Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-29 Thread Meyer, Peter
e). Not that I disagree with any of your points, thought. Pete -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board on behalf of Konrad Hinsen Sent: Tue 4/29/2008 5:04 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard On Apr 29, 2008, at 11:25, Andreas Förster wrote: >

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-29 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
I usually install crystallographic software as administrator using sudo under /usr/local/xtal and make it readable/executable for all users. This is sufficient in my experience. Best regards, Dirk. Am 29.04.2008 um 12:51 schrieb PhilEvans: I've not found it necessary to activate root. I've

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-29 Thread PhilEvans
I've not found it necessary to activate root. I've installed quite a lot of stuff in /usr/local but found it useful to make /usr/local belong to me (sudo chown -R /usr/local). With fink, I use sudo & not found it inconvenient (you can use "sudo -s" to go into admin mode until further notic

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-29 Thread James Stroud
On Apr 29, 2008, at 2:25 AM, Andreas Förster wrote: Why working with sudo is safer than working as root is not clear to me. After all, the danger is not in root but in the uneducated user. The danger *is* in root, if for no other reason than you must type "sudo" before you issue that comman

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-29 Thread Konrad Hinsen
On Apr 29, 2008, at 11:25, Andreas Förster wrote: Why working with sudo is safer than working as root is not clear to me. After all, the danger is not in root but in the uneducated user. If you're paranoid, you can keep using sudo until you get stuck and then switch to root. There are t

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-29 Thread Tim Gruene
Without having followed this thread, wouldn't the whole procedure you describe also work with 1. Open a terminal 2. type 'sudo passwd root' 3. Enter the current users password (to allow for the sudo-command) 4. Enter the new root password (twice) This should work under all versions of MacOSX.

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-29 Thread Andreas Förster
A few month's back, and a few moments before almost throwing my Powerbook out the window, I enabled the root account, as officially described (http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106290): How to enable the root user Mac OS X 10.5 or later 1. From the Finder's Go menu, choose Uti

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-25 Thread Ian Ollmann
On Apr 25, 2008, at 3:14 PM, William Scott wrote: Yes, that is a general "problem" with sudo, with the latest version distributed in OS X. Briefly, sudo (and I have noticed other programs, like screen) don't inherit the environment, so sudo ccp4i no longer works. sudo -s spawns a root shell

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-25 Thread William Scott
Yes, that is a general "problem" with sudo, with the latest version distributed in OS X. Briefly, sudo (and I have noticed other programs, like screen) don't inherit the environment, so sudo ccp4i no longer works. sudo -s spawns a root shell. Then you can source the environment file, and then

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-25 Thread Patrick Loll
1. I was sourcing /sw/bin/init.csh, so that wasn't the problem...but: 2. I did find the problem (at least for the precompiled version from UC Santa Cruz): For some reason "sudo ccp4i" gave the error message, but just "ccp4i" (without the sudo) worked OK. (Although I thought the first ti

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-25 Thread William Scott
You need to run source /sw/bin/init.sh if you use bash or zsh or source /sw/bin/init.csh if you use tcsh. this will automatically set up the environment variables and then it will do what you want it to (which is to set up the ccp4 environment according to whichever shell you might be us

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-25 Thread Iain Kerr
Oh, you tried the binaries..sorry.. Hmmm..I don't recall having the same problem..I'll have a look at what I've got here. You could always compile it from source code.. Iain Iain Kerr wrote: Patrick, I've not used fink to install ccp4 so can't comment on that, but if you want a quickie wor

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-25 Thread Iain Kerr
Patrick, I've not used fink to install ccp4 so can't comment on that, but if you want a quickie working suite: I downloaded the pre-compiled binaries from the CCP4 ftp site and they work fine. ftp://ftp.ccp4.ac.uk/ccp4/6.0.2/binaries/ Use the Tcl/tk and Blt distributions on the CCP4 websit

[ccp4bb] ccp4 install on Leopard

2008-04-25 Thread Patrick Loll
Accck! 1. I tried to install Bill Scott's precompiled ccp4 on an intel mac running OS X 10.5. When attempting launch ccp4i, I receive this error message: /sw/share/xtal/ccp4-6.0.2/ccp4i/bin/ccp4i: line 4 /bltwish: no such file or directory Typing "which bltwish" returns /sw/bin/bltwis