Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-21 Thread James Holton
It is interesting and relevant here I think that if you measure background-subtracted spot intensities you actually are measuring the AVERAGE electron density. Yes, the arithmetic average of all the unit cells in the crystal. It does not matter how any of the vibrations are "correlated", it i

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2010-01-21 Thread Grimshaw,John,ZURICH,Esbatech
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Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-21 Thread Colin Nave
James Some comments! >The diffuse scatter does NOT tell you about the > deviations from this average; it tells you how the deviations > are correlated from unit cell to unit cell. Does this just refer to the scatter near the Bragg peaks? If there is no correlation from unit cell to unit cell t

Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-21 Thread John R Helliwell
Dear Jacob, Your approach I think it is a sound one for exploring how to gain a significant potential improvement by harnessing the diffuse diffraction, which looks rich and varied in many cases ie must surely contain good structural information. The separation of the various experimental and cryst

Re: [ccp4bb] Acta E

2010-01-21 Thread Shao-Yang Ku
Quoting "Bernhard Rupp" : I suppose most have read the Acta D editorial already http://journals.iucr.org/d/issues/2010/01/00/me0408/me0408.pdf but it seems another creative way of structure generation has been discovered by some small molecule people: http://journals.iucr.org/e/issues/2010/01/00

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2010-01-21 Thread Martin Noble
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Re: [ccp4bb] smeared spot in diffraction

2010-01-21 Thread Brad Bennett
Hi Fengxia- How about increasing the PEG% so you don't have to add as much "other" cryoprotectant? Also, have you tried annealing the crystals? I've had success with this when I've had samples diffract similarly. The simplest way is by blocking the cryostream for 2-3 seconds (repeat 1-2 times) and

[ccp4bb] Practical workshop on the use of longer wavelength in Structural Biology - ESRF 18-19 February 2010 - REMINDER - January 24 Deadline

2010-01-21 Thread Daniele de Sanctis
After the success in number of applications, a gentle reminder before the close deadline (next Sunday)! = Practical workshop on the use of longer wavelengths in Structural Biology *The routine accessibility, on some macromolecular crystallography (MX) beamlines at SR sources, of photon

Re: [ccp4bb] smeared spot in diffraction

2010-01-21 Thread Enrico Stura
Fengxia, From the images it is clear that the degree of smearing is variable. From this you can deduce that you should be able to get sharp images by finding better cryo-conditions. There is no magic involved. Your crystallization conditions have little precipitant and a lot of water. Hen

Re: [ccp4bb] smeared spot in diffraction

2010-01-21 Thread Kelly Daughtry
Fengxia, To me the diffraction appears as if the crystals did not freeze well. So the best option seems to be annealing (as already suggested) or to try different cryo-protectants. Did you perform a room-temperature mount? If so, were the spots nice and round (suggesting the cryo is the cause of t

Re: [ccp4bb] smeared spot in diffraction

2010-01-21 Thread MARTYN SYMMONS
One other thought following from Kelly's point about room temp check is that most likely these are thin plates or needles. And I think it was Frank VonD who pointed out that some of these thin crystals can be physically stressed by the shape of the frozen cryo formed in the cryoloop. So choose l

[ccp4bb] CCP4 installation error 1911

2010-01-21 Thread Yong-Fu Li
Hi, I am trying to install the latest version and downloaded the .exe file. But it failed with error message 1911. CCP4Wiki doesn't have any entry for it. CCP4 6.1.2 (it appears to be 6.1.3) Windows XP professional system Here is the error message: "Error 1911. Could not register type library f

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2010-01-21 Thread Neutze Gp. account
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Re: [ccp4bb] Refining against images instead of only reflections

2010-01-21 Thread Jacob Keller
Did anybody notice the serendipity of the "smeared spots" question just asked on the bb? I wonder whether, with the proposed new software, this data set could actually be used to solve a structure? In fact, these images look pretty similar to those in the NSB paper I cited previously. Jacob Kel

[ccp4bb] R-sym and R-merge

2010-01-21 Thread james09 pruza
Dear All CCP4bbers, Please help me in finding *R-sym I *(observed), *R-merge I*(obseved), *R-Free Error i*n the data provided below. If I am not wrong, Can anyone suggest me the difference between R-sym and R-merge? Thanks in advance for the help. James* * R-values of internal consistency : ==

Re: [ccp4bb] R-sym and R-merge

2010-01-21 Thread Frederic VELLIEUX
Hi James, Both Rsym and Rmerge are agreement factors. Rmerge is used in the case when you have data from multiple crystals (because you are merging data coming from these different crystals). Fairly unfrequent nowadays with the high flux beam lines at SR sources. Otherwise what is quoted is an

Re: [ccp4bb] R-sym and R-merge

2010-01-21 Thread Phil Evans
I've never been able to discover any difference between Rsym & Rmerge Phil On 21 Jan 2010, at 18:34, james09 pruza wrote: > Dear All CCP4bbers, > > Please help me in finding *R-sym I *(observed), *R-merge I*(obseved), *R-Free > Error i*n the data provided below. If I am not wrong, Can anyone sug

Re: [ccp4bb] R-sym and R-merge

2010-01-21 Thread Bart Hazes
For what it's worth, I've been told that Rmerge was used originally, in the pre-cryo few images per crystal age, to indicate the R-factor for merging data collected from multiple crystals. Isym is calculated identical but refers to data collected from a single crystal. To be honest I'm not sur

Re: [ccp4bb] R-sym and R-merge

2010-01-21 Thread Dale Tronrud
I doubt there ever was a universal convention. When I was young, Rsym was calculated from the symmetry related reflections on a single film. With precession photography there could be a lot of them, but even the oscillation films often had many mates because the crystal was aligned with a symm

Re: [ccp4bb] R-sym and R-merge

2010-01-21 Thread Edward A. Berry
I'm not familiar with this output (XDS?) but I would guess Rw-lin (not Rw-pim or rim, although those are theoretically more useful) is the R-factor to use for Rsym (or Rmerge if you are merging datasets previously reduced from multiple crystals). I think "observed" means, out of all the spots that

Re: [ccp4bb] R-sym and R-merge

2010-01-21 Thread Soisson, Stephen M
Wow, can I quote this in the response to the next review that I get back where someone complains about the usage of Rsym? Believe me, I have seen it twice! Cheers, Steve -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:ccp...@jiscmail.ac.uk] On Behalf Of Dale Tronrud Sent: Thursday

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2010-01-21 Thread Axel Brunger
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Re: [ccp4bb] smeared spot in diffraction

2010-01-21 Thread Ho Leung Ng
In addition to the good suggestions already posted, I also suggest: 1. Exploring how your cryoprotection is done in addition to screening chemical conditions. For example, you may want to test longer equilibration in cryoprotectant, stepwise increase in cryoprotect., very fast swish through cryopr

Re: [ccp4bb] verifying a molecular replacement solution (test case where the true structure is known)

2010-01-21 Thread Francois Berenger
James Holton wrote: Looks like you have already gotten several good suggestions, Many good ones indeed, I tried both csymmatch and origins.com for the moment. This mailing list and all its people is extremely helpful. Thank you very much, Francois. > but I also wrote a jiffy program for doin