Re: [ccp4bb] Expert opinion for optimizing ethylene glycol crystallization condition

2013-01-05 Thread Jacob Keller
I have always wondered what the contribution is from the pH-ing counter-ions, because the buffers are always, e.g., Tris-Cl or Na-HEPES. I have often thought it might be more ideal to screen with TRIS-HEPES as the protein buffer, but probably over the years these counter-ions have fortuitously aide

Re: [ccp4bb] Expert opinion for optimizing ethylene glycol crystallization condition

2013-01-04 Thread Cale Dakwar
Shankar, I would suggest to also set up a few plates with your protein in HEPES instead of Tris. I once worked for months trying to improve tiny crystals while my protein was in Tris, pH 7.4, to no avail. I got beautiful crystals when I purified my protein in HEPES, pH 7.4, with everything else

Re: [ccp4bb] Expert opinion for optimizing ethylene glycol crystallization condition

2013-01-04 Thread Sankaranarayanan Srinivasan
Dear all, Thank you very much for all your helpful comments. I will try them and post on the BB my results. Best regards Shankar On Wed, Jan 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM, Sankaranarayanan Srinivasan < texs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear all, > > A very happy new year to all. > > I would appreciate some ex

Re: [ccp4bb] Expert opinion for optimizing ethylene glycol crystallization condition

2013-01-03 Thread Ulrike Demmer
Dear Shankar, I once got crystals with Ethylene glycol as precipitant but at low concentration (8-14%) and there always had been spots right from the beginning. It sometimes happens that you get nice looking crystals but they do not diffract. If you have hits from other conditions may be you sh

Re: [ccp4bb] Expert opinion for optimizing ethylene glycol crystallization condition

2013-01-02 Thread David Briggs
Hi Shankar, I don't claim to be an expert, but I've used ethylene glycol as a cryoprotectant many times, and 30% (v/v) would probably be sufficient for proper freezing without any further addition. Did you try and shoot a crystal at room temperature? Hth, Dave On Jan 2, 2013 5:59 PM, "Sankaranar

Re: [ccp4bb] Expert opinion for optimizing ethylene glycol crystallization condition

2013-01-02 Thread Enrico Stura
Dear Sankaranarayanan Srinivasan Try replacing both glycerol and ethylene glycol by propylene glycol in part or completely. Enrico. On Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:59:21 +0100, Sankaranarayanan Srinivasan wrote: Dear all, A very happy new year to all. I would appreciate some expert advice on op

[ccp4bb] Expert opinion for optimizing ethylene glycol crystallization condition

2013-01-02 Thread Sankaranarayanan Srinivasan
Dear all, A very happy new year to all. I would appreciate some expert advice on optimizing a crystallization condition in which the initial hits were obtained with ethylene glycol as the main precipitant. Here is the summary of things tried. We have a protein, size (31Kda) and the starting prot