; sh...@googlegroups.com; microsoft-sistem-uz...@googlegroups.com; ligfi...@googlegroups.com; new-virtual-university-pakis...@googlegroups.com; mapinf...@googlegroups.com; comicsstr...@googlegroups.com; tvorno...@googlegroups.com; ar...@googlegroups.com; turkiye-sevd...@googlegroups.com; us_it_sa...@googlegroups.com; kad...@googlegroups.com; pylons-disc...@googlegroups.com; puppet-us...@googlegroups.com; ze...@googlegroups.com; ccnet-u...@googlegroups.com; testers-softw...@googlegroups.com; php-bra...@googlegroups.com; ddd55...@googlegroups.com; albah...@googlegroups.com; n...@googlegroups.com; ltgs...@googlegroups.com; cowork...@googlegroups.com; pb...@googlegroups.com; sharepoint-discuss...@googlegroups.com; abor...@googlegroups.com; the-freshwater-aquar...@googlegroups.com; sarma...@googlegroups.com; t...@googlegroups.com; kayooo...@googlegroups.com; hiring_for_...@googlegroups.com; camdisc@googlegroups.com; stoxd...@googlegroups.com; sk...@googlegroups.com;
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Hi KC, Thanks for sharing. It is good that you can laugh away your innocence. I have heard a case with a political leader who was given contributions to help dig water wells for certain villagers. Many donors thought he was a decent man. Recently, one of the donors went to check that particular village to look for the wells promised by this politician that the wells would be dug, but to her disappointment, the wells were nowhere to be found. She came back to the U.S and laughed at him, too. I am sure, however, that politician was lauging all the way to bis bank. :-) I have tons of story like this to tell. It could be written as historical books. Have you ever sent any more money after that? I hope not. Thanks again KC. On May 18, 6:46 pm, kourk_chh...@yahoo.com wrote: Bang, here's my story, my family had collected monies to help a relative overthere, for that money he said he would buy a motorcycle, use it to buy and transport pigs to sell in the city so they 'll make profits...2 months later, they sent another letter, the motorcycle was broken, need money to fix it, month after that another letter came, he said in the letter he got in an accident, the motorcycle was totally lost. He got another idea, he asked to help him start a motorbike washer business, so we collected money for him again...a few months later one of us went their to visit and wanted to see how his business doing, guess what they saw... everybody was in melee, they told that the man in trouble because his wife was chasing after him with Kambett Paing Tor because he had been spent monies we sent him with young girls from one to another and his wife sell Nom Banh Chok everyday to feed the kids while this man had fun of his ownafter hearing this story we all just couldn't help ourselve laughing... Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Mon, 5/18/09, TSC timothych...@aol.com wrote: From: TSC timothych...@aol.com Subject: Re: My Cambodian foster daughter To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org camdisc@googlegroups.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 3:08 PM Hi KC, When I told my relatives that I had to plant flowers and vegetations in my living room, family room and in the kitchen, they were laughing. Perhaps, thinking that I was lying to have them plant things in the same fashion. Inspecting their lands around their home, I knew I could do a lot of things with the kind of soil that my relatives have. I bought them seeds of all kinds of vegetable and gardening flower and asking them to grow them. Many month later, I went back to check to see if they had grown them. They told me that there was not much rain to grow anything. I told them that I had dug nice wells for them to use the water for such purposes. They told me that it was too hard to water the plants with well water. Meanwhile, they rather asked for more money to go shopping for things that they could grow themselves and had the nerve to complain that those things have gotten more expensive. On the other hand, most Vietnamese and Chinese are working real hard for their money. They work hard from collecting cans, fishing, growing fruits and vegetables, selling all kinds of products and they don’t expect any handouts. They would risk their life to come into Cambodia for such an opportunity to work the land. Many of these individuals, except the newcomers, were in the same Pol Pot regime and yet they have managed to rise from poverty quicker than most Cambodians. We need to change their mentality from being sluggish to energetic and stop depending on others to feed them forever. In this competitive world we cannot have both free time and money at the same time unless you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth. Cambodians can become self-sufficient like any other people in the world, but they must work. Maybe it’s time for the world, country of donors and politicians to stop “giving them fish, but teach them how to fish”… and let them fish or be starved. Somehow I feel that many of them are being spoiled! If you don’t work, you don’t eat! Thanks KC === On May 18, 2:20 pm, kourk_chh...@yahoo.com wrote: Bro Tim and all, Bang Sothon, I can't agree more. I've never been in Cambodia for 30 years, but keep hearing the same thing from different people returned from visiting relatives in Cambodia that their relatives there today are so lazy ( Sorry I said what they told me ), everything they have to buy from the market even vegies such as mint, peppers, lemon grass etc , for most of us here even we don't own a house we still be able to grow them in container or planter ...don't know why they are so spoiled? KC Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia ) --- On Mon, 5/18/09, TSC timothych...@aol.com wrote: From: TSC timothych...@aol.com Subject: Re: My Cambodian foster daughter To: Cambodia Discussion (CAMDISC) -www.cambodia.org