Re: [ccp4bb] Scaling question

2010-06-09 Thread James Holton
Check your mosflm input file. If this is an ADSC type detector and you have specified that it is (using DETECTOR TYPE ADSC or SCANNER TYPE ADSC), but have not explicitly specified the overload limit with OVERLOAD CUTOFF, then the default overload cutoff for integration will be 100,000, and

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic Diffraction Examples

2010-06-09 Thread Bjørn Panyella Pedersen
The H+-ATPase from A. thaliana had anisotropic diffraction (ca. 3.6/5.5Å). This could be explained by the crystal packing and more specifically the detergent micelles in the packing. See: Pedersen BP, Buch-Pedersen MJ, Morth JP, Palmgren MG, Nissen P. Crystal structure of the plasma membrane

[ccp4bb] Where to find novelty of PDBids?

2010-06-09 Thread Frank von Delft
Hi, for an analysis I need the sequence identity of any PDBid to its closest match in the PDB *at the time it was deposited*. It seems like something somebody would have done before; any thoughts where to find it? Cheers phx

Re: [ccp4bb] Scaling question

2010-06-09 Thread harry powell
Hi I'd be somewhat surprised if this accounted for the difference since it would require the routine collection of many overloads in each dataset before you'd notice that the completion was higher systematically. (The two different cutoffs that James refers to are the absolute cutoff

Re: [ccp4bb] JLigand Coot link

2010-06-09 Thread Debreczeni, Judit
Also, if you happen to use refmac for refinement: it rewrites LINK records as LINKRs in the output pdb file -- and LINKR records are unknown to Coot... JED. -- AstraZeneca UK Limited is a company incorporated in England

[ccp4bb] sketcher

2010-06-09 Thread Yahui Yan
Hello, Could you please help me with the sketcher? I'm trying to use ccp4 sketcher to generate a new ligand and then complex it with a protein in coot. I've drawn the ligand, numbered each atom and defined each bond type. Then I ran save file, create library description. The pdb file was loaded

Re: [ccp4bb] JLigand Coot link

2010-06-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
This is a REAL PAIN Paul! Eleanor Debreczeni, Judit wrote: Also, if you happen to use refmac for refinement: it rewrites LINK records as LINKRs in the output pdb file -- and LINKR records are unknown to Coot... JED.

Re: [ccp4bb] sketcher

2010-06-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Can you send your fragment of the pdb containing the ligand, and the cif file? Eleanor Yahui Yan wrote: Hello, Could you please help me with the sketcher? I'm trying to use ccp4 sketcher to generate a new ligand and then complex it with a protein in coot. I've drawn the ligand, numbered

Re: [ccp4bb] JLigand Coot link

2010-06-09 Thread Kevin Cowtan
LINKR is not part of the PDB format: http://www.wwpdb.org/documentation/format23/sect6.html It's also not supported by MMDB, for that reason. I think Eugene put in some stuff to store remarks, but I don't know if unrecognized keywords are also stored (Eugene?). So there's a problem here, and

Re: [ccp4bb] dissolving peptides !

2010-06-09 Thread Frank Niesen
Rashmi, To facilitate dissolution of a peptide we found ultrasound (in glass, plastics absorb much of the energy) useful. It might be also helpful to warm the solution mildly. Frank

[ccp4bb] CCP4

2010-06-09 Thread Matthias Zebisch
Hi Yahui! I am having this problem as well again and agin. Most problematic is it, if you have non-standard atoms in your compound. I don't really know whrere the problem lies, but here is what I do: Do not use sketcher! Simply generate your ligand using coot by placing atoms into the density

Re: [ccp4bb] sketcher

2010-06-09 Thread Matthias Zebisch
Hi Yahui! I am having this problem as well again and agin. Most problematic is it, if you have non-standard atoms in your compound. I don't really know whrere the problem lies, but here is what I do: Do not use sketcher! Simply generate your ligand using coot by placing atoms into the density

Re: [ccp4bb] sketcher

2010-06-09 Thread Garib Murshudov
Perhaps you could try to use JLigand. It may do a better job. it is available from: www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/mxstat/ In the jligand session there are two tutorials also. they may help you to run and generate your ligand description. If any problem please let me know. In general refmac is not

Re: [ccp4bb] JLigand Coot link

2010-06-09 Thread Garib Murshudov
In the latest, latest version refmac writes LINK instead of LINKR. It is a temporary solution. We need a better solution and hopefully we will have one soon This version of refmac is available from: www.ysbl.york.ac.uk/refmac/data/refmac_experimental/ regards Garib P.S. This version also

[ccp4bb] common protein crystallization contaminants

2010-06-09 Thread Murray, James W
Dear All, I was wondering if anyone has compiled a list of common proteins that can co-purify from E. coli preps (and yeast etc), and crystallize instead of the protein of interest. If list members send me individual examples I will compile a summary for the bulletin board. best wishes

[ccp4bb] Anisotropic data and an extremely long c axis

2010-06-09 Thread Marie Lacroix
Hi, I also have a question concerning anisotropic data. Collected a data set and the best crystal gave highly anisotropic diffraction patterns ( 3.7 A - 5.8 A). So my first question is how to handle these data. I got only experience with normal data using the ccp4 suite. Are there any

Re: [ccp4bb] common protein crystallization contaminants

2010-06-09 Thread Huw Jenkins
On 9 Jun 2010, at 12:54, Murray, James W wrote: I was wondering if anyone has compiled a list of common proteins that can co-purify from E. coli preps (and yeast etc), and crystallize instead of the protein of interest. If list members send me individual examples I will compile a summary

Re: [ccp4bb] JLigand Coot link

2010-06-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
But does it follow the PDB format for LINK records; it is a disaster if the LINK read from the PDB have a different definition and information content than LINK records output from REFMAC. At least LINKR is a flagged non-standard record. Eleanor Garib Murshudov wrote: In the latest, latest

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic data and an extremely long c axis

2010-06-09 Thread Jose Antonio Cuesta Seijo
A first concern with that extreme anisotropy is at the integration and scaling stages. Large swaths of your detector are empty of reflections, but they will still bias the way reference profiles are calculated at integration; while the lots of reflections with intensities around 0 (but with

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic data and an extremely long c axis

2010-06-09 Thread Frederic VELLIEUX
Anisotropy in the diffraction pattern could simply be due to the shape of the crystals. The intensity of diffraction is a function of the volume of diffracting matter that is hit by the X-ray beam. Think for example of a thin plate crystal, which you rotate in the X-ray beam. When the plate is

Re: [ccp4bb] sketcher

2010-06-09 Thread Yahui Yan
Hello Garib, I just tried JLigand. It's amazing. I opened the pdb file which was made by sketcher and save lib file and coordinate file. Then load these files to coot. Everything works fine now. I think I need to double check the ligand as you advised. Thanks a lot to you all. Regards, Yahui

[ccp4bb] Univ California boycott of Nature publishing group

2010-06-09 Thread Charles W. Carter, Jr
Although Bill his as a the return address to his message, it seems to me to be of considerable relevance to the crystallographic community as a whole. My recent experience representing the ACA on the AIP Governing Board and Executive Committee provided considerable introduction into many of the

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic data and an extremely long c axis

2010-06-09 Thread harry powell
Hi Many years ago I coded up integration using anisotropic resolution limits for Mosflm - it seemed to work well, but the refinement programs available at the time really didn't like huge regions of reciprocal space having no data in them - they preferred to have measurements there with

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic data and an extremely long c axis

2010-06-09 Thread Tim Gruene
Dear Marie, I believe that the first of Fred's explanations can mostly be corrected for by scaling (and it could partly be overcome by longer exposure times as long as radiation damage does not kick in). In your case, where one cell axis is about 10x as long as the other two, Fred's second

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4

2010-06-09 Thread Jim Fairman
I suggest using the PRODRG Server: http://davapc1.bioch.dundee.ac.uk/prodrg/ On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Matthias Zebisch matthias.zebi...@bbz.uni-leipzig.de wrote: Hi Yahui! I am having this problem as well again and agin. Most problematic is it, if you have non-standard atoms in your

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: AW: AW: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic data and an extremely long c axis

2010-06-09 Thread Bosch, Juergen
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Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic data and an extremely long c axis

2010-06-09 Thread James Holton
Frederic VELLIEUX wrote: Anisotropy in the diffraction pattern could simply be due to the shape of the crystals. The intensity of diffraction is a function of the volume of diffracting matter that is hit by the X-ray beam. Think for example of a thin plate crystal, which you rotate in the

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic data and an extremely long c axis

2010-06-09 Thread Bosch, Juergen
I vaguely recall an email from Kay Diderich about 3 years ago to this board but I couldn't find it, describing a neat method of distorting the diffraction image to meet the ellipsoidal characteristics of the anisotropic diffraction. But I might be confusion myself, anyhow Kay can you comment on

Re: [ccp4bb] Softwares for Protein-Protein docking!

2010-06-09 Thread Jiamu Du
Hi, I suggest you to try HADDOCK if you have some interaction data, such as the binding site, key residues, etc. It can use the interaction data as a restrain and make the dock more accurate. And the web interface of the HADDOCK server is very easy to handle. Best wishes. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic data and an extremely long c axis

2010-06-09 Thread Frank von Delft
On 09/06/2010 16:49, James Holton wrote: Operationally, I recommend treating anisotropic data just like isotropic data. There is nothing wrong with measuring a lot of zeros (think about systematic absences), other than making irrelevant statistics like Rmerge higher. One need only glance at

[ccp4bb] Compilation of CNS 1.21 on Mac OSX 10.6.3

2010-06-09 Thread Pryank Patel
Hi all, I've posted this in the hope that somebody in the CCP4 community may have come across this problem and can shed some light. I've posted this question on other lists (cnsbb, ccpnmr and aria - the reason will become clear), but with no success so far. I have recently acquired a

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic data and an extremely long c axis

2010-06-09 Thread James Holton
Frank von Delft wrote: On 09/06/2010 16:49, James Holton wrote: Operationally, I recommend treating anisotropic data just like isotropic data. There is nothing wrong with measuring a lot of zeros (think about systematic absences), other than making irrelevant statistics like Rmerge higher.

Re: [ccp4bb] Compilation of CNS 1.21 on Mac OSX 10.6.3

2010-06-09 Thread James Holton
I have often wondered how it is that one can actually run and play games like Pac-Man(R) on a modern PC using the actual bit-for-bit contents of the EPROM cartridges that I used to put into my Atari 2600 (circa 1982), but for some reason programs written just a few years ago will neither

Re: [ccp4bb] Anisotropic data and an extremely long c axis

2010-06-09 Thread Ronald E Stenkamp
But at some point, getting a clear map might not be the goal. If you're in refinement mode, the weak reflections also provide information that your model needs to fit. I find I/sig(I) (or I/sig(I)) to be about as useful as Rmerge (or its relatives). Ron On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, James Holton

Re: [ccp4bb] Compilation of CNS 1.21 on Mac OSX 10.6.3

2010-06-09 Thread Patel, Pryank
My sincere apologies for not being clear. When I said gcc, I meant I installed the full compiler package which includes gfortran. I did use gfortran for the compilation. I have also tried the commercial Intel compilers (albeit the evaluation version), which produced the errors I described

Re: [ccp4bb] Compilation of CNS 1.21 on Mac OSX 10.6.3

2010-06-09 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Wednesday 09 June 2010 10:45:07 am James Holton wrote: I have often wondered how it is that one can actually run and play games like Pac-Man(R) on a modern PC using the actual bit-for-bit contents of the EPROM cartridges that I used to put into my Atari 2600 (circa 1982), but for some

Re: [ccp4bb] Compilation of CNS 1.21 on Mac OSX 10.6.3

2010-06-09 Thread Ben Eisenbraun
Hello Ethan, I may be mis-remembering, but I have it in mind that the cns source code requires selecting or porting a set of compiler-specific routines in one of the source modules. These are work-arounds for the variability in Fortran implementations mentioned above. The CNS build system

Re: [ccp4bb] Compilation of CNS 1.21 on Mac OSX 10.6.3

2010-06-09 Thread Axel Brunger
Please note that the latest version of Xcode in Mac OS X 10.6.3 breaks the Intel Fortran and C compilers. It is possible that Xcode also breaks gfortran, but I haven't tested it. I've reverted to the Xcode version that came with the original Snow Leopard release. Intel is aware of the problem,

[ccp4bb] SGI O2 again

2010-06-09 Thread Brennan Bonnet
Hi All, As I've said, I'm trying to put some version of Linux on an old SGI O2. I have found a couple of versions of Linux that I'd like to try but I think the problem now might be that the O2 isn't configured to read from CD ROM on start up. Does anyone know how to go about changing this

Re: [ccp4bb] Softwares for Protein-Protein docking!

2010-06-09 Thread anil kumar
Hello, I have tried HADDOCK recently and have got some parsing related error! (indicative of some errors in the input PDB files.). I have checked my pdb files and did not figure out anything wrong. May I please get some suggestions about it from any of the experienced ones in this area?

Re: [ccp4bb] Softwares for Protein-Protein docking!

2010-06-09 Thread Jiamu Du
I am not sure what is the problem you have. Usually, I use O formated PDB files. It works well. I think you can report your bug to the Dr. A.M.J.J. Bonvin who is maintaining the server. On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 6:08 PM, anil kumar anilkumar...@yahoo.co.in wrote: Hello, I have tried HADDOCK

Re: [ccp4bb] Compilation of CNS 1.21 on Mac OSX 10.6.3 - Solved

2010-06-09 Thread Patel, Pryank
Hi all, Thanks to everybody who has contributed over the past couple of days on the various bulletin boards I have posted to. As is always the case, the solution was quite simple but completely passed me by. I'm going to use Mac inexperience as an excuse here... :-) So the original problem

Re: [ccp4bb] Compilation of CNS 1.21 on Mac OSX 10.6.3 - Solved

2010-06-09 Thread Axel Brunger
A PS on the Intel compiler / Xcode issue: the first work-around (-use-asm) does not work in conjunction with OpenMP enabled. Thus, I recommend to revert to Xcode 3.2.1 (and then reinstall the compilers) until the issue has been fixed by Intel. Axel On Jun 9, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Patel, Pryank

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: Univ California boycott of Nature publishing group

2010-06-09 Thread Tim Fenn
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:50:10 -0700 William G. Scott wgsc...@chemistry.ucsc.edu wrote: Sorry about the off-topic nature (so to speak) of this post, especially given that it is not yet Friday, but I am interested what our community thinks of this:

Re: [ccp4bb] Softwares for Protein-Protein docking!

2010-06-09 Thread xaravich ivan
Thank you Rotem and everyone else who replied to mypost. I am replying to Rotem's mail as his link has everything inclusive of what others had suggested. I love ccp4 bb You always get more than what you ask for. Thanks guys. Ivan On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Rotem Sertchook