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New 2009 BMW 335d

2009-06-05 Thread nahanayan sintana
New 2009 BMW 335d
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Re: The Thais are stupid because they try to steal a stone while Vietnamese are smart to take land and resource from Cambodia

2009-06-05 Thread Khmer Young

Thailand and Vietnam have the same intention: to exploit and take
advantage over Cambodia. But these two countries have taken different
approaches since the emerged of their nation.

However, Cambodians should not be ultimately aggressive to them. Khmer
Rouge came up with the idea of pure Khmer and nationalism. Finally,
this policy was fallen into the enemy's plan.

Currently, Thailand comes out with public invading, but VN has been
secretly working inside our cells.

China and US has worked to balance the power in Cambodia, but they
cannot force Om Yintieng to comply with the rule of laws and practice
real democracy in Cambodia.

KY

On Jun 4, 7:47 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@netscape.net wrote:
 On Jun 3, 3:57 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote:

  It is just a small parcel Thailand is trying to chase. But Thailand
  has to be aware that Thai goods in Cambodia is replaced by Vietnamese
  goods. Thai embassy can be burned anytime if Thailand is still
  arrogant to Vietnam. Abhisit will set up a new strategy different from
  Thaksin by visiting Hanoi. Abhisit is aware that Vietnam is the boss
  of Cambodia.

 You perhaps have come from another country. In the last two decades,
 Thailand had poured millions and millions of dollars in economic term
 into Cambodia ranging from cement, a little toy, milk, cellphone all
 the way up to tourism. These are not small things. Vietnam could have
 just imagine for this kind of economy.

 Even today, Cambodia is still consuming goods from Thailand. Tourism
 is still coming from Thailand, not Vietnam.

 Oh! The clashes at Thailand border has been a year old now. They have
 been talking/ negotiating thus far. What is the result?
 Can you tell us why it is stalled?
 If you invade my property, you would hear from me immediately.
 If Thailand invade Cambodia, Cambodians would be silent for a moment
 or longer.
 Do you know why?
 Perhaps there is a relationship somewhere?
 Your guess is just as good as mine.

  While VN has created good friendship with Cambodia, and VN is so kind
  to give free for border markers to post in Cambodian land, Thailand
  made a mistake to encroach Preah Vihea.

 Thailand didn't make any mistakes. They have been doing this with
 intention.
 Remember! Thailand doesn't just rely on Cambodia. They lived without
 Cambodia for a long time. if they do, it's good for them. If they
 don't, they have something else.

 By the way, since Vietnam is good and Thailand is bad, WHAT IS
 CAMBODIA?
 Is it supposed to be a victim?

  VN is good friend with Cambodia means:
  1. Vietnamese people can live in Cambodia freely
  2. All goods from VN is acceptable for Cambodians (Cambodia has no way
  to produce for export to VN)
  3. Incumbent Cambodian government and their leaders have expressed
  gratitude towards VN twice a day

 \

 Thai poeple have no intention to live in Cambodia freely.
 Commerce between Vietnam and Cambodia is far smaller than the commerce
 between Thailand and Cambodia today.
 The gratitude toward Vietnam doesn't mean that Vietnamese makes more
 money with the economy in Cambodia. They may have influence on
 government. Yet, Thailand has been dealing with Cambodian economy for
 a very long time. Do you know how many cell phone companies in
 Cambodia are owned by Thai nationals?
 Do you know how much money Thai makes on tourism to Cambodia?
 My friend,
 The clashes at the border of Thai and Cambodia is not a mishap or
 silly. It's an intention.
 My view on this as it has always been. Cambodians ought to join
 Thailand as a nation of peace and transquality under the leadership of
 Thai monarchy so all can enjoy prosperity in life instead of
 destruction that we've seen in Cambodia in the last five decades.

 So what do yo think of that?
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Re: New 2009 BMW 335d (Action Required)

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Wireless Energy Could Signal the End of Power Cords

2009-06-05 Thread nahanayan sintana
Wireless Energy Could Signal the End of Power Cords
http://tech-guide.we.bs/Wireless-Energy-Could-Signal-the-End-of-Power-Cords.html

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RE: Wireless Energy Could Signal the End of Power Cords

2009-06-05 Thread ROSA MANSON

Could wireless energy end world poverty or just power cords?
 


Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 22:45:56 +0700
Subject: Wireless Energy Could Signal the End of Power Cords
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FW: Opposition Voices in Cambodian Politics: Prospects for the Future

2009-06-05 Thread Sam Rainsy Party of North America

 
 

  The National Democratic Institute
  And the International Republican Institute 
  Invite You to a Roundtable discussion 
  Opposition Voices in Cambodian Politics: 
  Prospects for the Future 
  with
  Sam Rainsy, President of the Sam Rainsy Party (SRP) 
  Member of the National Assembly 

  Kem Sokha, President and Founder of the Human Rights Party (HRP)
  Member of the National Assembly

  Please join the National Democratic Institute and the International 
Republican Institute for a discussion and analysis of recent political 
developments, trends in the Cambodian government’s policies, and future 
opportunities 
  for the country’s opposition parties.

  Time
  Wednesday, June 10 from 10:30 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.

  Location
  NDI Board Room
  2030 M Street, NW, Fifth Floor
  Washington, D.C.

  Sam Rainsy and Kem Sokha are leaders of Cambodia’s opposition parties, 
the SRP and the HRP, and seek to present an alternative to the current ruling 
party, the Cambodian People’s Party. The CPP has dominated Cambodian politics 
for decades, recently winning 90 out of 123 seats in the national legislature 
in 2008. 

  The SRP and the HRP formed an alliance called the Democratic Movement of 
Change to contest the provincial, district, and municipal elections held in May 
2009. The parties hope to strengthen their position in the 2012 national 
elections.   

  The party leaders are in Washington to meet with U.S. legislators and 
other members of the policy community to discuss the state of Cambodian 
politics, prospects for democratic political reform, and the defense of human 
rights. They are joined by Yem Ponhearith, Secretary General of the HRP.

  RSVP
  Christina Costello at ccoste...@ndi.org 
  or (202) 728-5677 

   
 
   

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Re: The Thais are stupid because they try to steal a stone while Vietnamese are smart to take land and resource from Cambodia

2009-06-05 Thread kangaroo

You describe Cambodian culture right on.
yet, you have not mentioned other parts of the Cambodian culture. Two
of them are the culture of corruption and impunity.
Please tell us all how they are in Cambodia?
Aren't they normal things to do in life in the Cambodian society
today?
Don't they look at corruption and impunity as routine norm of their
daily living?
Let's stick to the facts. We can see this clearly. We even see it on
those who have come to live in other countries. They stick to that
destructive culture. What else is new?


On Jun 4, 8:39 pm, rick ponheap...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I'm concerned about Cambodia being swallowed by Vietnam as much as you
 do, but being proud of Culture and ancient stone is not wrong. You see
 how crazy people are about their fashion designed clothes, but the
 Muslim people in the US or in Cambodia are still stick to their long
 old fashion, cheap looking smock. They are stick to their culture
 partly identified by what they wear. Culture translates into identity,
 and in turn , identity contribute to survival. Many Cambodians care
 less about identity being lost or transformed such- in culture,
 literature , and in other aspect.

 Regardless of genetic origin, If you see yourself being Vietnamese,
 you are never be destroyed by your own group, unless you challenge.
 These Cambodian leaders get along so well with the Vietnamese. So
 strengthen the rule of law means to destroy themselves.  In real life,
 these laws are for ordinary people to follow and not them.

 rick

 On Jun 3, 4:46 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote:



  Wednesday, June 3, 2009  The Thais are stupid because they try to steal a
  stone while Vietnamese are smart to take land and resource from
  Cambodiahttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2009/06/thais-are-stupid-be...

  I am younger Cambodian has never seen that culture is more important than to
  have the politicians who have political will for their nation. Current
  Cambodian leaders are planning to self-destruction because they are proud of
  Khmer culture and rocky-temples, but they have never concerned to project
  their long-sighted and strong-structured government leadership. Cambodian
  leaders have neglected to strengthen the rule of laws and support a real
  democratic system. On the other hand, incumbent Cambodian leaders don't know
  the enemy emerging from inside, especially the Vietnamese population that
  has been grown up rapidly in these decades.

  Le,

  Comparing Cambodia-Vietnam with Vietnam-China is exasperatingly diverting
  the real issue here. China has short shared-border line than Cambodia with
  Vietnam. Historically, China expelled Vietnamese tribe (or Kinh ethnic) to
  escape Southward. In that moment, Vietnamese ancestors had successfully
  expanded their land southward (like the name Vietnam or Viet and Nam itself
  literally translated its meaning as Southward Marching/Expanding). This
  Southward expanding finally could swallow Champa, Prey Norkor and Khmer
  Krom. And all Vietnamese leaders are expecting to annex Lao and Cambodia,
  the ideal Indochina once created by the French. Vietnam's ambition is not
  only there. Uncle Ho planned to expand communist ideology as well as expand
  his Real Estate Business throughout the South East Asia. Uncle Ho is a
  special member of world communist movement, and his operational location is
  in South East Asia. So I don't see that you have hate towards China. You
  should pay gratitude to China that you have today.

  From this brief history, you can see China has used propaganda and
  intimidation towards Vietnam rather than taking real action like Vietnam
  sent hundred thousands of troops to post in Cambodia for almost 10 years.
  China operated a so-called instruction war with Vietnam during Vietnam
  invaded Cambodia. It was just a pre-emptive war, not a containing war. But
  Vietnam's presence in Cambodia was intended to contain or plant its strong
  roots inside Cambodia land. At least, Vietnam planned to contain and
  maintain its status quo through two things:

     1. Populating the Vietnamese people inside Cambodia land through
     population strategy that Vietnam used to take over Champa, Prey Norkor 
  and
     Khmer Krom: planting the people, encroaching new plot to create village, 
  and
     lay down the village administration. Cambodia has undeniably been full of
     Vietnamese residents and Vietnamese imposter policemen in major areas in
     Cambodia.
     2. Creating Vietnam's shadow government (or general public called puppet
     government) that means the leaders are Cambodians but structures and
     powerful advisers are Vietnamese. Cambodia has no empirical study 
  focusing
     on this matter, but many Cambodian elites and figures have favorite 
  tendency
     towards Vietnam more than Cambodian people (in case of current opposition
     political party has been bullied/arrested/insulted while those
     elites/figures pay respect 

Re: The Thais are stupid because they try to steal a stone while Vietnamese are smart to take land and resource from Cambodia

2009-06-05 Thread kangaroo

No matter how you look at it, the question remains the same.
What are Cambodians doing about it?
Are they still fighting hating each others like we've seen in the last
five decades?
What are they going to do about their own nation so others can't
suppress Cambodia?
Are they going to fight each others like Sam Rainsy and many others
before him?
If Cambodians think so much of their own society and nation, they
ought not do what Sam Rainsy and many others before him have been
doing, which is to weaken their own country for their own power. So
other nations can take advantage of it.
Go and keep the pace Cambodia. This nation will be wiped out of world
map alot sooner. Let's make it a part of Thailand so the people of
Cambodia can enjoy peace and prosperity like Thais have.

On Jun 5, 1:40 am, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thailand and Vietnam have the same intention: to exploit and take
 advantage over Cambodia. But these two countries have taken different
 approaches since the emerged of their nation.

 However, Cambodians should not be ultimately aggressive to them. Khmer
 Rouge came up with the idea of pure Khmer and nationalism. Finally,
 this policy was fallen into the enemy's plan.

 Currently, Thailand comes out with public invading, but VN has been
 secretly working inside our cells.

 China and US has worked to balance the power in Cambodia, but they
 cannot force Om Yintieng to comply with the rule of laws and practice
 real democracy in Cambodia.

 KY

 On Jun 4, 7:47 am, kangaroo therabbitn...@netscape.net wrote:



  On Jun 3, 3:57 pm, Khmer Young khmeryo...@gmail.com wrote:

   It is just a small parcel Thailand is trying to chase. But Thailand
   has to be aware that Thai goods in Cambodia is replaced by Vietnamese
   goods. Thai embassy can be burned anytime if Thailand is still
   arrogant to Vietnam. Abhisit will set up a new strategy different from
   Thaksin by visiting Hanoi. Abhisit is aware that Vietnam is the boss
   of Cambodia.

  You perhaps have come from another country. In the last two decades,
  Thailand had poured millions and millions of dollars in economic term
  into Cambodia ranging from cement, a little toy, milk, cellphone all
  the way up to tourism. These are not small things. Vietnam could have
  just imagine for this kind of economy.

  Even today, Cambodia is still consuming goods from Thailand. Tourism
  is still coming from Thailand, not Vietnam.

  Oh! The clashes at Thailand border has been a year old now. They have
  been talking/ negotiating thus far. What is the result?
  Can you tell us why it is stalled?
  If you invade my property, you would hear from me immediately.
  If Thailand invade Cambodia, Cambodians would be silent for a moment
  or longer.
  Do you know why?
  Perhaps there is a relationship somewhere?
  Your guess is just as good as mine.

   While VN has created good friendship with Cambodia, and VN is so kind
   to give free for border markers to post in Cambodian land, Thailand
   made a mistake to encroach Preah Vihea.

  Thailand didn't make any mistakes. They have been doing this with
  intention.
  Remember! Thailand doesn't just rely on Cambodia. They lived without
  Cambodia for a long time. if they do, it's good for them. If they
  don't, they have something else.

  By the way, since Vietnam is good and Thailand is bad, WHAT IS
  CAMBODIA?
  Is it supposed to be a victim?

   VN is good friend with Cambodia means:
   1. Vietnamese people can live in Cambodia freely
   2. All goods from VN is acceptable for Cambodians (Cambodia has no way
   to produce for export to VN)
   3. Incumbent Cambodian government and their leaders have expressed
   gratitude towards VN twice a day

  \

  Thai poeple have no intention to live in Cambodia freely.
  Commerce between Vietnam and Cambodia is far smaller than the commerce
  between Thailand and Cambodia today.
  The gratitude toward Vietnam doesn't mean that Vietnamese makes more
  money with the economy in Cambodia. They may have influence on
  government. Yet, Thailand has been dealing with Cambodian economy for
  a very long time. Do you know how many cell phone companies in
  Cambodia are owned by Thai nationals?
  Do you know how much money Thai makes on tourism to Cambodia?
  My friend,
  The clashes at the border of Thai and Cambodia is not a mishap or
  silly. It's an intention.
  My view on this as it has always been. Cambodians ought to join
  Thailand as a nation of peace and transquality under the leadership of
  Thai monarchy so all can enjoy prosperity in life instead of
  destruction that we've seen in Cambodia in the last five decades.

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Re: Fw: Mr. Sam Rainsy's Visit Long Beach, California on May 30, 2009

2009-06-05 Thread kangaroo

No you are wrong. Sam Rainsy is not the best choice.
Look at CPP experience and compare to Sam Rainsy experience. Who have
the most?
Now, look at the impunity and division of Sam  Rainsy and CPP. Are
they the same?
My friend,
There is no comparison between Sam Rainsy and Hun Sen and CPP. Sam
Rainsy can put his degrees in the closet. He is dividing his country
today. What is he going to do when he has the power?
Therefore, Sam Rainsy is no good for Cambodia. He maybe a great person
for Cambodian Americans. Yet, Cambodian Americans do not live in
Cambodia, nor they do anything for Cambodia. They just say:Go
Cambodia, Go Sam Rainsy from a distance.

My friend,
Can you tell me good things about Sam Rainsy?
Please tell us what you think he is doing to make Cambodia better.
Please tell us whether he has the intention to unify his nation.
Please tell us how he plan to do it if he wants to unify his country.
If he wants to unify his country, why he oppose anything to his own
people in his own country?
If Sam Rainsy really thinking about strengthening his nation, why
can't he work with his own people instead of calling fouls from a
distance?
CPP may be bad. Sam Rainsy government would be worse. Don't hide him
behind democracy. Democracy is his tool being used to cover Sam Rainsy
ugly truth, which is of his own power. Cambodians shall not accept
anyone who call his own people something that they are not so he could
get the vote. Sam Rainsy has done that. As you have seen already,
there is no way that I support this man and his party.
Beside, the situation with the lady against the prime minister is
another sign of weakness. I bet you that her intention is nothing but
trying to win her own ground. Remember! Hun Sen didn't name anyone.
That lady did. Let this case play in court. However, we only point out
that this kind of activity is not politic. We call it activism. We do
it in desperate to get any attention. Activists are not good leaders.
They are dividers. They try to get people to their side. They never
have the intention to get together for the sake of the society.
So in conclusion, Sam Rainsy and his party is not better than anyone
in Cambodia.

On Jun 4, 4:23 pm, sacravatoons sacravato...@optusnet.com.au
wrote:
 Sam Rainsy is the best choice for Cambodia  its People right now to save
 from
  Yuon-Robaney-Kham  from Hanoi.
 .Even I would go the the grave,I never support CPP  Tuol Krasaing Group
 ! I can bet my life for you !
 I never ask anything from Rainsy but I'll support him as long as he has a
 real  HEART  for Cambodia  its People.
 Maybe he's not Perfect but he's a million times better than Hun Xen.
 Who's else want Hun Xen ? excepted his Hyena Groups !!!

 Cheers,
 Ung Bunheang



  If you are a Khmer Patriot, stop supporting Sam Rainsy. It doesn't
  mean that you should support CPP. It just means that you should not
  support Sam Rainsy.

  On Jun 3, 10:00 pm, sacravatoons sacravato...@optusnet.com.au
  wrote:
  I can answer that for U.
  I was sometime at the Fund raising 's Rainsy .I had seen SRP raised money
  not more than $5,000.00 Aud each function.
  This amount of mony even is far less than CPP  Tuol Krasaing group spend
  its stealing money at the parlors,Beer Gardens,Casinos, everynight .

  Cheers,
  Ung Bunheang
  note: I'm not SRP's member but I always support any Khmer-Patriots group
  
  party.

   How much money did he make?

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Promises and Reality 
In  theory, SRP and other opposition parties offer great campaign promises 
for  Cambodia. Democracy, justice, freedom, social services etc… are very 
good and  pleasant for Cambodians to hear. But, practically, can SRP and other 
parties  with its current intact infrastructures run the country without 
the support from  the CPP? Can they put together a group of competent and 
honest leaders to run  Cambodia? 
Perhaps, my unbiased answers to these questions will not sit well with  the 
diehard supporters of the oppositions or the CPP, but I know that without  
the support of the current members and leaders of the CPP no opposition 
party  will be able to run Cambodia. The CPP are better equipped and 
unfortunately  all opposition parties lack human resources, intellectual 
resources, and 
 financial resources, etc...Organizational  structures of these parties are 
not even strong enough to run their own party  effectively.  Political 
structures  of SRP combined with any other opposition party are still very 
week. 
Division  within each party exists and morality among most party leaders at 
all levels is  still unacceptable. Many of them are worse than or equal to 
some CPP members.  
With  current political mood, the way all politicians behave and their 
personal  interests at stake; the CPP will never support the oppositions nor 
relinquish  its power. So the dream that one day the oppositions will run the 
country within  the next few decades is illogical. 
What  do we need to do to make Cambodia a better place for Cambodians? 
Every  Cambodian, (especially members of political parties,) needs to stop 
being 
a  yes-man and demand that their politicians be accountable for their works 
and  promises.  The opposition leaders  must clean up their act, stop their 
rethorics and become better than the  CPP leaders so that their voices are 
respectable and taken seriously by the  ruling party.  The CPP  leaders, on 
the other hand, need to keep their mind open for  reasonable alternative 
proposals. 
However, with the understanding that both, the CPP and the non-CPP, need  
each other to survive on; one may want to reconsider their expectation that 
much  changes will be done in the near future. Especially, when Cambodia is 
under  heavy influences of other countries. 
Sathonne  Chhim 
New York 
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Re: Promises and Reality- Can the oppositions run Cambodia?

2009-06-05 Thread TimothyChhim
Correction ... week=weak
 
 
In a message dated 6/5/2009 5:21:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
timothych...@aol.com writes:

   
 
Promises and Reality 
In  theory, SRP and other opposition parties offer great campaign promises 
for  Cambodia. Democracy, justice, freedom, social services etc… are very 
good and  pleasant for Cambodians to hear. But, practically, can SRP and other 
parties  with its current intact infrastructures run the country without 
the support  from the CPP? Can they put together a group of competent and 
honest leaders to  run Cambodia? 
Perhaps, my unbiased answers to these questions will not sit well with  the 
diehard supporters of the oppositions or the CPP, but I know that without  
the support of the current members and leaders of the CPP no opposition 
party  will be able to run Cambodia. The CPP are better equipped and  
unfortunately all opposition parties lack human resources, intellectual  
resources, 
and financial resources, etc...Organizational structures of these parties are 
not even strong enough  to run their own party effectively.   Political 
structures of SRP combined with any other opposition party  are still very 
weak. 
Division within each party  exists and morality among most party leaders at 
all levels is still  unacceptable. Many of them are worse than or equal to 
some CPP members.   
With  current political mood, the way all politicians behave and their 
personal  interests at stake; the CPP will never support the oppositions nor 
relinquish  its power. So the dream that one day the oppositions will run the 
country  within the next few decades is illogical. 
What do we need to do to make Cambodia a better place for Cambodians?  
Every Cambodian, (especially members of political parties,) needs to stop  
being 
a yes-man and demand that their politicians be accountable for their  works 
and promises.  The  opposition leaders must clean up their act, stop their 
rethorics and  become better than the CPP leaders so that their voices are 
respectable and  taken seriously by the ruling party.  The CPP leaders, on 
the other  hand, need to keep their mind open for reasonable alternative  
proposals. 
However, with the understanding that both, the CPP and the non-CPP,  need 
each other to survive on; one may want to reconsider their expectation  that 
much changes will be done in the near future. Especially, when Cambodia  is 
under heavy influences of other countries. 
Sathonne  Chhim 
New  York 
Timothychhim.blogspot.com




 

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Re: Fw: Mr. Sam Rainsy's Visit Long Beach, California on May 30, 2009

2009-06-05 Thread sacravatoons


Kangarooo, U have so many questions (?)
my answer  question back to U :

Why does a reporter from ABC Australia,Eric Campbell call Srok Khmer under 
Hun Xen's ruling : SCAMBODIA ?
and also he called Sok Kong who'is the King of Angkor ?

Why  does the Global Witness say :  CAMBODIA for Sale .

Why does Thai Foreign Affairs Minister Mr Kasit Piromya call  Hun Xen :  
Neak Leng .

Why does  Lee Kwan Yew,the ex PM of Singapore, describe Hun Xen as utterly 
merciless and ruthless,without humane feelings.

Cheers,
Ung Bunheang




 No you are wrong. Sam Rainsy is not the best choice.
 Look at CPP experience and compare to Sam Rainsy experience. Who have
 the most?
 Now, look at the impunity and division of Sam  Rainsy and CPP. Are
 they the same?
 My friend,
 There is no comparison between Sam Rainsy and Hun Sen and CPP. Sam
 Rainsy can put his degrees in the closet. He is dividing his country
 today. What is he going to do when he has the power?
 Therefore, Sam Rainsy is no good for Cambodia. He maybe a great person
 for Cambodian Americans. Yet, Cambodian Americans do not live in
 Cambodia, nor they do anything for Cambodia. They just say:Go
 Cambodia, Go Sam Rainsy from a distance.

 My friend,
 Can you tell me good things about Sam Rainsy?
 Please tell us what you think he is doing to make Cambodia better.
 Please tell us whether he has the intention to unify his nation.
 Please tell us how he plan to do it if he wants to unify his country.
 If he wants to unify his country, why he oppose anything to his own
 people in his own country?
 If Sam Rainsy really thinking about strengthening his nation, why
 can't he work with his own people instead of calling fouls from a
 distance?
 CPP may be bad. Sam Rainsy government would be worse. Don't hide him
 behind democracy. Democracy is his tool being used to cover Sam Rainsy
 ugly truth, which is of his own power. Cambodians shall not accept
 anyone who call his own people something that they are not so he could
 get the vote. Sam Rainsy has done that. As you have seen already,
 there is no way that I support this man and his party.
 Beside, the situation with the lady against the prime minister is
 another sign of weakness. I bet you that her intention is nothing but
 trying to win her own ground. Remember! Hun Sen didn't name anyone.
 That lady did. Let this case play in court. However, we only point out
 that this kind of activity is not politic. We call it activism. We do
 it in desperate to get any attention. Activists are not good leaders.
 They are dividers. They try to get people to their side. They never
 have the intention to get together for the sake of the society.
 So in conclusion, Sam Rainsy and his party is not better than anyone
 in Cambodia.

 On Jun 4, 4:23 pm, sacravatoons sacravato...@optusnet.com.au
 wrote:
 Sam Rainsy is the best choice for Cambodia  its People right now to save
 from
  Yuon-Robaney-Kham  from Hanoi.
 .Even I would go the the grave,I never support CPP  Tuol Krasaing 
 Group
 ! I can bet my life for you !
 I never ask anything from Rainsy but I'll support him as long as he has a
 real  HEART  for Cambodia  its People.
 Maybe he's not Perfect but he's a million times better than Hun Xen.
 Who's else want Hun Xen ? excepted his Hyena Groups !!!

 Cheers,
 Ung Bunheang



  If you are a Khmer Patriot, stop supporting Sam Rainsy. It doesn't
  mean that you should support CPP. It just means that you should not
  support Sam Rainsy.

  On Jun 3, 10:00 pm, sacravatoons sacravato...@optusnet.com.au
  wrote:
  I can answer that for U.
  I was sometime at the Fund raising 's Rainsy .I had seen SRP raised 
  money
  not more than $5,000.00 Aud each function.
  This amount of mony even is far less than CPP  Tuol Krasaing group 
  spend
  its stealing money at the parlors,Beer Gardens,Casinos, everynight .

  Cheers,
  Ung Bunheang
  note: I'm not SRP's member but I always support any Khmer-Patriots 
  group
  
  party.

   How much money did he make?

   On Jun 3, 3:46 am, Sam Rainsy Party of North America
   srp...@comcast.net wrote:
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   Rainsy of North America

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Re: Fw: Mr. Sam Rainsy's Visit Long Beach, California on May 30, 2009

2009-06-05 Thread Khoar Chev
Bang Heang, dod you remember Thavary this morning asked you to bring her one 
Kangaroo fi you visit the US? This one that what she meant. I guset she want to 
bar-b-que
 
KC
Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia )

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, sacravatoons sacravato...@optusnet.com.au wrote:


From: sacravatoons sacravato...@optusnet.com.au
Subject: Re: Fw: Mr. Sam Rainsy's Visit Long Beach, California on May 30, 2009
To: camdisc@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 3:38 PM




Kangarooo, U have so many questions (?)
my answer  question back to U :

Why does a reporter from ABC Australia,Eric Campbell call Srok Khmer under 
Hun Xen's ruling : SCAMBODIA ?
and also he called Sok Kong who'is the King of Angkor ?

Why  does the Global Witness say :  CAMBODIA for Sale .

Why does Thai Foreign Affairs Minister Mr Kasit Piromya call  Hun Xen :  
Neak Leng .

Why does  Lee Kwan Yew,the ex PM of Singapore, describe Hun Xen as utterly 
merciless and ruthless,without humane feelings.

Cheers,
Ung Bunheang




 No you are wrong. Sam Rainsy is not the best choice.
 Look at CPP experience and compare to Sam Rainsy experience. Who have
 the most?
 Now, look at the impunity and division of Sam  Rainsy and CPP. Are
 they the same?
 My friend,
 There is no comparison between Sam Rainsy and Hun Sen and CPP. Sam
 Rainsy can put his degrees in the closet. He is dividing his country
 today. What is he going to do when he has the power?
 Therefore, Sam Rainsy is no good for Cambodia. He maybe a great person
 for Cambodian Americans. Yet, Cambodian Americans do not live in
 Cambodia, nor they do anything for Cambodia. They just say:Go
 Cambodia, Go Sam Rainsy from a distance.

 My friend,
 Can you tell me good things about Sam Rainsy?
 Please tell us what you think he is doing to make Cambodia better.
 Please tell us whether he has the intention to unify his nation.
 Please tell us how he plan to do it if he wants to unify his country.
 If he wants to unify his country, why he oppose anything to his own
 people in his own country?
 If Sam Rainsy really thinking about strengthening his nation, why
 can't he work with his own people instead of calling fouls from a
 distance?
 CPP may be bad. Sam Rainsy government would be worse. Don't hide him
 behind democracy. Democracy is his tool being used to cover Sam Rainsy
 ugly truth, which is of his own power. Cambodians shall not accept
 anyone who call his own people something that they are not so he could
 get the vote. Sam Rainsy has done that. As you have seen already,
 there is no way that I support this man and his party.
 Beside, the situation with the lady against the prime minister is
 another sign of weakness. I bet you that her intention is nothing but
 trying to win her own ground. Remember! Hun Sen didn't name anyone.
 That lady did. Let this case play in court. However, we only point out
 that this kind of activity is not politic. We call it activism. We do
 it in desperate to get any attention. Activists are not good leaders.
 They are dividers. They try to get people to their side. They never
 have the intention to get together for the sake of the society.
 So in conclusion, Sam Rainsy and his party is not better than anyone
 in Cambodia.

 On Jun 4, 4:23 pm, sacravatoons sacravato...@optusnet.com.au
 wrote:
 Sam Rainsy is the best choice for Cambodia  its People right now to save
 from
  Yuon-Robaney-Kham  from Hanoi.
 .Even I would go the the grave,I never support CPP  Tuol Krasaing 
 Group
 ! I can bet my life for you !
 I never ask anything from Rainsy but I'll support him as long as he has a
 real  HEART  for Cambodia  its People.
 Maybe he's not Perfect but he's a million times better than Hun Xen.
 Who's else want Hun Xen ? excepted his Hyena Groups !!!

 Cheers,
 Ung Bunheang



  If you are a Khmer Patriot, stop supporting Sam Rainsy. It doesn't
  mean that you should support CPP. It just means that you should not
  support Sam Rainsy.

  On Jun 3, 10:00 pm, sacravatoons sacravato...@optusnet.com.au
  wrote:
  I can answer that for U.
  I was sometime at the Fund raising 's Rainsy .I had seen SRP raised 
  money
  not more than $5,000.00 Aud each function.
  This amount of mony even is far less than CPP  Tuol Krasaing group 
  spend
  its stealing money at the parlors,Beer Gardens,Casinos, everynight .

  Cheers,
  Ung Bunheang
  note: I'm not SRP's member but I always support any Khmer-Patriots 
  group
  
  party.

   How much money did he make?

   On Jun 3, 3:46 am, Sam Rainsy Party of North America
   srp...@comcast.net wrote:
   Mr. Sam Rainsy's Visit Long Beach, California on May 30, 2009 @ Sam
   Rainsy of North America

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Re: Promises and Reality- Can the oppositions run Cambodia?

2009-06-05 Thread sacravatoons

  My views on your comment :
  As long as Yuon-Hanoi rules Cambodia,no way CPP  SRP can live 
together.unleast SRP adopted policy to live as FUNCINPEC  NRP.
  CPP do not need any party to survive  rule Cambodia but its master Hanoi.

  NEC is a sole Tool of CPP to showing the world of CAMBODIA DEMOCRACY.

  Hanoi will not need CPP when the Indochinese Federation is accomplished.See 
Champa  Kampuchea Krom.
  Hanoi do not need Cham party and Khmer Kampuchea Krom party to support its 
ruling.
  If Khmer-People do not wake up themselvesThe dream of Ho Chiminh will 
come true for sure.
  Ladies  Gentlemen the Vietnamezation is on the way.

  Cheers,
  Ung Bunheang





  Promises and Reality

  In theory, SRP and other opposition parties offer great campaign promises for 
Cambodia. Democracy, justice, freedom, social services etc… are very good and 
pleasant for Cambodians to hear. But, practically, can SRP and other parties 
with its current intact infrastructures run the country without the support 
from the CPP? Can they put together a group of competent and honest leaders to 
run Cambodia?

  Perhaps, my unbiased answers to these questions will not sit well with the 
diehard supporters of the oppositions or the CPP, but I know that without the 
support of the current members and leaders of the CPP no opposition party will 
be able to run Cambodia. The CPP are better equipped and unfortunately all 
opposition parties lack human resources, intellectual resources, and financial 
resources, etc...Organizational structures of these parties are not even strong 
enough to run their own party effectively.  Political structures of SRP 
combined with any other opposition party are still very week. Division within 
each party exists and morality among most party leaders at all level is still 
unacceptable. Many of them are worse than or equal to some CPP members. 

  With current political mood, the way all politicians behave and their 
personal interests at stake; the CPP will never support the oppositions nor 
relinquish its power. So the dream that one day the oppositions will run the 
country within the next few decades is illogical.

  What do we need to do to make Cambodia a better place for Cambodians? Every 
Cambodian, (especially members of political parties,) needs to stop being a 
yes-man and demand that their politicians be accountable for their works and 
promises.  The opposition leaders must clean up their act, stop their rethorics 
and become better than the CPP leaders so that their voices are respectable and 
taken seriously by the ruling party.  The CPP leaders, on the other hand, need 
to keep their mind open for reasonable alternative proposals.

   

  However, with the understanding that both, the CPP and the non-CPP, need each 
other to survive on; one may want to reconsider their expectation that much 
changes will be done in the near future. Especially, when Cambodia is under 
heavy influences of other countries.



  Sathonne Chhim

  New York

  Timothychhim.blogspot.com



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Re: Fw: Mr. Sam Rainsy's Visit Long Beach, California on May 30, 2009

2009-06-05 Thread sacravatoons

  Oh Oh,
  She cannot BBQcuz she's good Buddhist.
  Cheers,
  Ung Bun Heang

Bang Heang, dod you remember Thavary this morning asked you to bring 
her one Kangaroo fi you visit the US? This one that what she meant. I guset she 
want to bar-b-que

KC
Khoar Chev ( Made in Cambodia )

--- On Fri, 6/5/09, sacravatoons sacravato...@optusnet.com.au wrote:


  From: sacravatoons sacravato...@optusnet.com.au
  Subject: Re: Fw: Mr. Sam Rainsy's Visit Long Beach, California on May 
30, 2009
  To: camdisc@googlegroups.com
  Date: Friday, June 5, 2009, 3:38 PM




  Kangarooo, U have so many questions (?)
  my answer  question back to U :

  Why does a reporter from ABC Australia,Eric Campbell call Srok Khmer 
under 
  Hun Xen's ruling : SCAMBODIA ?
  and also he called Sok Kong who'is the King of Angkor ?

  Why  does the Global Witness say :  CAMBODIA for Sale .

  Why does Thai Foreign Affairs Minister Mr Kasit Piromya call  Hun Xen 
:  
  Neak Leng .

  Why does  Lee Kwan Yew,the ex PM of Singapore, describe Hun Xen as 
utterly 
  merciless and ruthless,without humane feelings.

  Cheers,
  Ung Bunheang



  
   No you are wrong. Sam Rainsy is not the best choice.
   Look at CPP experience and compare to Sam Rainsy experience. Who 
have
   the most?
   Now, look at the impunity and division of Sam  Rainsy and CPP. Are
   they the same?
   My friend,
   There is no comparison between Sam Rainsy and Hun Sen and CPP. Sam
   Rainsy can put his degrees in the closet. He is dividing his country
   today. What is he going to do when he has the power?
   Therefore, Sam Rainsy is no good for Cambodia. He maybe a great 
person
   for Cambodian Americans. Yet, Cambodian Americans do not live in
   Cambodia, nor they do anything for Cambodia. They just say:Go
   Cambodia, Go Sam Rainsy from a distance.
  
   My friend,
   Can you tell me good things about Sam Rainsy?
   Please tell us what you think he is doing to make Cambodia better.
   Please tell us whether he has the intention to unify his nation.
   Please tell us how he plan to do it if he wants to unify his 
country.
   If he wants to unify his country, why he oppose anything to his own
   people in his own country?
   If Sam Rainsy really thinking about strengthening his nation, why
   can't he work with his own people instead of calling fouls from a
   distance?
   CPP may be bad. Sam Rainsy government would be worse. Don't hide him
   behind democracy. Democracy is his tool being used to cover Sam 
Rainsy
   ugly truth, which is of his own power. Cambodians shall not accept
   anyone who call his own people something that they are not so he 
could
   get the vote. Sam Rainsy has done that. As you have seen already,
   there is no way that I support this man and his party.
   Beside, the situation with the lady against the prime minister is
   another sign of weakness. I bet you that her intention is nothing 
but
   trying to win her own ground. Remember! Hun Sen didn't name anyone.
   That lady did. Let this case play in court. However, we only point 
out
   that this kind of activity is not politic. We call it activism. We 
do
   it in desperate to get any attention. Activists are not good 
leaders.
   They are dividers. They try to get people to their side. They never
   have the intention to get together for the sake of the society.
   So in conclusion, Sam Rainsy and his party is not better than anyone
   in Cambodia.
  
   On Jun 4, 4:23 pm, sacravatoons sacravato...@optusnet.com.au
   wrote:
   Sam Rainsy is the best choice for Cambodia  its People right now 
to save
   from
Yuon-Robaney-Kham  from Hanoi.
   .Even I would go the the grave,I never support CPP  Tuol 
Krasaing 
   Group
   ! I can bet my life for you !
   I never ask anything from Rainsy but I'll support him as long as 
he has a
   real  HEART  for Cambodia  its People.
   Maybe he's not Perfect but he's a million times better than Hun 
Xen.
   Who's else want Hun Xen ? excepted his Hyena Groups !!!
  
   Cheers,
   Ung Bunheang
  
  
  
If you are a Khmer Patriot, stop supporting Sam Rainsy. It 
doesn't
mean that you should support CPP. It just means that you should 
not
support Sam Rainsy.
  
On Jun 3, 10:00 pm, sacravatoons sacravato...@optusnet.com.au
wrote:
I can 

Re: Promises and Reality- Can the oppositions run Cambodia?

2009-06-05 Thread TimothyChhim
Thanks Lok Bun Heang,
 
Without SRP and other oppositions, the CPP would be viewed by the  world as 
an autocratic regime. That's why the CPP is using NEC and, most of all,  
its multi-level infrastructures to make sure that it gets the majority of 
votes.  The strength of the CPP is its infrastructures and financial supports 
at 
 different levels. Whether it is fair or not, the CPP has so far managed to 
 control its bases very tightly. Results can be adjusted to meet their need 
to  control the governments. 
 
You are right, the CPP does not need RSP to run Cambodia. It can do it  
alone but it would rather have opposition party(s) to legitimize its  rulings. 
It will do everything to keep it that way. If Cambodia becomes  Champa, 
history will be written that Cambodia was a democratic country during  these 
periods and the majority of Khmer are to blame for voting for such a  
government.
 
Hanoi needs the CPP, the CPP need the oppositions, and legally speaking the 
 oppositions have to work with the CPP. Whether we like it or not Chea Sim 
is Ram  Rainsy's president in the assembly. They may fights like cats and 
dogs to win  popular supports and to keep their job, and at the end of the day 
they are  (supposed to be) colleague. 
 
When will Cambodians wake up? Right now most Cambodians are happy with  
where they are and how the situation is. They are fed up with the lies and  
cheats of many politicians. I don't know if we can blame them or those  
politicians who have so far used their pains and sufferings to seek higher  
positions to serve their personal interests. 
 
Regards,
 
=
 
In a message dated 6/5/2009 6:54:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
sacravato...@optusnet.com.au writes:

 

My views on your comment :
As long as Yuon-Hanoi rules Cambodia,no way CPP  SRP can live  
together.unleast SRP adopted policy to live as FUNCINPEC   NRP.
CPP do not need any party to survive  rule Cambodia but its master  Hanoi.
 
NEC is a sole Tool of CPP to showing the world of  CAMBODIA DEMOCRACY.
 
Hanoi will not need CPP when the Indochinese Federation is  
accomplished.See Champa  Kampuchea Krom.
Hanoi do not need Cham party and Khmer Kampuchea Krom party to support  its 
ruling.
If Khmer-People do not wake up themselvesThe dream of Ho Chiminh  will 
come true for sure.
Ladies  Gentlemen the Vietnamezation is on the way.
 
Cheers,
Ung Bunheang


Promises and Reality 
In  theory, SRP and other opposition parties offer great campaign promises 
for  Cambodia. Democracy, justice, freedom, social services etc… are very 
good  and pleasant for Cambodians to hear. But, practically, can SRP and other 
 parties with its current intact infrastructures run the country without 
the  support from the CPP? Can they put together a group of competent and 
honest  leaders to run Cambodia? 
Perhaps, my unbiased answers to these questions will not sit well  with the 
diehard supporters of the oppositions or the CPP, but I know that  without 
the support of the current members and leaders of the CPP no  opposition 
party will be able to run Cambodia. The CPP are better  equipped and 
unfortunately all opposition parties lack human resources,  intellectual 
resources, 
and financial resources, etc...Organizational structures of these parties are 
not even  strong enough to run their own party effectively.  Political 
structures of SRP combined  with any other opposition party are still very 
week. 
Division within each  party exists and morality among most party leaders at 
all level is still  unacceptable. Many of them are worse than or equal to 
some CPP members.   
With current political mood, the way all politicians behave and their  
personal interests at stake; the CPP will never support the oppositions nor  
relinquish its power. So the dream that one day the oppositions will run the  
country within the next few decades is illogical. 
What do we need to do to make Cambodia a better place for Cambodians?  
Every Cambodian, (especially members of political parties,) needs to stop  
being 
a yes-man and demand that their politicians be accountable for their  works 
and promises.  The  opposition leaders must clean up their act, stop their 
rethorics and  become better than the CPP leaders so that their voices are 
respectable and  taken seriously by the ruling party.  The CPP leaders, on 
the other  hand, need to keep their mind open for reasonable alternative  
proposals. 
However, with the understanding that both, the CPP and the non-CPP,  need 
each other to survive on; one may want to reconsider their expectation  that 
much changes will be done in the near future. Especially, when Cambodia  is 
under heavy influences of other countries. 
Sathonne  Chhim 
New  York 
Timothychhim.blogspot.com

 

We found the real '_Hotel  California_ 
(http://www.whereitsat.com/#/music/lyrical-landmarks/258/41.19651/-110.832818/2/The-Eagles-Hotel-California?ncid=
emlcntnew0006) 

Venerable Tim Sakhorn will be a Khmer Krom Hero as I predicted

2009-06-05 Thread Khmer Young
Friday, June 5, 2009  Venerable Tim Sakhorn will be a Khmer Krom Hero as I
predictedhttp://cambodianbrightfuture.blogspot.com/2009/06/venerable-tim-sakhorn-will-be-khmer.html

Finally, Venerable Tim Sokhorn will become another hero of KKK people though
he is lost, alive, died or re-ordained. Previous heroes of KKK people are
Son Kuy, Son Nguc Tanh...and Venerable Tim Sakhorn will become their
modern-contemporary hero. Stated in July 20, 2007

Friday, June 05, 2009
Khmer Krom hero rises from the
deltahttp://ki-media.blogspot.com/2009/06/khmer-krom-hero-rises-from-delta.html

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_76xUgRgjZYM/SikmmAaDwsI/Lng/HbEhFOtTifY/s1600-h/Tim+Sakhorn+as+civilian+%28Asia+Times%29.gifJun
6, 2009
By Craig Guthrie
Asia Times (Hong Kong)

BANGKOK - As he secretly slipped away from his mother's funeral, donned his
familiar saffron robes and fled by motorbike along a potholed road from
southeast Cambodia into neighboring Thailand, Tim Sakhorn's status as a
Khmer Krom hero was assured. On Thursday, as his ethnic group marked the
60th anniversary of the loss of its lands, the little-known movement for
self-determination and improved human rights was desperately in need of one.

The ongoing saga of Sakhorn, a 41-year-old Buddhist monk who in 2007 was
defrocked, deported and detained by Vietnamese authorities for alleged
separatist activities, has brought the cause of the Khmer Krom - a
million-strong community of ethnic Khmer who live in parts of Vietnam's
Mekong Delta that was once part of an ancient Cambodian empire - some
much-needed global attention.

Khmer Krom leaders say the Vietnamese government has suppressed their
religious and cultural identity for decades. They say the government of
Cambodia, their motherland, has disowned them for political reasons.
Sakhorn's story, they believe, is indicative of both.

Soft spoken and diminutive, Sakhorn is an unlikely successor to Son Kuy, the
swashbuckling Khmer Krom soldier who led guerilla warfare against imperial
Vietnam in the early 19th century before being beheaded at the royal court
at Hue. Sakhorn says he is no hero. He told Asia Times Online at a hidden
location in Bangkok on May 25 that he is merely happy his story can show the
world that the oppression is real.

The pictures of both men adorned banners as Khmer Krom marched in the
streets of Phnom Penh on Thursday to commemorate colonial France's June 4,
1949, ceding of what was then known as western Cochinchina to Vietnam. The
demonstration was kept low key - an earlier incarnation of the ruling
Cambodian People's Party (CPP) was put in place by Hanoi in 1979, and its
party leaders remain sensitive to any events critical of its important ally.

Venerable Tim Sakhorn, is, by definition and through the examples of other
great heroes in history, a true Cambodian hero, Washington-based economist
and historian Naranhkiri Tith said by e-mail. He said Sakhorn deserves
appreciation for trying to defend Cambodia and her people against an
unrelenting 'Vietnamization' of Cambodia.

Alien in your homeland
Khmer Krom leaders say the Vietnamese government targets their ethnic group
in three ways: education, culture and economy. Specifically, the Vietnamese
government limits the teaching of the Khmer language, restricts the practice
of Theravada Buddhism, and deprives the Khmer Krom of their lands, said
Thach N Thach, the president of the Khmer Krom Federation.

The majority of Vietnam's Buddhists practice Mahayana Buddhism as opposed to
the Khmer Krom's Theravada Buddhism. Hanoi's Minister of Culture and
Information said in 2007 that Theravada enforces backward customs and
habits that limit the group's development. The communist nation has
restrictions on religious practices and all Theravada wats (temples) are
overseen by the government-controlled Vietnamese Buddhist Sangha.

Perpetuating their life on the margins of Vietnamese society, large number
of ethnic-Khmer students drop out of school at an early age. Many Khmer
families are too poor to take their children out of wage labor. If they can,
their children are only taught in Vietnamese. Khmer classes remain only
available in small wats that girls, by custom, cannot attend.

When I started first grade in public school I had to learn everything in
Vietnamese, but I couldn't speak Vietnamese at all. The Vietnamese students,
even teachers, made fun of us [Khmer Krom] and made us feel that we were not
welcome, said Serey Chau, president of the Khmer Krom Federation's Youth
Council.

In March 2008, the state-run VietnamNet news site reported that Khmer
students were dropping like flies out of school. Most of the students
with bad learning capacity are of Khmer minority; they cannot speak
Vietnamese well and cannot follow the study curriculum, a local teacher
told them. The report said 56% of drop-outs are from the Khmer minority,
with 30% of this figure leaving due to their inability to learn.

Vietnam insists it has introduced wide-reaching housing, 

Re: Promises and Reality- Can the oppositions run Cambodia?

2009-06-05 Thread Khmer Young

Pu Tim  Bun Heang,

I love to read your critical thinking and productive idea. Of course,
Cambodia will not move any further under Om Yintieng and other Hun
Sen's cronies. Several times when there are criticism of corruption,
human rights violation and inequality development, Om Yintieng will
come up to oppose those critics seriously, and one of his
justification is those critics are critical to his legitimate
government. Is this making sense that people voted for CPP and CPP can
do whatever they want? Critics cannot open their mouth towards those
unrighteous behavior of the government?

I am really appreciate with recent public speech of American
Ambassador Carol Rodly.

Of course, the person like Yintieng will allow Cambodia move towards
the mouth of Vietnam. In other sense, SRP sometime plays its role to
legalize and legitimize Hun Sen/Om Yintieng's government.

What could we do in this situation?

Hints: SRP has to be improved, CPP is not Om Yintieng, Vietnam cannot
oppress all CPP's members...etc

KY

On Jun 5, 1:55 pm, timothych...@aol.com wrote:
 Thanks Lok Bun Heang,

 Without SRP and other oppositions, the CPP would be viewed by the  world as
 an autocratic regime. That's why the CPP is using NEC and, most of all,  
 its multi-level infrastructures to make sure that it gets the majority of
 votes.  The strength of the CPP is its infrastructures and financial supports 
 at
  different levels. Whether it is fair or not, the CPP has so far managed to
  control its bases very tightly. Results can be adjusted to meet their need
 to  control the governments.

 You are right, the CPP does not need RSP to run Cambodia. It can do it  
 alone but it would rather have opposition party(s) to legitimize its  rulings.
 It will do everything to keep it that way. If Cambodia becomes  Champa,
 history will be written that Cambodia was a democratic country during  these
 periods and the majority of Khmer are to blame for voting for such a  
 government.

 Hanoi needs the CPP, the CPP need the oppositions, and legally speaking the
  oppositions have to work with the CPP. Whether we like it or not Chea Sim
 is Ram  Rainsy's president in the assembly. They may fights like cats and
 dogs to win  popular supports and to keep their job, and at the end of the day
 they are  (supposed to be) colleague.

 When will Cambodians wake up? Right now most Cambodians are happy with  
 where they are and how the situation is. They are fed up with the lies and  
 cheats of many politicians. I don't know if we can blame them or those  
 politicians who have so far used their pains and sufferings to seek higher  
 positions to serve their personal interests.

 Regards,

 =

 In a message dated 6/5/2009 6:54:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  

 sacravato...@optusnet.com.au writes:

 My views on your comment :
 As long as Yuon-Hanoi rules Cambodia,no way CPP  SRP can live  
 together.unleast SRP adopted policy to live as FUNCINPEC   NRP.
 CPP do not need any party to survive  rule Cambodia but its master  Hanoi.

 NEC is a sole Tool of CPP to showing the world of  CAMBODIA DEMOCRACY.

 Hanoi will not need CPP when the Indochinese Federation is  
 accomplished.See Champa  Kampuchea Krom.
 Hanoi do not need Cham party and Khmer Kampuchea Krom party to support  its
 ruling.
 If Khmer-People do not wake up themselvesThe dream of Ho Chiminh  will
 come true for sure.
 Ladies  Gentlemen the Vietnamezation is on the way.

 Cheers,
 Ung Bunheang

 Promises and Reality
 In  theory, SRP and other opposition parties offer great campaign promises
 for  Cambodia. Democracy, justice, freedom, social services etc… are very
 good  and pleasant for Cambodians to hear. But, practically, can SRP and other
  parties with its current intact infrastructures run the country without
 the  support from the CPP? Can they put together a group of competent and
 honest  leaders to run Cambodia?
 Perhaps, my unbiased answers to these questions will not sit well  with the
 diehard supporters of the oppositions or the CPP, but I know that  without
 the support of the current members and leaders of the CPP no  opposition
 party will be able to run Cambodia. The CPP are better  equipped and
 unfortunately all opposition parties lack human resources,  intellectual 
 resources,
 and financial resources, etc...Organizational structures of these parties are
 not even  strong enough to run their own party effectively.  Political
 structures of SRP combined  with any other opposition party are still very 
 week.
 Division within each  party exists and morality among most party leaders at
 all level is still  unacceptable. Many of them are worse than or equal to
 some CPP members.  
 With current political mood, the way all politicians behave and their  
 personal interests at stake; the CPP will never support the oppositions nor  
 relinquish its power. So the dream that one day the oppositions will run the  
 country within the next few decades is illogical.
 

THE CPP HAS ITS OWN VIETNAMESE ARMY POLICE Promises and Reality- Can the oppositions run Cambodia?

2009-06-05 Thread Bury Chau

THE CPP HAS NOT ONLY  The CPP are better equipped and unfortunately all 
opposition parties lack human resources, intellectual resources, and financial 
resources, .. 

 

THE CPP HAS THE VIETNAMESE TROOPS OF OCCUPATION OF CAMBODIA FROM 1979-2009 IN 
VIOLATION OF 10 UN RESOLUTIONS.

 

Dec. 25, 1978 PM Pham Van Dong launched an invasion of Cambodia. Some 100,000 
Vietnamese with 20,000 KUFNS troops, under the direction of Gen.Van Tien Dung, 
launch an invasion of Cambodia.


 

UN Passes Strong Resolution on Cambodia Human Rights Abuses 

Feb. 27, 1982 : UN Commission on Human Rights meeting in Geneva adopted a 
resolution condemning Vietnam’s occupation of Cambodia as a violation of 
Cambodian human rights. The vote was 28 in favor, 8 against, and 5 abstentions.

 

 

100 TORTURE CENTERS across CAMBODIA. 


Vietnam's occupation of Cambodia 1979-1989 under Le Duc Tho rule. 

An estimated 460 000 innocent Cambodians died , killed , tortured, etc...

100 Torture centers were established across Cambodia. (Methods of torture 
described to Amnesty International).
Methods of torture described to Amnesty International as being used by the 
Vietnamese forces of invasion and occupation of Cambodia under Le Duc Tho's 
rule, from 1979-1989, through the CPP/HUN SEN regime.( an estimated 460 000 
innocent Cambodians died during that period) 

1. Beatings with truncheons, sharp-edged wooden staves, and iron bars and 
whippings 
with chains and rubber hoses.( Methods of torture described to Amnesty 
International) 

2. Near-suffocation with plastic bags,( Methods of torture described to Amnesty 
International) 

3. Near-drowning in vats of water,( Methods of torture described to Amnesty 
International(Methods of torture described to Amnesty International) 

4. Burial alive, and(Methods of torture described to Amnesty International) 


 

Oct. 21, 1986 The UN General Assembly adopted a resolution A/RES/41/6, by vote 
of 116-21 with 13 abstentions, calling for a withdrawal of Vietnamese forces 
from Cambodia.

US president Reagan calls Vietnam to restore Cambodia Independence . 
President Reagan's address to the 43d Session of the United Nations General 
Assembly in New York, New York,September 26, 1988. 
Mr. Secretary-General, there are new hopes for Cambodia, a nation whose 
freedom and independence we seek just as avidly as we sought the freedom and 
independence of Afghanistan. We urge the rapid removal of all Vietnamese troops 
 

DOWN WITH THE COMMUNISTS BE THEY CHINESE OR VIETNAMESE

on the behavior  character of a Vietnamese refer to the book  Giai Phong  by 
T Terzani.

the book describes a Vietnamese as a thief , a liar , a killer , a deceiver, a 
sleeper 



 


 


From: timothych...@aol.com
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 18:04:57 -0400
Subject: Re: Promises and Reality- Can the oppositions run Cambodia?
To: camdisc@googlegroups.com


Correction ... week=weak
 

In a message dated 6/5/2009 5:21:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
timothych...@aol.com writes:

  

Promises and Reality
In theory, SRP and other opposition parties offer great campaign promises for 
Cambodia. Democracy, justice, freedom, social services etc… are very good and 
pleasant for Cambodians to hear. But, practically, can SRP and other parties 
with its current intact infrastructures run the country without the support 
from the CPP? Can they put together a group of competent and honest leaders to 
run Cambodia?
Perhaps, my unbiased answers to these questions will not sit well with the 
diehard supporters of the oppositions or the CPP, but I know that without the 
support of the current members and leaders of the CPP no opposition party will 
be able to run Cambodia. The CPP are better equipped and unfortunately all 
opposition parties lack human resources, intellectual resources, and financial 
resources, etc...Organizational structures of these parties are not even strong 
enough to run their own party effectively.  Political structures of SRP 
combined with any other opposition party are still very weak. Division within 
each party exists and morality among most party leaders at all levels is still 
unacceptable. Many of them are worse than or equal to some CPP members. 
With current political mood, the way all politicians behave and their personal 
interests at stake; the CPP will never support the oppositions nor relinquish 
its power. So the dream that one day the oppositions will run the country 
within the next few decades is illogical.
What do we need to do to make Cambodia a better place for Cambodians? Every 
Cambodian, (especially members of political parties,) needs to stop being a 
yes-man and demand that their politicians be accountable for their works and 
promises.  The opposition leaders must clean up their act, stop their rethorics 
and become better than the CPP leaders so that their voices are respectable and 
taken seriously by the ruling party.  The CPP leaders, on the other hand, need 
to keep their mind open for 

Re: Promises and Reality- Can the oppositions run Cambodia?

2009-06-05 Thread TimothyChhim


Sathonne  Chhim
Timothychhim.blogspot.com
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_query=timothy+chhimaq=f 
  

 
In a message dated 6/5/2009 10:52:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
khmeryo...@gmail.com writes:


Pu  Tim  Bun Heang,

I love to read your critical thinking and  productive idea. Of course,
Cambodia will not move any further under Om  Yintieng and other Hun
Sen's cronies. Several times when there are  criticism of corruption,
human rights violation and inequality development,  Om Yintieng will
come up to oppose those critics seriously, and one of  his
justification is those critics are critical to his  legitimate
government. Is this making sense that people voted for CPP and  CPP can
do whatever they want? Critics cannot open their mouth towards  those
unrighteous behavior of the government?

I am really appreciate  with recent public speech of American
Ambassador Carol Rodly.

Of  course, the person like Yintieng will allow Cambodia move towards
the mouth  of Vietnam. In other sense, SRP sometime plays its role to
legalize and  legitimize Hun Sen/Om Yintieng's government.

What could we do in this  situation?

Hints: SRP has to be improved, CPP is not Om Yintieng,  Vietnam cannot
oppress all CPP's members...etc

KY

On Jun 5,  1:55 pm, timothych...@aol.com wrote:
 Thanks Lok Bun  Heang,

 Without SRP and other oppositions, the CPP would be  viewed by the  world 
as
 an autocratic regime. That's why the CPP  is using NEC and, most of all,  
 its multi-level infrastructures  to make sure that it gets the majority of
 votes.  The strength of  the CPP is its infrastructures and financial 
supports at
  different levels. Whether it is fair or not, the CPP has so far managed  
to
  control its bases very tightly. Results can be adjusted to  meet their 
need
 to  control the governments.

 You  are right, the CPP does not need RSP to run Cambodia. It can do it  
 alone but it would rather have opposition party(s) to  legitimize its  
rulings.
 It will do everything to keep it that  way. If Cambodia becomes  Champa,
 history will be written that  Cambodia was a democratic country during  
these
 periods and the  majority of Khmer are to blame for voting for such a  
  government.

 Hanoi needs the CPP, the CPP need the oppositions,  and legally speaking 
the
  oppositions have to work with the CPP.  Whether we like it or not Chea 
Sim
 is Ram  Rainsy's president in  the assembly. They may fights like cats and
 dogs to win  popular  supports and to keep their job, and at the end of 
the day
 they are  (supposed to be) colleague.

 When will Cambodians wake  up? Right now most Cambodians are happy with  
 where they are and  how the situation is. They are fed up with the lies 
and  
 cheats  of many politicians. I don't know if we can blame them or those  
  politicians who have so far used their pains and sufferings to seek 
higher  
 positions to serve their personal interests.

  Regards,

 =

 In a message dated 6/5/2009  6:54:29 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  

  sacravato...@optusnet.com.au writes:

 My views on your comment  :
 As long as Yuon-Hanoi rules Cambodia,no way CPP  SRP can live  
 together.unleast SRP adopted policy to live as FUNCINPECNRP.
 CPP do not need any party to survive  rule  Cambodia but its master  
Hanoi.

 NEC is a sole Tool of CPP  to showing the world of  CAMBODIA DEMOCRACY.

 Hanoi will  not need CPP when the Indochinese Federation is  
  accomplished.See Champa  Kampuchea Krom.
 Hanoi do not need Cham  party and Khmer Kampuchea Krom party to support  
its
  ruling.
 If Khmer-People do not wake up themselvesThe dream of Ho  Chiminh  
will
 come true for sure.
 Ladies  Gentlemen  the Vietnamezation is on the way.

 Cheers,
 Ung  Bunheang

 Promises and Reality
 In  theory, SRP and  other opposition parties offer great campaign 
promises
 for  Cambodia. Democracy, justice, freedom, social services etc… are  very
 good  and pleasant for Cambodians to hear. But, practically,  can SRP and 
other
  parties with its current intact  infrastructures run the country without
 the  support from the  CPP? Can they put together a group of competent and
 honest  leaders to run Cambodia?
 Perhaps, my unbiased answers to these  questions will not sit well  with 
the
 diehard supporters of the  oppositions or the CPP, but I know that  
without
 the support of  the current members and leaders of the CPP no  opposition
 party  will be able to run Cambodia. The CPP are better  equipped and
  unfortunately all opposition parties lack human resources,  intellectual 
 resources,
 and financial resources, etc...Organizational structures of  these 
parties are
 not even  strong enough to run their own party  effectively.  Political
 structures of SRP combined  with any  other opposition party are still 
very week.
 Division within each  party exists and morality among most party leaders 
at
 all level  is still  unacceptable. Many of them are worse than or equal to