Dear colleagues,
I am suddenly having a problem with starting the ccp4 Interface. Logged on as a
normal user (username, group users) the Interface window pops up but hangs
almost immediately (the top bar says CCP4Interface 2.1.0, the only program
tab shown is Coordinate Utilities and the
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:46:44PM +0100, Kolstoe S.E. wrote:
The most useful aspect of the ccp4i GUI is its automatic generation of
com files. However, I would prefer the GUI to output a .com file into my
working directory (rather than the obscure location they are saved to
now) every time I
Hi
Maybe any parameter setting unchanged from the values in the
$CCP4/ccp4i/tasks/*.def file should be internally flagged as being at
the 'default value' - resulting in them _not_ being written to the
com-file? This way any potential change in defaults inside the actual
program would have
Clemens Vonrhein wrote:
One thing I found very confusing though, is that the com-files created
by the CCP4i will often have (nearly) all possible keywords set, even
if I haven't changed any of the defaults in the gui. Often, a CCP4
program has defaults itself and only requires keywords if one
I would agree with Clemens that the Scala GUI task generates far too
many keyworded commands, for things which have sensible defaults in
the program.
One problem conundrum for the GUI (because it works by generating a
script without actually running the program) is that the GUI has no
Hi Simon,
Well, X-ray crystallography nowadays often, but certainly not always,
amounts to running a set of programs with default settings with a few mouse
clicks in the GUI. The fun part is knowing when you have to deviate from
default, leave the well travelled paths etc.
The GUI is
2007 10:21
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI (was:RE: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors)
Hi Simon,
Well, X-ray crystallography nowadays often, but certainly not always, amounts
to running a set of programs with default settings with a few mouse clicks in
the GUI. The fun part
I would add that I have found the CCP4 development team very receptive
to being informed about specific improvements which could be made, and
even more so to fixes implemented by users themselves.
Perhaps an explicit list of the many limitations which need attention
would be useful to the
: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI
I would add that I have found the CCP4 development team very receptive
to being informed about specific improvements which could be made, and
even more so to fixes implemented by users themselves.
Perhaps an explicit list of the many limitations which need attention
would
The level of detail in the GUI is a matter of constant debate. The
underlying programs are far far richer, so the question is how much to
expose in the GUI. We try to get a balance between ease-of-use and
coverage, but it won't always work. BTW I don't think we ever claimed
that ccp4i (or anything
: jeudi, 10. mai 2007 13:05
À : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI
This is timely. We're in the process of a) trying to organise a major
effort to tidy up the existing ccp4i classic (rather than fire-fighting
problems), and b) thinking about designing the next generation. Not sure
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Hi Martyn,
I was thinking in the less scary widgets-based interface for
not-so-used options. If possible, I think that all options should be
available to the interface. This would make the GUI more consistent, in
a way. I know is a lot more work, but
Miguel Ortiz Lombardia wrote:
I was thinking in the less scary widgets-based interface for
not-so-used options. If possible, I think that all options should be
available to the interface.
My programs at least have a load of options which I put in for the
purposes of testing out ideas, which
Hi Martyn,
I want to second Miguel: a switch between a basic GUI (could be with
even less options) and an advanced and expert GUI that allows
access to most and all options that can be used in scripts would be
absolutely great! It would allow novice users to do a good job on
standard
I always liked Kevin's comments on little-used options in the DM
documentation
Don't use these unless you really know what you are doing. In which
case you'd better have a better idea of what you
are doing than I do.
Phil
On 10 May 2007, at 13:07, Kevin Cowtan wrote:
Miguel Ortiz
The level of detail in the GUI is a matter of constant debate. The
underlying programs are far far richer, so the question is how much to
expose in the GUI.
How about the simple and elegant way it is done in Refmac?
Tacked under Developers Options is specify an external
keyword script file for
Hi Martyn,
how about option c:
in each gui window at the lower left corner have a button called
Display script, or call it Expert Mode if people feel better as
Experts :-) , before running of course. Then people who would like to
edit their stuff could do so before running the script. I
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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI
Hi Martyn,
how about option c:
in each gui window at the lower
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:44:13 -0400
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI
I think a tweak script button or option (before running) would be an
excellent idea.
Cheers,
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Roger S. Rowlett
Professor
Department of Chemistry
Colgate University
13 Oak
Hi Martyn:
I never use the GUI and it scares me, so I probably should just STFU, but
that sort of thing has never kept me from pontificating. I often get
emails from people asking how to do something with the GUI and they don't
believe me, because I've developed a reputation as something of a
Hopefully my offhand remark wasn't taken as a criticism of ccp4i (it
wasn't meant as such); but seeing as I don't use it, it's not a place
where I could tell someone how to find an option.
As developers, we also have to think about long-term maintainability.
Options, in particular little-used
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