Re: [cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park boundaries

2015-11-15 Thread Geo Kloppel
It seems to me that ideally the city would take the lead in petitioning DEC for a remedy. Other entities, groups and individuals might sign-on as joint petitioners. The first hurdle would be to convince the city that enforcing its existing firearms ban on the grounds of Stewart Park, while certa

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park boundaries

2015-11-15 Thread Geo Kloppel
The state has the authority to restrict or ban hunting in any area it designates, for any of a variety of reasons, including public safety. And the state already has the resources in place to communicate and enforce such restrictions. If the city or its citizens want a ban in the waters off Stew

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park boundaries

2015-11-15 Thread Kenneth V. Rosenberg
Missing from this exchange is the fact that it was DEC's top waterfowl biologist, in consultation with the DEC office in Cortland, who recommended that the easiest way to resolve the human conflicts was to enforce the already existing ordinance passed by the City of Ithaca, but not recently enfo

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park boundaries

2015-11-15 Thread Dave Nutter
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park boundaries

2015-11-15 Thread Geo Kloppel
Afraid not. That's just where the well-established supremacy of the state's sole authority to regulate hunting comes in. This is not an issue where home rule rights might plausibly be asserted. State-wide regulation of hunting is clearly a preemptive "general law" as defined in Article IX of the

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park boundaries

2015-11-14 Thread Dave Nutter
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[cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park boundaries

2015-11-14 Thread Geo Kloppel
I was just looking at ecode section 336-10, which concerns the boundaries of Stewart Park. A casual reading might suggest that the park extends north into the lake a considerable distance (all the way to the city line), but this is not the case. A more careful reading will reveal that within the