RE: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Michael Holley
I worked for the FutureNet division of Data I/O in the late 1980s. One disastrous product was a UNIX based coprocessor system that plugged into an IBM PC/AT. The idea was to run circuit board layout software and simulation on a PC. This would be less expensive than the Daisy, Mentor, or Valid

Re: Vt 103 / lsi 11/23 marketed as a desktop late 1980

2016-04-21 Thread Jerome H. Fine
>william degnan wrote: Prior to the DEC Rainbow, Chrislin Industries was marketing the 11/23 with vt103 as a desktop computer. This is a 3rd party vendor. Maybe they were on to something... Back around 1988, one of my customers had a few VT103 systems with just an RX02 for storage. A 3rd

Ibm s-100 system?

2016-04-21 Thread william degnan
Byte Jan 1981 page 204 refers to an IBM S-100 microcomputer system IBM demoed in Europe. Anyone here seen this machine or heard about it? Bill Degnan twitter: billdeg vintagecomputer.net

Re: Vt 103 / lsi 11/23 marketed as a desktop late 1980

2016-04-21 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: >>william degnan wrote: >> Prior to the DEC Rainbow, Chrislin Industries was marketing the 11/23 with >> vt103 as a desktop computer. This is a 3rd party vendor. Maybe they >> were on to something... >> > Back around

Re: Ibm s-100 system?

2016-04-21 Thread Paul Berger
On 2016-04-21 8:49 PM, william degnan wrote: Byte Jan 1981 page 204 refers to an IBM S-100 microcomputer system IBM demoed in Europe. Anyone here seen this machine or heard about it? Bill Degnan twitter: billdeg vintagecomputer.net Interesting I had never heard of that , but there prediction

Re: Ibm s-100 system?

2016-04-21 Thread Guy Sotomayor
Nothing I ever heard of and I was in IBM Boca at the time and would have heard *something* about it. TTFN - Guy > On Apr 21, 2016, at 4:49 PM, william degnan wrote: > > Byte Jan 1981 page 204 refers to an IBM S-100 microcomputer system IBM > demoed in Europe. Anyone here

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Michael Thompson
> > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 20:08:56 -0400 > From: Toby Thain > Subject: Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - > was Re: SGI ONYX > > On 2016-04-20 8:02 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: > > > > I have a quad-860 VME board for Sun systems in my

Vt 103 / lsi 11/23 marketed as a desktop late 1980

2016-04-21 Thread william degnan
Prior to the DEC Rainbow, Chrislin Industries was marketing the 11/23 with vt103 as a desktop computer. This is a 3rd party vendor. Maybe they were on to something... Bill Degnan twitter: billdeg vintagecomputer.net

Re: Z80 /WAIT signal question

2016-04-21 Thread John Robertson
I do know that the Wait signal was used by the Fluke 90 tester so it could be clamped on top of an in circuit Z80 and run memory and I/O tests while the CPU was doing its regular operations. On vacation so haven't easy access to the operators manual for the Fluke 90 though... John :-#)# > On

Re: Z80 /WAIT signal question

2016-04-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/21/2016 12:36 PM, Eric Smith wrote: A friend building a Z80 system asked me about whether the Z80 /WAIT signal has any effect during machine cycles that aren't memory/IO/intack cycles (i.e., neither /MREQ and /IORQ asserted). The user manual only describes the use of /WAIT for adding wait

Re: Resolved: VAX-11/750 ECKAL (Cache/TB) Diagnostic failure

2016-04-21 Thread Josh Dersch
And to reply to my own mail: The issue was an improperly installed TU80 controller (it wasn't me!). The NPG jumper was not removed from the backplane when the card was installed. So: Double-check your grants, even when testing something seemingly unrelated, like your cache. Lesson

Resolved: VAX-11/750 ECKAL (Cache/TB) Diagnostic failure

2016-04-21 Thread Josh Dersch
Hey all -- I resolved the weird failure I was seeing on my 11/750 with the Cache/TB diagnostic and since it was fairly random I thought I'd share it to save people from the future (hi, people from the future!) from going through the same machinations I did. Issue: ECKAL diagnostic loads,

Re: shell accounts [was RE: strangest systems I've sent email from]

2016-04-21 Thread John Willis
On Thursday, April 21, 2016, Tony Aiuto wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 1:45 PM, John Willis > > wrote: > > > > > > > > That's another thing I remember and miss from those days... your > > average > > > > ISP would provide NNTP

Re: shell accounts [was RE: strangest systems I've sent email from]

2016-04-21 Thread Tony Aiuto
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 1:45 PM, John Willis wrote: > > > > > That's another thing I remember and miss from those days... your > average > > > ISP would provide NNTP and UNIX shell accounts, as well as a few megs > of > > > space to put up a personal web site in

Re: CDC 6600/Cyber 73 Memories - WAS: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 21, 2016, at 7:33 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > ... >> Neat. PLATO made extensive use of ECS, swapping per-terminal state >> and programs in and out of ECS for fast interactive service. ECS was >> also where most I/O buffers went, with PPUs doing disk and terminal >>

Re: CDC 6600/Cyber 73 Memories - WAS: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 21, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Rich Alderson > wrote: > > From: Paul Koning > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 11:48 AM > >> I don't think there are any Cyber 70 (CDC 6000 series) systems still >> running, but there's one in emulation, running PLATO. See

Re: CDC 6600/Cyber 73 Memories - WAS: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 04/21/2016 01:36 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > >> On Apr 21, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: >> >> ... Ten was a number that figured into various aspects. The clock >> was nomially 10 MHz; > > In serial numbers 1-7 only nominally -- the clock was a ring > oscillator,

Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 4/21/16 12:38 PM, Kyle Owen wrote: > I'd be happy to dump the microcode/PROMs when I get some time, perhaps over > the summer. > > Kyle > thanks. I just saw the panels, so I'll pull them out for pics

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Paul Berger
On 2016-04-21 7:29 PM, Dave Wade wrote: -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Guy Sotomayor Sent: 21 April 2016 22:39 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: High performance coprocessor

Re: Using a Gotek-type flash floppy emulator inside a C1581

2016-04-21 Thread drlegendre .
Have you tried the #c-64 channel on ircnet? It's fairly well-populated, with a lot of knowledgeable folks and demo-scene types around. I'm sure someone there can assist you with the specifics. I for one have never involved myself in the SD / IEC stuff. I seem to do just fine with emulators and

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, Guy Sotomayor wrote: > 3270 terminals are what are termed CUT terminals (can?t remember what the > acronym means) but were connected to a controller via coax. Ah okay. Someone told me that the voltage on those was enough to feel/shock you. Was that true, or just a myth ? >

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Paul Berger
On 2016-04-21 6:53 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, Paul Berger wrote: No the 3270 PC and 3270 AT where a special configuration for 3270 terminal emulation it conatined a special keyboard with more keys that the normal keyboard and connected to a special adapter card in the system.

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Guy Sotomayor
> On Apr 21, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, Paul Berger wrote: >> No the 3270 PC and 3270 AT where a special configuration for 3270 terminal >> emulation it conatined a special keyboard with more keys that the normal >> keyboard and

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Guy Sotomayor
> On Apr 21, 2016, at 2:44 PM, Paul Berger wrote: > > > > There was definitely a XT/370 and likely an AT/370 as well the processor on > the the 370 card in these machines was rumoured to be a modified Motorola 68K > with special microcode to execute 370 instructions.

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, Paul Berger wrote: > No the 3270 PC and 3270 AT where a special configuration for 3270 terminal > emulation it conatined a special keyboard with more keys that the normal > keyboard and connected to a special adapter card in the system. I never understood the dynamics of 3720

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Paul Berger
On 2016-04-21 6:35 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Ali wrote: Actually, the first one was called XT/370 because it plugged into an XT! Then came AT/370. Those were obviously ISA boards. Then came some variants that were microchannel. The final

RE: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Ali
> > I think you're thinking of the 3270 PC and 3270 AT, which was pretty > much what you described here... > > - Josh Josh, So I am. Thanks for the clarification. BTW: for those wanting more info on the AT/370 here is a good link to some IBM brochures -

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Guy Sotomayor
> On Apr 21, 2016, at 2:35 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Ali wrote: > >>> Actually, the first one was called XT/370 because it plugged into an >>> XT! >>> Then came AT/370. Those were obviously ISA boards. Then came some

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Josh Dersch
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Ali wrote: > > Actually, the first one was called XT/370 because it plugged into an > > XT! > > Then came AT/370. Those were obviously ISA boards. Then came some > > variants that were microchannel. The final iterations were PCI based. > >

RE: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Ali
> Actually, the first one was called XT/370 because it plugged into an > XT! > Then came AT/370. Those were obviously ISA boards. Then came some > variants that were microchannel. The final iterations were PCI based. > Guy, I am not sure about the other systems but my understanding of the

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Guy Sotomayor
> On Apr 21, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: > > > On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, Guy Sotomayor wrote: >> Let?s not also forget the various 370 and 390 co-processor boards that >> could be put into PC?s at various times to allow one to turn the PC into a >> small mainframe

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Josh Dersch
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:22 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Josh Dersch > > > It's actually a SCSI device the size of a refrigerator. > > Given all the largish machines you have, you must have either i) a > warehouse, > or ii) a very large basement and a

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Josh Dersch > It's actually a SCSI device the size of a refrigerator. Given all the largish machines you have, you must have either i) a warehouse, or ii) a very large basement and a tolerant SO! :-) Noel

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, Guy Sotomayor wrote: > Let?s not also forget the various 370 and 390 co-processor boards that > could be put into PC?s at various times to allow one to turn the PC into a > small mainframe capable of running mainframe software (including the OS). I can't forget because I

RE: CDC 6600/Cyber 73 Memories - WAS: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Paul Koning Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 11:48 AM > I don't think there are any Cyber 70 (CDC 6000 series) systems still > running, but there's one in emulation, running PLATO. See cyber1.org. > It even has emulated console tubes... I can't speak to Cyber 70 systems, but the 6500 at LCM

Re: CDC 6600/Cyber 73 Memories - WAS: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 21, 2016, at 3:55 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > ... > Ten was a number that figured into various aspects. The clock was > nomially 10 MHz; In serial numbers 1-7 only nominally -- the clock was a ring oscillator, tuned by tweaking wire lengths. Starting with serial

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Guy Sotomayor
There was also an 80286 coprocessor board for various VAXen. Let’s not also forget the various 370 and 390 co-processor boards that could be put into PC’s at various times to allow one to turn the PC into a small mainframe capable of running mainframe software (including the OS). TTFN - Guy >

Re: CDC 6600/Cyber 73 Memories - WAS: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 04/21/2016 11:04 AM, Rick Bensene wrote: > I think that you were remembering the console of one of the Control > Data 6000/Cyber-70 series computers that you may have seen somewhere. > This series of Control Data machines were famous for their consoles > with two large, round, green-phosphor

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
Would the Palantir 68K ISA OCR boards be considered as high-performance? There was also, IIRC, a NSC 32016 board made by someone. --Chuck

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 8:27 PM, Toby Thain wrote: > On 2016-04-20 11:10 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > >> ... >> Ok, this one's from the 70s, and it's a large, external unit rather than >> a single board, but I have a Floating Point Systems AP-120B, essentially >> an array

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread ethan
I used to have this thing called a MasPar MP-2. It hung from a Decstation 5000 IIRC. Had the whole system, but the PSU in the MasPar box went bad. Sold it to someone in Florida IIRC. -- Ethan O'Toole

Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Kyle Owen
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 1:36 PM, Al Kossow wrote: > > I have two front panels for a similar system. > Think you could take some pictures? The lone picture I have of the H800 isn't a close-up of the panel, and I'd very much like to see what it looks like up close. It is a

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-04-21 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, John Willis wrote: > I loved being able to do finger @host and then use talk to chat with other > people. Me, too! That was a great feature. I'd finger '@' some server that my classmates used and then use talk or ytalk to figure out how to do our homework etc... People who

Using a Gotek-type flash floppy emulator inside a C1581

2016-04-21 Thread Eric Christopherson
I wonder if there are any Commodore people out here who could tell me what practical differences would result from using a Gotek-type flash-memory-based floppy emulator in place of the C1581's mechanism, vs. using Jim Brain's uIEC-SD or similar. I don't know if the thing would even work in a 1581

Re: CDC 6600/Cyber 73 Memories - WAS: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 21, 2016, at 2:04 PM, Rick Bensene wrote: > > ... > The machine was an all-transistor design, based on the CDC 6600 > processor. It was liquid cooled, and had a large cooler unit that sat > with the machine that cooled the coolant (water) and circulated it > through

RE: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-04-21 Thread Dave Wade
Well the first E-Mail I sent was from a Honeywell L66/60 running GCOS and TSS sometime around 1985. Aberdeen University had written a "Greybook" mailer in "B". Greybook was basically RFC822 e-mail with three modifications: - 1. It used revered "big endian" names, so "uk.ac.nerc" as opposed to the

Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 4/20/16 11:07 PM, Raymond Wiker wrote: > I was a bit surprised to see that it used 2901 with a date code of 1985 - > the 2901 was introduced 10 years before. > I designed a microcoded 12-bit graphics processor in 1985 using them. They were the thing to use until CMOS bit-slices came out

Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 4/20/16 9:21 PM, Kyle Owen wrote: > I seem to have acquired a few boards from a decommissioned system. it also would be a good thing to dump proms/microcode from them.

Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 4/20/16 9:21 PM, Kyle Owen wrote: > I seem to have acquired a few boards from a decommissioned system. Don't > know what I'll do with these for now, other than maybe hang them up for > display purposes...unless someone has one, what else can one do? > I have two front panels for a similar

RE: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-04-21 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, Rich Alderson wrote: > Yes, and if you'd actually paid attention to what they were teaching you, > instead of whinging about commercial viability Well, let's keep things non-personal and civil and agree to disagree. If you knew me better, I doubt you'd say this. It'd just

CDC 6600/Cyber 73 Memories - WAS: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Rick Bensene
Mark J. Blair wrote: > I also seem to remember an operator's console with two round CRTs on it, > but I might have fabricated that memory from whole cloth. > I think that you were remembering the console of one of the Control Data 6000/Cyber-70 series computers that you may have seen somewhere.

RE: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-04-21 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Swift Griggs Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 9:11 AM > I'm not saying everything was perfect in the 80's or 90's. I mean, some CS > professors in the 90's were teaching Oberon, LISP dialects, or Smalltalk. Yes, and if you'd actually paid attention to what they were teaching you, instead of

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-04-21 Thread John Willis
> > Yep. I miss that too. I used to run such an ISP in the 90's and we did > exactly as you say. We also ran a finger servers everywhere (and no, not > one with a bunch of security problems). People used to use that in cool > ways, too (bots, cool services, vending machine interfaces, etc..).

shell accounts [was RE: strangest systems I've sent email from]

2016-04-21 Thread Rich Alderson
From: John Willis Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2016 8:02 AM > That's another thing I remember and miss from those days... your average > ISP would provide NNTP and UNIX shell accounts, as well as a few megs of > space to put up a personal web site in ~/public_html. I still read Usenet newsgroups

Z80 /WAIT signal question

2016-04-21 Thread Eric Smith
A friend building a Z80 system asked me about whether the Z80 /WAIT signal has any effect during machine cycles that aren't memory/IO/intack cycles (i.e., neither /MREQ and /IORQ asserted). The user manual only describes the use of /WAIT for adding wait states, so I expect it probably only affects

Re: [OT] Alternatives to eBay

2016-04-21 Thread Peter Cetinski
> I've never seen a Craigslist ad that talked about shipping. Really, it's > local-only. > I’ve purchased quite a few computers from across the country via Craigslist. Just be upfront with the seller and ask if they would be willing to ship. I always specify “are you willing to drop this

Re: [OT] Alternatives to eBay

2016-04-21 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:07:42AM -0400, et...@757.org wrote: > Craigslist buyers and sellers can be FLAKY, and at same time you can meet > some awesome people through it (through the buying and selling of stuff, not > including all the personals stuff.) That's my experience. Often people don't

Re: ND-10 software - Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Raymond Wiker
> On 21 Apr 2016, at 14:43 , Mattis Lind wrote: > >>> >>> Hey, this is useful. >>> Thanks for doing it! >> >> Yep! >> Already investigating. IMD gave me some trouble, had to resort to >> dosbox. Source for PED (Programmer's Editor) version G? I've never >> seen source. I

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-04-21 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Extreme Mailing > > What is the most unusual place you have sent mail from? Lake Hoare, Dry Valleys, Antarctica, November, 1995, after I installed a Ritron "radio phone" and a dialup modem at the Field

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-04-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 04/21/2016 08:01 AM, John Willis wrote: > That's another thing I remember and miss from those days... your > average ISP would provide NNTP and UNIX shell accounts, as well as a > few megs of space to put up a personal web site in ~/public_html. In fact, that's what the Internet used to

VMS consulting gig?

2016-04-21 Thread Jay West
I have an associate that is working with a large Fortune500 company and is having issues connecting his stuff to "legacy" technology there. Apparently, a company called "Synergex" has a "screen scraper" type program that presents a gui to a windows desktop user from a character based

Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Apr 21, 2016, at 07:27, Paul Koning wrote: > > Thick mat of twisted pair wiring, and console with two round CRTs, that's a > good description of a CDC 6000 series mainframe. They certainly weren't as > easy to use as Unix machines, but a lot faster than anything

Re: [OT] Alternatives to eBay

2016-04-21 Thread ethan
Yes, it's geographically oriented. You can do wide area searches on another site called searchtempest.com. I've never really found Craigslist very appealing, personally. There are services that let people set alerts and it will ping them on their phone or something. Just post a desireable

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-04-21 Thread John Willis
> > > It wouldn't be until 1994 that the university allowed access to the > public > > internet directly through SLIP or PPP. > > My college was very restrictive that way, too. I figured out how to get > "slirp" working because there wasn't anyway to get a working PPP or SLIP > connection for me

Re: [OT] Alternatives to eBay

2016-04-21 Thread Sean Caron
On Thu, 21 Apr 2016, Swift Griggs wrote: I haven't look at Craigslist much. Isn't it more oriented to geographically local sales? Can you setup search alerts like on ebay? Craigslist rocks, IMHO. I agree that Ebay is draconian and over-corporate. However, I also agree with others that I've

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/21/2016 07:04 AM, Jules Richardson wrote: On 04/20/2016 10:00 AM, Toby Thain wrote: Nice collection. I'd forgotten about the 32016! What software ran on these respective processors? OS-wise the 32016 ran something called Panos, with Pandora as the firmware - mostly written in

Re: [OT] Alternatives to eBay

2016-04-21 Thread Swift Griggs
> > I haven't look at Craigslist much. Isn't it more oriented to > > geographically local sales? Can you setup search alerts like on ebay? Craigslist rocks, IMHO. I agree that Ebay is draconian and over-corporate. However, I also agree with others that I've found stuff on ebay I'd never have

Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 20, 2016, at 11:33 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote: > > Back when I spent a couple of years at UNLV in the late 80s, I had a class in > which I was forced to use an account on a Harris H800 computer, if my memory > serves me correctly. Being a BSD snob, I felt that was a

Re: Imlac PDS-1 source code

2016-04-21 Thread Tom Uban
Yes, the mazewar source is saved. I demonstrated it running on my Imlac PDS-1 together with an emulated PDP10 (thanks to Ken Harrenstien) as well as an emulated PDS-1 (thanks to Howard Palmer) back in 2006 at a VCF West. Best, Tom Uban On 4/20/16 7:25 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > From: Josh

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-04-21 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 20 Apr 2016, John Willis wrote: > going from the terminal server and use a proper TN3270 client to access the > mainframe instead of ProComm Plus. Oh I remember Procomm, I was a Qmodem man, myself. However, niether had 3270 emulation. > It wouldn't be until 1994 that the university

Re: Harris RTX-2000 - Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s

2016-04-21 Thread Tapley, Mark
On Apr 20, 2016, at 9:46 PM, dwight wrote: > The RTX-2000 was an of shoot of the NC4000. Even at 10MHz, they could > out compute a 40MHz 80386. > One execution per clock cycle plus possibly using 3 16 bit busses in a single > cycle. > A 4MHz NC4000 could sort 1K 16 bit

Re: [OT] Alternatives to eBay

2016-04-21 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Apr 21, 2016, at 00:03, curiousma...@gmail.com wrote: > > I haven't look at Craigslist much. Isn't it more oriented to geographically > local sales? Can you setup search alerts like on ebay? Yes, it's geographically oriented. You can do wide area searches on another site called

Re: Manual for DEC 433au

2016-04-21 Thread Laurens Vets
On 2016-04-20 14:00, Jarratt RMA wrote: On 19 April 2016 at 19:29 Laurens Vets wrote: On 2016-04-16 18:07, Glen Slick wrote: On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 5:44 AM, Robert Jarratt wrote: Anyone got the following document: DIGITAL Personal Workstation

ND-10 software - Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Mattis Lind
> > > > Hey, this is useful. > > Thanks for doing it! > > Yep! > Already investigating. IMD gave me some trouble, had to resort to > dosbox. Source for PED (Programmer's Editor) version G? I've never > seen source. I have version F as a :PROG file. I'm guessing that Planc > version C may compile

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Adrian Graham
On 21 April 2016 at 13:04, Jules Richardson wrote: > OS-wise the 32016 ran something called Panos, with Pandora as the firmware > - mostly written in Modula-2. Acorn (working with Logica) attempted a > Xenix port, and some documentation references Xenix as being

Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Tor Arntsen
On 21 April 2016 at 13:22, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: >> >> Speaking of NORD-10 I put some scanned documents here: >> http://www.datormuseum.se/documentation-software/norsk-data-documentation >> and also

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Jules Richardson
On 04/20/2016 10:00 AM, Toby Thain wrote: Nice collection. I'd forgotten about the 32016! What software ran on these respective processors? OS-wise the 32016 ran something called Panos, with Pandora as the firmware - mostly written in Modula-2. Acorn (working with Logica) attempted a Xenix

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Jules Richardson
On 04/20/2016 08:57 AM, Toby Thain wrote: Also going to mention the BBC Tube coprocessor here. Which had an ARM version, iirc. Yes, from Acorn: ARM, 32016, 6502, 65C102, Z80, 80186 and 80286. Torch did a couple of different Z80 boards too, and a couple of different Z80/68000 combo boards.

Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: > > Speaking of NORD-10 I put some scanned documents here: > http://www.datormuseum.se/documentation-software/norsk-data-documentation > and also a few diskettes that I have imaged: >

Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Mattis Lind
> Almost :-) > The NORD-10/S was a NORD-10 plus caching and paging, while the > bitsliced version was to be called NORD-10/M (M for 'micro'), and was > so fast that it was renamed NORD-100, which was shortened to ND-100 > later that same year (1978 - but the machine itself was released in > 1979,

Re: strangest systems I've sent email from

2016-04-21 Thread Nico de Jong
- Oprindelig meddelelse - Fra: "Swift Griggs" Til: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sendt: 20. april 2016 18:55 Emne: Re: strangest systems I've sent email from > On Wed, 20 Apr 2016, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: >> For

Re: [OT] Alternatives to eBay

2016-04-21 Thread curiousmarc3
I haven't look at Craigslist much. Isn't it more oriented to geographically local sales? Can you setup search alerts like on ebay? Marc On Apr 20, 2016, at 10:36 AM, et...@757.org wrote: > Craigslist is the one big eBay alternative.

Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Tor Arntsen
On 21 April 2016 at 08:07, Raymond Wiker wrote: > I was a bit surprised to see that it used 2901 with a date code of 1985 - > the 2901 was introduced 10 years before. > > In the late 1970s, Norsk Data implemented the ND10 architecture with the > 2901. It was thought that this

LSSM event announcement

2016-04-21 Thread Dave McGuire
[I'm sending this around to several mailing lists] Most of you have heard of the Large Scale Systems Museum, a public museum in the Pittsburgh area that is focused on minicomputers, mainframes, and supercomputers. LSSM opened its doors to the public for the first time in October of 2015,

Re: cctech Digest, Vol 22, Issue 20

2016-04-21 Thread Michael Thompson
> > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 11:12:36 +0200 > From: Jonathan Katz > Subject: Re: Seeking immediate rescue of full-rack SGI ONYX near > Northbrook, IL > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > > > Intel's effort at RISC. Didn't go so well

Re: High performance coprocessor boards of the 80s and 90s - was Re: SGI ONYX

2016-04-21 Thread Toby Thain
On 2016-04-20 8:02 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 11:12:36 +0200 From: Jonathan Katz Subject: Re: Seeking immediate rescue of full-rack SGI ONYX near Northbrook, IL On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Liam Proven wrote:

Re: Harris H800 Computer

2016-04-21 Thread Raymond Wiker
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 6:46 AM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 11:21:03PM -0500, Kyle Owen wrote: > > I seem to have acquired a few boards from a decommissioned system. > > 74S00s, they were going for speed. > > The 2900s are the well-known bit-slice chips.