Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-13 Thread m zhang
Want to thanks to all for your warm suggestions. I haven't finish all the reading suggested here. but will. Thanks,Manqing Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 13:40:39 -0700 From: anna.s.gardb...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Hello, Min.Lithium su

Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-12 Thread Anna Gardberg
Hello, Min. Lithium sulfate is a cryoprotectant at 2.0 M and sometimes even less (much lower than the concentrations needed for ammonium sulfate), so I would try replacing your ammonium sulfate with lithium sulfate, creating a cryoprotectant with 0.5-1.0 M KCl, 1.4-2.0 M LiSO4, at pH 7. You might n

Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-12 Thread R. M. Garavito
; ofc: (315)-228-7395 > fax: (315)-228-7935 > email: rrowl...@colgate.edu > > > On 7/12/2012 12:55 PM, m zhang wrote: >> Hi Jim, >> >> 25% is w/v. Thanks for the information. Will check the webinar. >> >> Thanks, >> Min >> >>

Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-12 Thread Roger Rowlett
Min From: jim.pflugr...@rigaku.com To: mzhang...@hotmail.com; CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:39:56 + Sucrose, sorbitol, Splenda, trehalose, etc, but instead of 25% (is that w/

Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-12 Thread m zhang
Hi Jim, 25% is w/v. Thanks for the information. Will check the webinar. Thanks,Min From: jim.pflugr...@rigaku.com To: mzhang...@hotmail.com; CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: RE: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:39:56 + Sucrose, sorbitol, Splenda, trehalose

Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-10 Thread Craig Bingman
You can sometimes cryoprotect crystals like this with the Mitegen low viscosity cryo oil and their micro mount loops. If that doesn't work, then you can gradually raise the concentration of sucrose or ethylene glycol so that your crystals freeze well. I don't think it should take anything like

Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-10 Thread anna anna
Hi Min, I agree with Christian Roth, try malonate at high concentration, 2.8 molar is enough. I suggest to adjust the pH to about the value of your xtallization condition. To avoyd salt xtals formation, humidify the environment, some wet paper around the drop can do the job! cheers anna 2012/7/1

Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-10 Thread James Holton
A nice review of "cryosalts" is available here: http://dx.doi.org/10.1107/S090744497587 For crystals that "don't seem to survive paratone-N", I recommend using a microscope equipped with a polarizer. The refractive index of paratone-N is much closer to that of protein crystals than that o

Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-10 Thread Jim Pflugrath
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal regaentDear All, I am sure this question was discussed before. But I am wondering if anyone got the same experience as I do. I got a crystal out of condition with 1M KCl, 1.4M Ammonium sulfate at pH7. I tried to use glycerol, ethylene

Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-10 Thread David Schuller
Pressure cryocooling lowers the need for cryoprotectant dramatically. On 07/10/12 12:28, m zhang wrote: regaentDear All, I am sure this question was discussed before. But I am wondering if anyone got the same experience as I do. I got a crystal out of condition with 1M KCl, 1.4M Ammonium sulf

Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-10 Thread Christian Roth
Hi, I have used pure malonate (above 3M) for a similar condition. Sometimes the cryoprotectant alone, without reservoir works quite well Cheers Christian Am Dienstag 10 Juli 2012 18:28:30 schrieb m zhang: > regaentDear All, > I am sure this question was discussed before. But I am wondering

Re: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-10 Thread conan仙人指路
...@hotmail.com Subject: [ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK regaentDear All, I am sure this question was discussed before. But I am wondering if anyone got the same experience as I do. I got a crystal out of condition with 1M KCl, 1.4M Ammonium sulfate at pH7. I tried

[ccp4bb] cryo for high salt crystal

2012-07-10 Thread m zhang
regaentDear All, I am sure this question was discussed before. But I am wondering if anyone got the same experience as I do. I got a crystal out of condition with 1M KCl, 1.4M Ammonium sulfate at pH7. I tried to use glycerol, ethylene glycol, 25% sucrose, paraton-N oil, or ammonium sulfate itse