resurrecting the Intel iAPX-432 32-bit microprocessor

2015-07-21 Thread Nigel Williams
I changed the subject line since unless you recognise 43201 others might not make the connection :-) > On 22 Jul 2015, at 4:18 pm, Eric Smith wrote: > now, I have just wired up the 43201 on a breadboard in microcode ROM > dump mode, and captured the ROM contents using a logic analyzer. > Photos:

Dumping Intel 43201 microcode ROM

2015-07-21 Thread Eric Smith
Previously I posted photos of a Zilog Z8-02 MPD running a copy of the Z8671 BASIC subset ROM code on a breadboard. The Z8-02 was packaged in a ceramic leadless QUIP package, and I have only one good QUIP socket, so I made an adapter that the QUIP socket can plug into, which then has a very wide 64-

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Tothwolf
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015, Mike Stein wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015, Tothwolf wrote: On Tue, 21 Jul 2015, Mike Stein wrote: FWIW I'm certainly not about to spend 100s of dollars, not to mention time spent in sourcing and replacing, to replace the caps in systems 100s? Where are you sourcing your comp

Re: MEM11 Update

2015-07-21 Thread Guy Sotomayor
Made a lot of progress today. I just wrote a "hello world" program and got it working so the UART output shows up on the simulator. Took a bit more work as there were a couple of subtle bugs lurking in paths I hadn't fully exercised previously (it's the nature of things). It was more complicat

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Mike Stein
- Original Message - From: "Tothwolf" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 9:46 PM Subject: Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved On Tue, 21 Jul 2015, Mike Stein wrote: ... FWIW I'm certainly not about to spend 100s of dollars, not to mentio

RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Tothwolf
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015, tony duell wrote: On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Tothwolf wrote: Yes, the grid cap would /usually/ be a non-polarized wax paper type, which tend to be very unreliable. I've yet to find a wax paper type which will pass a leak test and those are also on my replace on sight list. Of

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/21/2015 06:56 PM, Tothwolf wrote: I've often wondered why they even bother to put that polarity stripe on modern film parts when it doesn't actually indicate the outside foil terminal. Maybe this is something that has become lost knowledge to manufacturers over the years to the point where

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/21/2015 06:46 PM, Tothwolf wrote: I dunno about that. When I've done commercial boards such as industrial process controllers and CPUs for customers with nearly unlimited funds, I charged the customer based on an hourly rate. Since I use a vacuum desoldering tool, changing out 10-15 alumin

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Tothwolf
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote: On Jul 20, 2015, at 18:02 , Tothwolf wrote: I replace wax paper types with polyester (mylar), polystyrene or ceramic discs, depending on how they are used in the circuit (note however that for wound foil types, modern replacement parts do not mark th

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Tothwolf
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015, ben wrote: On 7/21/2015 9:04 AM, Lyle Bickley wrote: IMHO, these "white papers" indicating that ALL aluminum electrolytic capacitors decay is obvious nonsense - based on real life experience - not someones theory... The whole problem with the caps is the water between foi

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Tothwolf
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015, Mike Stein wrote: I suspect that the real criterion for whether to shotgun-replace caps is who is paying/getting paid for the materials and labour ;-). I dunno about that. When I've done commercial boards such as industrial process controllers and CPUs for customers with

RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Peter Coghlan
Rich Alderson wrote: > >From: Peter Coghlan >Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 1:27 AM > >> Rich Alderson wrote: > It is generally a good idea to re-form electrolytic capacitors in power supplies, and to bench check the power supplies (under some kind of load) before actually applying

RE: Two Rescues, Too much stuff to add to the project list...

2015-07-21 Thread Jay West
Since you have the HP-85, I'll mention this: http://www.vintagecomputers.freeserve.co.uk/hp85/prm85.htm I have one... it's the ultimate for HP-85 owners. J -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Earl Baugh Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 2:11 PM

Re: Two Rescues, Too much stuff to add to the project list...

2015-07-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 7/21/15 12:10 PM, Earl Baugh wrote: Folks, 4x Otrona Attache's (and a huge plastic tub of original replacement parts... a first look indicates enough to build at least 1 more machine) Some of these have the 8086 accessory board that allows it to run MS-DOS (along with the CPU it normally r

Re: MEM11 Update

2015-07-21 Thread Guy Sotomayor
On 7/21/15 10:23 AM, Henk Gooijen wrote: -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Guy Sotomayor Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 11:04 PM To: General@main.local ; Discussion@main.local:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: MEM11 Update As I mentioned previously, I took some time off from working on

Two Rescues, Too much stuff to add to the project list...

2015-07-21 Thread Earl Baugh
Folks, With the help of my local rescue buddy (Jeff) we had a pretty busy week rescuing a big chunk of things from basements. (and saw a lots of other interesting things... a 90% assembled Rutan EZ in one basement and a very cool, oscilloscope that would probably have have had a lot of folks drool

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread ben
On 7/21/2015 9:04 AM, Lyle Bickley wrote: IMHO, these "white papers" indicating that ALL aluminum electrolytic capacitors decay is obvious nonsense - based on real life experience - not someones theory... The whole problem with the caps is the water between foil. As modern caps use more and mo

Re: MEM11 Update

2015-07-21 Thread Henk Gooijen
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: Guy Sotomayor Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 11:04 PM To: General@main.local ; Discussion@main.local:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: MEM11 Update As I mentioned previously, I took some time off from working on the MEM11 for the past several months. I had

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 21/07/2015 06:14, Eric Smith wrote: On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Rich Alderson wrote: industry white papers with tables of decay rates for the aluminum electrolytics that indicate that, *no matter what*, they lose capacitance over time, until c. 14 years from manufacturer date they are a

Re: MEM11 Update

2015-07-21 Thread Guy Sotomayor
On 7/21/15 6:25 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: It was interesting to re-read your original message; I and a couple of other people are looking into doing a QBUS card to provide access to modern non-volatile storage (SD cards, USB thumb drives), and in discussing the internal design, we'd planned on an

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Mike Stein
- Original Message - From: "Tothwolf" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 10:03 PM ... I too am getting tired of repeating the same thing over and over; compiling this sort of information in a single location might be helpful. As it happens I am getting tired of _reading_ the same thing

Re: Beaglebone Black rev B sale

2015-07-21 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Al Kossow wrote: > http://www.microcenter.com/product/430528/BeagleBone_Black# > > There aren't any stores in the SF Bay area, so this won't do me > any good, and it isn't clear how many are available. My local Micro Center is the main store. I just checked - the

Re: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Lyle Bickley
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015 23:14:36 -0600 Eric Smith wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Rich Alderson > wrote: > > industry white papers with tables of decay rates for > > the aluminum electrolytics that indicate that, *no matter what*, they lose > > capacitance over time, until c. 14 years from

RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread dwight
> From: a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved > Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2015 14:35:52 + > > > > > Be careful, static daamge does not always show up at the time. You can > damage an IC, have it work for some time afterwards and then fail.

Re: MEM11 Update

2015-07-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Guy Sotomayor > I took some time off from working on the MEM11 ... I had some time over > the past few days, so I spent it working on the simulator. Excellent news! > Right now all of the J1 instructions seem to simulate properly. I had to go hunt up your original messa

Front Panel update

2015-07-21 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Guys As usual I try to keep you updated on front panel progress. (Always supposing I know where I am!!) I now have _prototype_ white seperation artwork for four front PDP8 panels 1. pdp8/e Type A 2. pdp8/e Type B 3. pdp8/f 4. pdp8/m I am doing all four together as they

Beaglebone Black rev B sale

2015-07-21 Thread Al Kossow
http://www.microcenter.com/product/430528/BeagleBone_Black# There aren't any stores in the SF Bay area, so this won't do me any good, and it isn't clear how many are available.

RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread tony duell
> > > But yes, selenium rectifiers rarely work now (although there are exceptions) > > and when they fail they can take out the mains transformer. And they smell > > horrible (think of school dinner cabbage!) > > Huh? All devices with selenium rectifiers that I/we own are OK. And a > selenium rec

RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Christian Corti
On Tue, 21 Jul 2015, tony duell wrote: But yes, selenium rectifiers rarely work now (although there are exceptions) and when they fail they can take out the mains transformer. And they smell horrible (think of school dinner cabbage!) Huh? All devices with selenium rectifiers that I/we own are O

RE: PDP 11 gear finally moved

2015-07-21 Thread Christian Corti
On Mon, 20 Jul 2015, Rich Alderson wrote: the aluminum electrolytics that indicate that, *no matter what*, they lose capacitance over time, until c. 14 years from manufacturer date they are at 10% of rating. Please excuse me, but this is utter nonsense. Most electrolytics in our machines are