Re: [ccp4bb] kinase purification

2011-03-30 Thread faisal tarique
Kendall is absolutely correct.. Faisal On 3/30/11, Kendall Nettles wrote: > There is a paper from John Kuriyan on co-expressing a phosphatase with c-Src > kinase domain to enable bacterial expression of homogenous protein ( > PMID: > 16260764). Also look at work from E. Goldsmith (PMID: 16829129

Re: [ccp4bb] where to buy stereo glasses for making stereo figures?

2011-03-30 Thread Adrian Goldman
Yes, but this is not how you do it. I assume you have a stereo image to start with generated from (eg) pymol. and you are trying to float the labels at the same "z" as specific atoms or objects. It is simple. Place the two labels for the two images at the same y value (y up, x across in my n

Re: [ccp4bb] where to buy stereo glasses for making stereo figures?

2011-03-30 Thread Jiamu Du
Thanks. We have this type of stereo glasses. It is good for watching the figures on paper, but very difficult to adjust the figures' labels on computer screen. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:29 PM, Bosch, Juergen wrote: > Watch out, this is an advertisement ! > http://hamptonresearch.com/product_det

Re: [ccp4bb] where to buy stereo glasses for making stereo figures?

2011-03-30 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Watch out, this is an advertisement ! http://hamptonresearch.com/product_detail.aspx?cid=26&sid=145&pid=439 Jürgen On Mar 30, 2011, at 10:24 PM, Jiamu Du wrote: For side by side stereo figures. Thanks. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ingrid Attinost mailto:ingrid_attin...@hotmail.com>> wrote:

Re: [ccp4bb] where to buy stereo glasses for making stereo figures?

2011-03-30 Thread Van Den Berg, Bert
http://hamptonresearch.com/product_detail.aspx?cid=26&sid=145&pid=439 These work pretty well and are cheap. Bert On 3/30/11 10:24 PM, "Jiamu Du" wrote: For side by side stereo figures. Thanks. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ingrid Attinost wrote: Dear Jiamu, What kind of stereo are you

Re: [ccp4bb] where to buy stereo glasses for making stereo figures?

2011-03-30 Thread Jiamu Du
For side by side stereo figures. Thanks. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:42 PM, Ingrid Attinost < ingrid_attin...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Dear Jiamu, > > > What kind of stereo are you refering to? Do you mean anaglyph stereo (like > the kind of stereo used nowadays when watching 3D movines at the theate

Re: [ccp4bb] step refine speed of wincoot - a little drawback of the new interruptible_fit_protein() function in wincoot

2011-03-30 Thread Zhijie Li
Hi Xiaopeng, and those who are using the new interruptible "fit_protein..." or "stepped_refine..." in wincoot 0.6.1: I just took a look at wincoot 0.6.1's fitting.py file (WinCoot\share\coot\python\fitting.py). It seems that in the old "fit_protein()" and "stepped_refine_protein()" functions,

[ccp4bb] where to buy stereo glasses for making stereo figures?

2011-03-30 Thread Jiamu Du
Dear All, I want to buy a stereo glasses for making stereo figures, especially for the labeling. Is there a company sell it? Thanks and best wishes.

[ccp4bb] Copy NCS chain in coot

2011-03-30 Thread zhang yu
Dear all, I have two fold NCS in ASU. I could find phase by molecular replacement, but I have to build other chains by myself, since the model is not complete. During model building in coot, I built one chain in one NCS, and I merged this chain into the previous molecule. Now it is the "chain M'.

Re: [ccp4bb] titering baculovirus ?

2011-03-30 Thread Nathaniel Clark
We don't have a problem getting them to stick to the plates in serum-free media, or in 5% FBS media. The more challenging part is getting the plating density just right, too low and the plaques are too big, to high and they are too small. Or if the cells dry out, or if your agarose overlay is too

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Pavel Afonine
Mark, alternative conformations and associated with them occupancies are to describe the larger scale disorder (the one that goes beyond the B-factor's capability to cope with). Multi-model PDB files is another option. Best, Pavel. On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 2:15 PM, VAN RAAIJ , MARK JOHAN < mjvanra

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread VAN RAAIJ , MARK JOHAN
yet, apart from (and additionally to) modelling two conformations of the side-chain, the B-factor is the only tool we have (now). Quoting Pavel Afonine: > Hi Quyen, > > > (...) And if B-factor is an estimate of thermo-motion (or static disorder), >> then would it not be reasonable to accept th

[ccp4bb] titering baculovirus ?

2011-03-30 Thread Gloria Borgstahl
Hi Guys, we are learning to work with Sf9 cells and Carol in my lab wanted me to ask you the following question. Many thanks for any help, G I need to titer a baculovirus stock in my suspension-adapted Sf9 cells. I know that these can be encouraged to attach better to tissue culture plastic if

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 11:04:30 am James Holton wrote: > perhaps a better name for the "disordered side chain problem" would be > "dark density"? This name would place it properly amongst "dark > matter", "dark energy" and other fudge factors introduced to try and > explain why our "stand

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Pavel Afonine
Hi Quyen, (...) And if B-factor is an estimate of thermo-motion (or static disorder), > then would it not be reasonable to accept that building the side-chain and > let B-factor sky rocket might reflect reality more so than not building it? > NO. Your B-factors are valid within a harmonic (sma

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Mark J van Raaij
I completely agree, although if the IUCr or PDB decides otherwise, I'd be happy to oblige. Mark J van Raaij Laboratorio M-4 Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC c/Darwin 3, Campus Cantoblanco E-28049 Madrid, Spain tel. (+34) 91 585 4616 http://www.cnb.csic.

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Dale Tronrud
Standardization is great! That is why the way we describe positions, occupancy, and B factors has already been standardized. The core of this discussion is that some people want to use these parameters to describe details other than position, occupancy and motion. Since all the parameters on A

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Quyen Hoang
I don't have strong preference either way, but if one has good density for backbone and no density for a corresponding side-chain, would it be reasonable to believe that the side-chain might actually exists and that it has no visible density at a certain contour level might be because it wa

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread James Holton
How about a converter between the two "file formats"? Perhaps something like this: if(occ==1 && B < 30) print; -James Holton MAD Scientist On 3/30/2011 11:30 AM, Mark J van Raaij wrote: perhaps then there should be 2 pdb files for each structure: - a "users" pdb containing "correct" models b

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Frank von Delft
I'm amazed at the pedestal people put their precious coordinates on -- isn't the first thing you learn about MX that our models are rubbish parametrizations of the actual content of the crystal? And thus they will remain as long as we have the R-factor gap, and no amount of coordinate-sigmas

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Mark J van Raaij
perhaps then there should be 2 pdb files for each structure: - a "users" pdb containing "correct" models but tailored for easy use by non-crystallographers - a "depository" pdb containing the "best" model the crystallographers can (or has bothered to) come up with, of course conforming to certain

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread James Holton
I'm afraid this is not a problem that can be solved by "standardization". Fundamentally, if you are a scientist who has collected some data (be it diffraction spot intensities, cell counts, or substrate concentration vs time), and you have built a "model" to explain that data (be it a constel

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Wednesday, March 30, 2011 08:29:11 am Phoebe Rice wrote: > I've now polled 4 fairly savvy "end users" of crystal structures and there > seems to be a consensus: > > - they all know what B is and how to look for regions of high B > (with, say, pymol) and they know not to make firm conclusions

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Filip Van Petegem
Hello Mark, I absolutely agree with this. The worst thing is when everybody is following their own personal rules, and there are no major guidelines for end-users to figure out how to interpret those parts. I assume there are no absolute guidelines simply because there isn't any consensus among

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Jacob Keller
What about setting both the occupancy to 0 *and* setting the b-factors to some special arbitrary number, say, 500? Then people would pick up easily on the side chains being dubious, and the refinement would not be affected by them. Jacob On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Phoebe Rice wrote: > I

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Mark J van Raaij
perhaps the IUCr and/or PDB (Gerard K?) should issue some guidelines along these lines? And oblige us all to follow them? Mark J van Raaij Laboratorio M-4 Dpto de Estructura de Macromoleculas Centro Nacional de Biotecnologia - CSIC c/Darwin 3, Campus Cantoblanco E-28049 Madrid, Spain tel. (+34) 91

Re: [ccp4bb] what to do with disordered side chains

2011-03-30 Thread Phoebe Rice
I've now polled 4 fairly savvy "end users" of crystal structures and there seems to be a consensus: - they all know what B is and how to look for regions of high B (with, say, pymol) and they know not to make firm conclusions about H-bonds to flaming red side chains. - None of them would ever t

Re: [ccp4bb] MR with MD trajectories

2011-03-30 Thread martyn . winn
I agree there are probably much better and simpler ways of doing this. But to answer the question, you could probably use MrBUMP to do this, using the local PDB file option. It will require a bit of scripting to deal with all the file names, and will take forever. Other points: 1) you don't nee

[ccp4bb] update on job Instrument Scientist - Macromolecular Neutron Crystallography at the ESS

2011-03-30 Thread Paul Henry
Dear CCP4 members, The deadline for this position has been extended until the 15th April and the first round of interviews will now be held on the 17th May in Lund, Sweden. Please note that the position is permanent with the organisation rather than a short term contract. Further general inform