Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-04-03 Thread Xiao, Chuan
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Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-04-02 Thread Quyen Hoang
letin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Eugene Valkov <eugene.val...@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2023 10:10 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen   Predicted stru

Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-04-02 Thread Eugene Valkov
ructures. > That’s more damaging than helpful. > > > -- > *From:* CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Eugene > Valkov > *Sent:* Sunday, April 2, 2023 10:10 AM > *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK > *Subject:* Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structur

Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-04-02 Thread jacinto.ls
It has been mentioned that predictions might be misleading when it comes to multi-domain complexes, probably due to the orientation of each domain relative to the others rather than the fold of each domain individually. This is delicate since making a hypothesis based on inaccurate models can

Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-04-02 Thread Srivastava, Dhiraj
, 2023 10:10 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen Predicted structures lack the precision and accuracy of experimentally-determined structures at high resolution with all the benefits of unbiased co-discovery of

Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-04-02 Thread Eugene Valkov
Predicted structures lack the precision and accuracy of experimentally-determined structures at high resolution with all the benefits of unbiased co-discovery of solvent molecules, ions, ligands, etc., bound to molecules of interest. It is also true that AI-assisted structure prediction can be stu

Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-04-02 Thread jacinto.ls
I am also not sure whether AlphaFold can address the impact of ions and other cofactors on the fold of many proteins. Best wishes, Jacinto On 2/4/23 16:20, Srivastava, Dhiraj wrote: May be this article is of some help suggesting the need of experimental structures despite excellent alphafold m

Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-04-02 Thread Srivastava, Dhiraj
May be this article is of some help suggesting the need of experimental structures despite excellent alphafold model. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41401-022-00938-y From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Ian Tickle Sent: Sunday, April 2, 2023 8:28 AM To: CC

Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-04-02 Thread Srivastava, Dhiraj
No offense to anyone but most of these systematic studies are often on small not so flexible, single domain, easy to crystallize proteins with little conformational variability and that’s where alpha fold excel. It fails with (may not be all though) multidomain proteins with conformational varia

Re: [ccp4bb] [External] Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-04-01 Thread Srivastava, Dhiraj
When I tested alpha fold on some of my proteins, it failed to predict the intramolecular interactions needed for their functions. Alphafold predicts the folds and overall structure of single domain and may be simple multi domain proteins but when conformational changes are needed for protein fun