[ccp4bb] Generate high resolution pirctures in pymol

2008-09-17 Thread yang li
Hi all, Can somebody please help me to generate high resolution movie files for secondary structure of proteins? After I ray a model with high resolution in pymol and then save it as movie frames, the high resolution and ray seem lost. I have tried the command likes ray 2000,2000 and it does

Re: [ccp4bb] Generate high resolution pirctures in pymol

2008-09-17 Thread Andrzej Lyskowski
Hi, There are detailed instructions on the net but as far as I can remember all you need before starting to generate the frames is the following command: set ray_trace_frames, 1 Also, why do you need such a high resolution. I know that computers have a lot of power to burn but if you

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
Hi Warren CCP4ers, first of all, it is great that at least one application, MacPyMOL, works again in stereo under Leopard! It is good if developers like you and users like us tell Apple how important a working stereo 3D is. Personally, I consider stereo 3D as VERY important and would like

Re: [ccp4bb] Rotation Function of MOLREP

2008-09-17 Thread Eleanor Dodson
ALMN can plot the rotation function as a map - although I challenge anyone to make much sense of it! More or less the same methodology as MOLREP. More useful - it lists all peaks generated by the symmetry operators in Eulerian, and polar angles and gives the direct cosines of the rotation

Re: [ccp4bb] Generate high resolution pirctures in pymol

2008-09-17 Thread Warren DeLano
Remember, there's a whole mailing list wiki dedicated to PyMOL, so no need to clutter up CCP4bb with PyMOL-specific questions! https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pymol-users http://pymolwiki.org More complete answer: # assuming that movie has already been defined in PyMOL #

[ccp4bb] Topp fails: TOP: Open failed: File: /people/...../myfile.pdb

2008-09-17 Thread Jan Dohnalek
Hi all, Using the 6.0.2 distribution of CCP4, the top program keeps failing because it just can't see the pdb files. The files can be accessed by the text viewer of CCP4. (the button VIEW) I have tried to put them in other directories to make the path string shorter, etc. None of those helped.

Re: [ccp4bb] Topp fails: TOP: Open failed: File: /people/...../myfile.pdb

2008-09-17 Thread Ian Tickle
Hi Jan We had this problem, I think it's because the character strings used to store pathnames are only 80 chars long, so if you have a long pathname (you didn't show your full pathname!) then it has a problem. You can either fix the program, or do as we did make a soft link in the current

[ccp4bb] Non-integer epsilons for rotation axes.

2008-09-17 Thread Ian Tickle
All - I've been trying to track down a paper (or papers) where it was shown that the epsilon values (symmetry factors) for space groups with pure rotation axes are not integers as is usually assumed (but still integers for screw axes). It's almost certainly in Acta Cryst., probably in the 60's or

Re: [ccp4bb] Topp fails: TOP: Open failed: File: /people/...../myfile.pdb

2008-09-17 Thread Ian Tickle
Sorry I should have copied this to the BB as it may be of general interest: -Original Message- From: Ian Tickle Sent: 17 September 2008 11:05 To: 'Jan Dohnalek' Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] Topp fails: TOP: Open failed: File: /people/./myfile.pdb OK try this one: looking at the program I

Re: [ccp4bb] Non-integer epsilons for rotation axes.

2008-09-17 Thread George M. Sheldrick
I think that you are looking for A.J.C. Wilson, Acta Cryst. 17 (1964) 1591-2. George Prof. George M. Sheldrick FRS Dept. Structural Chemistry, University of Goettingen, Tammannstr. 4, D37077 Goettingen, Germany Tel. +49-551-39-3021 or -3068 Fax. +49-551-39-22582 On Wed, 17 Sep 2008, Ian

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread William G. Scott
On Sep 16, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Warren DeLano wrote: Also, do crystallographers still consider stereo 3D to be a high-priority or must-have feature in a graphics workstation? Hi Warren: I'd put lack of stereo 3D in the same categories as lack of grant support or involuntary celibacy. I'm

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread Van Den Berg, Bert
On Sep 16, 2008, at 5:26 PM, Warren DeLano wrote: Also, do crystallographers still consider stereo 3D to be a high-priority or must-have feature in a graphics workstation? Yes, I do. Really, how can you do without? As for LCD stereo: yes, please!

[ccp4bb] Error while compiling ccp4-6.0.99e from source

2008-09-17 Thread Pedro M. Matias
Dear CCP4ers, I am compiling ccp4-6.0.99e from source and get the errors listed below when the compilation gets to lib/ccif/libccif.a. I re-ran configure with the --with-rxdispencer option as recommended but the error persists. My system is a Fedora Core 8 Linux xtal2.itqb.unl.pt

[ccp4bb] MrBump Installation ccp4

2008-09-17 Thread Daniel Wohlwend
Hi all, We' ve just encountered a problem concerning the installation of MrBump on our Linux machine. MrBump needs Fasta35 for operation, but during installation does not recognise the already installed Fasta35, even if Fasta35 is placed in the ccp4i bin. Under the same location the recognition

Re: [ccp4bb] MrBump Installation ccp4

2008-09-17 Thread Ronan Keegan
Hi Daniel, Sorry to hear about your problem with mrbump. You say that you put the Fasta35 executable in the ccp4i bin directory(note the i). This directory is probably not in your system PATH. I would recommend that you put it into the $CCP4/bin which should be in your system path provided

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread Juergen Bosch
Very well phrased Steve, and I do agree - however stereo is helpful e.g. looking at binding pockets etc. I think it depends very much on your workflow what you are actually doing if you really need lots of stereo. In my case I run everything on my MacbookPro but I occasionally walk over to

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread mjvdwoerd
I would agree with this statement, my preference is VERY STRONG. We mostly work on Nucleosome and Nucleosome-nuclear protein complexes. By definition these are low-resolution structures. They are very difficult to interpret, even with stereo and I could not imagine even trying to work on

[ccp4bb] OS X 10.5.5 update and X11

2008-09-17 Thread William G. Scott
Hi folks: My apologies to those who will find this irrelevant, but hopefully they didn't read beyond the subject line. I've gotten many questions about this, so ... After the update to 10.5.5, you have to update (again) X11, preferably to 2.3.1. Why Apple didn't include this in the

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread Scott Pegan
Just to put my two cents in on this as I would fall into that new generation so to speak: I started out with the SGI and linux systems with stereo, O, and dials about eight years ago. Never used the dials and rarely seen anyone else use them. Over the past few years I have transition to coot,

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread Nathaniel Echols
I find that depth-cue/fog is a sufficient cue for me to determine the 3-dimensionality of what I am viewing on my 2-dimensional monitor, and I find that most 3D systems tend to give me a headache long before I would get one without them. Even when the depth-cue/fog isn't enough, simply

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread Santarsiero, Bernard D.
My use goes back to Evans and Sutherland workstations, FRODO, SGI's with O, Duncan's graphics program suite, and COOT, on multiple platforms. I don't use dials at all, and multiple uses with a three-button mouse are far more favorable. I still prefer O to COOT for a number of reasons. The main

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread William G. Scott
Hi Nat: On Sep 17, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Nathaniel Echols wrote: those of us who came of age (technologically speaking) in an era of ubiquitous bright, high-contrast (and increasingly massive) LCD screens can't bear to look at a CRT display any more. The day I stopped using CRTs in the

[ccp4bb] available Stereo 3D LCD monitors / Linux compatibility

2008-09-17 Thread Christian RAUSCH
Dear all, I would like to continue the discussion on the availability of 3D-LCD monitors that work with Linux or Mac (started in the discussion Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard). (We do have a running stereo capable system with Linux-PC SGI-CTR-monitor CrystalEyes.) Now we

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread Lutz Schmitt
Dear all, following this discussion and enjoying AGAIN 3D on a Mac - at least in Pymol -, I'd like to add my two cent opinion. Whether or not stereo is important in research might be a matter of debate, true! But, we are focussing on membrane proteins and normally these structures are

[ccp4bb] Classic density map drawing!

2008-09-17 Thread Lijun Liu
Hi All, I am trying to make a quite classic demonstration of electron density map sliced and contoured as (smoothed) isoheight curves. The sliced section is random and NOT along any main cell axes. I am curious if there is any crystallographic software can handle this, which will save me

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread Tommi Kajander
if you have bad/poor experimental phases and you are building de novo/ from scratch by hand, in my opinion stereo is very handy and makes map interpretation much easier. -tommi On Sep 17, 2008, at 6:02 PM, Steve Lane wrote: Warren et al.: The following is based largely on a survey

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread mesters
Dear Steve, despite your survey/perception, bottom line is, comes paper writing time, nothing beats stereo viewing of the molecules or the packing of them in the crystal lattice: facts become apparent that are otherwise easily overseen in two dimensions! Stereo-free macromolecular

Re: [ccp4bb] available Stereo 3D LCD monitors / Linux compatibility

2008-09-17 Thread Warren DeLano
Christian, I think it would be great to continue this discussion on CCP4bb, especially as we learn more about all the new stereo-capable display products now hitting the market. It would be even more wonderful if a few volunteers could monitor this discusson and then summarize their

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread Engin Ozkan
From another member of the new generation... I could not agree more with Scott. Stereo is not essential, my lab of thirteen crystallographers does not even have the capability, and noone has ever asked for it (including our older PI). And I have refined and built in one year one 3.9 A and

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread Paula Lario
An advantage with stereo viewing is that you can increase the slab in a crowed active site and still make sense of it. In my experiance, valuable for understanding structure function relationships in flexible proteins. Paula Lario On 17-Sep-08, at 8:21 PM, Engin Ozkan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[ccp4bb] Clarification of MOLREP logfile

2008-09-17 Thread Rajan Pillai
Hi All, In the portion of the MOREP logfile where it lists the RF peaks, what does Rf and Rf/sigma mean? Is Rf - peak height and Rf/sigma - peak heights measured as deviations from mean? Looking into the CCP4 tutorial on MOLREP (http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/dist/examples/tutorial/html/mr-tutorial.html)

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread Francis E Reyes
Ironically as this stereo discussion ensues, it seems NVidia is pushing 3d glasses once again (http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/09/17/1530202.shtml ) . Those 120Hz LCD's are welcome reprieve from the bulky SGI monitors in our x-ray core now. More on topic, however, as a 'newer' generation

Re: [ccp4bb] Progresss with Stereo 3D under Mac OS X Leopard

2008-09-17 Thread William G. Scott
On Sep 17, 2008, at 8:21 PM, Engin Ozkan wrote: As a grad student we had access to stereo, I did not use it much. I have to say I do not know why new students would be swayed just by them. As a young grad student, I was amazed by chemistry in action (and I still am), and did not need