Re: [ccp4bb] difficult molecular replacement solution

2019-11-13 Thread Eleanor Dodson
Well, trying to solve a MR structure with low homology (20%) and several molecules is always a challenge... Use any information you have. How many molecules are possible/probable given the mol.wt and unit cell? (Matthews coeff gives suggestions..) But remember solvent content can vary from 30% to

Re: [ccp4bb] difficult molecular replacement solution

2019-11-13 Thread Jon Cooper
I am interested to know the resolution on the basis that the better it diffracts, the lower the solvent content, generally. Have you tried Bernard Rupp's server which gives you probabilities for the No mols per AU, partly based on resolution? The LLGs look challenging - I've seen higher ones

Re: [ccp4bb] difficult molecular replacement solution

2019-11-13 Thread Phoebe A. Rice
mber 13, 2019 at 8:33 AM To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" Subject: [ccp4bb] difficult molecular replacement solution I have been working on a protein structure which has been hard to solve by molecular replacement. Unit cell: (60.6, 172.34, 196.42, 90, 90, 90) Space group: P 21 21 2

Re: [ccp4bb] difficult molecular replacement solution

2019-11-13 Thread Tanner, John J.
Dear Rob, Based on our experience with difficult MR cases, I recommend performing refinement on the coordinates from MR (I prefer PHENIX simulated annealing for this step). Then send the refined map - WITHOUT the model - to automated building with density modification. The auto-built model may

Re: [ccp4bb] difficult molecular replacement solution

2019-11-13 Thread David J. Schuller
Have you looked at a self-rotation function? Those can sometimes be very useful in deciphering multiplicity. On 2019-11-13 09:33, Robert S Phillips wrote: I have been working on a protein structure which has been hard to solve by molecular replacement. Unit cell: (60.6, 172.34, 196.42, 90,

Re: [ccp4bb] difficult molecular replacement solution

2019-11-13 Thread Kay Diederichs
Hi Rob, the answer to the question "how many molecules are in the ASU?" is only available after satisfactory model building and refinement. The Phaser results that you show indeed suggest 6 mols/ASU, but they don't prove it. If I were you, I'd give the 6-molecule solution the highest priority,

Re: [ccp4bb] difficult molecular replacement solution

2019-11-13 Thread Roger Rowlett
Look at the chain packing in your solution. If the solution is grossly correct you will notice nice solvent channels and no glaring chain-size holes and no gross overlaps. The initial maps should look sensible, if noisy. If the protein is composed of likely dimers, try a search with dimer units

[ccp4bb] difficult molecular replacement solution

2019-11-13 Thread Robert S Phillips
I have been working on a protein structure which has been hard to solve by molecular replacement. Unit cell: (60.6, 172.34, 196.42, 90, 90, 90) Space group: P 21 21 21 The problem is that the homologues have only ~20% identity, and there are multiple chains in the asymmetric unit. The