Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 22:30:54 +
From: CCP4 bulletin board CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK (on behalf of Jan
Löwe j...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] while on the subject of stereo
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Ah! The question of to stereo or not to stereo! There has to be a
scientific
, 1 Mar 2011 22:30:54 +
From: CCP4 bulletin board CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK (on behalf of Jan Löwe
j...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] while on the subject of stereo
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Ah! The question of to stereo or not to stereo! There has to be a
scientific reason
Hi Dave,
We recently equipped a pool of 25 computers with Nvidia 3D shutter
glasses, they're used in structural biology courses for undergraduate
students of biochemistry . We teach mainly PyMOL, but (in an advanced
course) also model building in COOT. Of course, we let the students
decide
I think the weight of the shutter glasses puts them off. Compared to the 30g or
less of the Zalmans the shutter glasses feel like bricks. I would estimate
them to at least 270g. After one hour wearing them you feel them on your nose.
Jürgen
..
Jürgen Bosch
Johns Hopkins
Those must be older ones... The current Nvidia shutter glasses we use
are about 50g.
http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/product_GeForce_3D_VisionKit_uk.html
Christoph
Jürgen Bosch wrote:
I think the weight of the shutter glasses puts them off. Compared to the 30g or
less of the Zalmans the
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Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] while on the subject of stereo
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Ah! The question of to stereo or not to stereo! There has to be a
scientific reason why this question is more popular than asking for what
Linux distro is more
what about the fashion statement made by cool glasses?
From: Phoebe Rice [pr...@uchicago.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:16 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] while on the subject of stereo
My 2 cents worth on the stereo-dependent:
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what about the fashion statement made by cool glasses?
From: Phoebe Rice [pr...@uchicago.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 10:16 PM
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] while on the subject of stereo
My 2 cents worth on the stereo
Dear Dave,
Here come my five pence...
I personally found stereo graphics useful in two cases.
1. When you first introduce students to biomolecular
structure and/or biocrystallography. Showing stereo
certainly helps 'building up' the initial fascination,
which is very important of course. But
On Wed, 2011-03-02 at 19:23 -0500, David Roberts wrote:
What I am really looking for is an answer to a
simple question in that is stereo a nice thing from a pedagogy
standpoint for showing students complex biomolecules.
Of course it is. Exactly how much excitement it generates among the
My take on things is that the helpfulness of stereo depends inversely on
the resolution (and/or quality) of the data. If I'm dealing with a 4-5
Angstrom map, stereo is more or less required. For high quality 2-3
Angstrom data, not so much.
For teaching purposes, it's probably a good idea to
Thanks for the comments, I do appreciate them. I guess we went off in a
direction I wasn't thinking of - related to your personal like or
dislike of stereo. What I am really looking for is an answer to a
simple question in that is stereo a nice thing from a pedagogy
standpoint for showing
I will offer my view.
I hate stereo glasses and hate stereo in general.
One should be able to see 3D from the depth-cueing and by keeping the view
in motion. For fitting, I like to flip the view by 90 degrees. I know I am
going to move in displayX and displayY, but never in displayZ. I then
Ah! The question of to stereo or not to stereo! There has to be a
scientific reason why this question is more popular than asking for what
Linux distro is more fashionable this spring or why an Rmerge of 0.90 in
the outermost shell is good for you and your structure.
I am offering my two
Jim Pflugrath wrote:
One should be able to see 3D from the depth-cueing and by keeping the view
in motion.
Don't ever use stereo glasses in a public seminar.
putting the molecule in motion is a good way to let the audience see 3D.
I like to make a small animated gif (rocking gif) which
I heard somewhere that the reason chickens (which have eyes on
the opposite sides of their heads, giving binocular vision a
different meaning) bob their heads up and down is to get a 3D
perspective.
Check out egrets when they are fishing--definitely triangulating,
maybe
Hi David,
This has already been done with PyMOL. There's a video at:
http://molviz.cs.toronto.edu/molviz/
and the code is downloadable.
The stereo effect isn't so great with both eyes open, but I do think there is
potential for use of head or object tracking as a means of controlling
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