Dear colleagues,
I am suddenly having a problem with starting the ccp4 Interface. Logged on as a
normal user ("username", group "users") the Interface window pops up but hangs
almost immediately (the top bar says "CCP4Interface 2.1.0", the only program
tab shown is "Coordinate Utilities" and
Hi all
I have recently installed the ccp4i on my linux system.Whenever. i run any
program,GUI always list the job and show that this job is starting, never
displays that particular job has finished. while, when i give look on the
logfile of the particular job, then this has finished long back.
w
Dear CCP4bb,
The intention with CCP4i GUIs is that those folders which are open by
default (after you have chosen the mode of action from the top protocol
folder) are for everyone and those that are closed by default are for
experts OR difficult cases. Unfortunately that is an OR not an AND; t
I would agree with Clemens that the Scala GUI task generates far too
many keyworded commands, for things which have sensible defaults in
the program.
One problem conundrum for the GUI (because it works by generating a
script without actually running the program) is that the GUI has no
wa
Clemens Vonrhein wrote:
One thing I found very confusing though, is that the com-files created
by the CCP4i will often have (nearly) all possible keywords set, even
if I haven't changed any of the defaults in the gui. Often, a CCP4
program has defaults itself and only requires keywords if one wan
Hi
> Maybe any parameter setting unchanged from the values in the
> $CCP4/ccp4i/tasks/*.def file should be internally flagged as being at
> the 'default value' - resulting in them _not_ being written to the
> com-file? This way any potential change in defaults inside the actual
> program would hav
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:46:44PM +0100, Kolstoe S.E. wrote:
> The most useful aspect of the ccp4i GUI is its automatic generation of
> com files. However, I would prefer the GUI to output a .com file into my
> working directory (rather than the obscure location they are saved to
> now) every time
Hi Martyn & Dirk,
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 02:18:14PM +0200, Dirk Kostrewa wrote:
> I want to second Miguel: a switch between a "basic" GUI (could be with
> even less options) and an "advanced" and "expert" GUI that allows
> access to most and all options that can be used in scripts would be
>
ay will go into
the melting pot for longer term development (my plan b from earlier).
But we do appreciate the ideas and feedback.
Cheers
Martyn
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From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Peter Adrian Meyer
Sent: Thu 5/10/2007 5:37 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: R
Hopefully my offhand remark wasn't taken as a criticism of ccp4i (it
wasn't meant as such); but seeing as I don't use it, it's not a place
where I could tell someone how to find an option.
> As developers, we also have to think about long-term maintainability.
> Options, in particular little-used
Hi Martyn:
I never use the GUI and it scares me, so I probably should just STFU, but
that sort of thing has never kept me from pontificating. I often get
emails from people asking how to do something with the GUI and they don't
believe me, because I've developed a reputation as something of a Ma
y for setting the matrix weight in
Refmac5 to 'auto', as recommended by the authors of ARP/wARP.
Tim
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From: Roger Rowlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:44:13 -0400
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4
oger Rowlett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 10:44:13 -0400
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI
I think a "tweak script" button or option (before running) would be an
excellent idea.
Cheers,
___
Roger S. Row
fax: (315)-228-7935
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From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Juergen Bosch
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 10:40 AM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI
Hi Martyn,
how about option c:
in each gui win
Hi Martyn,
how about option c:
in each gui window at the lower left corner have a button called
"Display script", or call it "Expert Mode" if people feel better as
"Experts" :-) , before running of course. Then people who would like to
edit their stuff could do so before running the script. I
The level of detail in the GUI is a matter of constant debate. The
underlying programs are far far richer, so the question is how much to
expose in the GUI.
How about the simple and elegant way it is done in Refmac?
Tacked under "Developers Options" is "specify an external
keyword script file fo
where everything works than a
complete GUI with questionable parts.
Simon
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Phil Evans
Sent: 10 May 2007 13:58
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI
I always liked Kevin's commen
I always liked Kevin's comments on little-used options in the DM
documentation
"Don't use these unless you really know what you are doing. In which
case you'd better have a better idea of what you
are doing than I do."
Phil
On 10 May 2007, at 13:07, Kevin Cowtan wrote:
Miguel Ortiz Lomb
Many interfaces already have an other parameters folder, see e.g. the
folder "Infrequently Used Parameters" in the Molrep GUI. The request
seems to be to:
a) complete this with more parameters for more programs (taking due note
of Kevin's comment)
b) have a Preferences switch that globally hides
Hi Martyn,
I want to second Miguel: a switch between a "basic" GUI (could be with
even less options) and an "advanced" and "expert" GUI that allows
access to most and all options that can be used in scripts would be
absolutely great! It would allow novice users to do a good job on
"standard"
Miguel Ortiz Lombardia wrote:
I was thinking in the "less scary" widgets-based interface for
not-so-used options. If possible, I think that all options should be
available to the interface.
My programs at least have a load of options which I put in for the
purposes of testing out ideas, which
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Hi Martyn,
I was thinking in the "less scary" widgets-based interface for
not-so-used options. If possible, I think that all options should be
available to the interface. This would make the GUI more consistent, in
a way. I know is a lot more work, bu
nn
Envoyé : jeudi, 10. mai 2007 13:05
À : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Objet : Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI
This is timely. We're in the process of a) trying to organise a major
effort to tidy up the existing ccp4i classic (rather than fire-fighting
problems), and b) thinking about designing the next genera
This is timely. We're in the process of a) trying to organise a major
effort to tidy up the existing ccp4i classic (rather than fire-fighting
problems), and b) thinking about designing the next generation. Not sure
which this is. Option b) would be a project over several years.
Can you elucidate
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Dear all,
I'm a well-known luddite as Eleanor says. However, I shamelessly confess
that the CCP4 GUI is great. Not that I think this is necessary here, I'm
sure most people agree with that.
If I write now is because Martynn's e-mail have reminded me
The level of detail in the GUI is a matter of constant debate. The
underlying programs are far far richer, so the question is how much to
expose in the GUI. We try to get a balance between ease-of-use and
coverage, but it won't always work. BTW I don't think we ever claimed
that ccp4i (or anything
UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI
I would add that I have found the CCP4 development team very receptive
to being informed about specific improvements which could be made, and
even more so to fixes implemented by users themselves.
Perhaps an explicit list of the many limitations which need
I would add that I have found the CCP4 development team very receptive
to being informed about specific improvements which could be made, and
even more so to fixes implemented by users themselves.
Perhaps an explicit list of the many limitations which need attention
would be useful to the deve
Hoedemaeker
Sent: 10 May 2007 10:21
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: [ccp4bb] CCP4 GUI (was:RE: [ccp4bb] Refmac and B factors)
Hi Simon,
Well, X-ray crystallography nowadays often, but certainly not always, amounts
to running a set of programs with default settings with a few mouse clicks in
t
Hi Simon,
Well, X-ray crystallography nowadays often, but certainly not always,
amounts to running a set of programs with default settings with a few mouse
clicks in the GUI. The fun part is knowing when you have to deviate from
default, leave the well travelled paths etc.
The GUI is excellent
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