[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] malonate and histidine interaction

2021-08-23 Thread Schreuder, Herman /DE
would have reacted, this should occur in non-malonate conditions as well. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board Im Auftrag von Ana Ebrecht Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. August 2021 13:14 An: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Betreff: Re: [ccp4bb] malonate and histidine interaction Hello Jon, Thanks

Re: [ccp4bb] malonate and histidine interaction

2021-08-19 Thread Wim Burmeister
Hello Ana, it looks very much like a covalent bond with the His. You may get some hints from the chemistry of the reaction, which is normally catalysed. Are there possible side products involving malonate, alternative substrates present in the buffer etc ?

Re: [ccp4bb] malonate and histidine interaction

2021-08-18 Thread Jon Cooper
No problem, it would be interesting to refine it as a tricarboxy methane amide of the His imidazole. More info on 2-carboxyl malonic acid here: https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Methanetricarboxylic-acid Cheers, Jon.C. Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message On

Re: [ccp4bb] malonate and histidine interaction

2021-08-18 Thread Ana Ebrecht
Hello Jon, Thanks for the comments. Yes, the His is part of the active site, and the distances are very close, like a covalent bond. That's why I was wondering if the malonate can be bound to the His. We tried to model the malonate in the different conformation, but that didn't work. But I'll

Re: [ccp4bb] malonate and histidine interaction

2021-08-17 Thread Jon Cooper
Hello, only other thought was that malonate might be binding in two conformations, i.e. dual occupancy, and did you use a protease inhibitor cocktail, since the constituents can react? The density looks a bit like citrate, but too close to the His. I couldn't read the distances to the His in

Re: [ccp4bb] malonate and histidine interaction

2021-08-17 Thread Ana Ebrecht
Hi Jon, Thanks for the reply. I don't think this is acetylation, because I only see this density in the crystals that grew with malonate. In other conditions doesn't show anything like that. So I thought it'd be the malonate. But I'll check on that. Thanks for the suggestion. Kind regards Ana On

Re: [ccp4bb] malonate and histidine interaction

2021-08-16 Thread Jon Cooper
Hello, could the His be partially acetylated? Best wishes Jon.C. Sent from ProtonMail mobile Original Message On 16 Aug 2021, 14:52, Ana Ebrecht wrote: > Dear all, > > I am building the structure of a protein that was crystallized in 0.2 M > sodium malonate pH 5.0, 20% w/v

[ccp4bb] malonate and histidine interaction

2021-08-16 Thread Ana Ebrecht
Dear all, I am building the structure of a protein that was crystallized in 0.2 M sodium malonate pH 5.0, 20% w/v polyethylene glycol 3,350. During the refinement, we found what we think is a malonate molecule in the active site, but it seems like is bound somehow to the histidine (this His is