[ccp4bb] NCS restraints of domains

2009-01-08 Thread Nicholas Keep
I am refining a low (3A) resolution structure of a 3 domain protein. There are 4 copies in the ASU. I have been applying tight NCS restraints by domain in refmac and have pulled the weak MR solution down to Rfree below 30 (just). However my question is that in 2 of the 4 copies one of the

Re: [ccp4bb] NCS restraints of domains

2009-01-08 Thread Eleanor Dodson
It is worth doing sme rounds of non-NCS restrainded refinement then sending it to the Ethan Merrit server to get TLS groups suggested.. Eleanor Frank von Delft wrote: Two points: 1. B-factors tend to differ lots between NCS copies, so you want to set those restraints rather low (at least, I

Re: [ccp4bb] NCS restraints of domains

2009-01-08 Thread Frank von Delft
Two points: 1. B-factors tend to differ lots between NCS copies, so you want to set those restraints rather low (at least, I always do, by default) 2. NCS groups tend to need a far more fine-grained description than just plonking in the whole domain. For structures in my lab, we often see

Re: [ccp4bb] NCS restraints of domains

2009-01-08 Thread Winn, MD (Martyn)
Sounds like a good candidate for (domain-level) TLS to me. Cheers Martyn -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Nicholas Keep Sent: Thu 1/8/2009 10:54 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] NCS restraints of domains I am refining a low (3A) resolution

Re: [ccp4bb] NCS restraints of domains

2009-01-08 Thread Garib Murshudov
Dear Nick Using TLS sometimes improves behaviour of NCS restraints (it makes sense since remaining B values should be similar). However in other cases it does not improve. Perhaps removal of B value restraints for these domains may improve NCS restrained refinement. I have not done tests