I got just another jewel to my collection, IBM 1620 Model I (G level). Machine
has all internals intact, but table top and the typewriter are missing
(probably doorway was too narrow back then, parts removed and forgotten
somewhere on the journey... )
That table top can be made again, but I
Some one had one in the Netherlands about 4 years ago...
>Erik W. vier...@hotmail.com via classiccmp.org
>26/06/2012
>to cctalk
>
>
>Hi Folks,
> I have an original IBM model B computer controlled typewriter witha lot
of spares and maintenance manuals available for sale ortrade. This stuff is
> Is the 15kHz RGB signal fundamentally the same as the VGA signal, except
> at a lower horizontal frequency? If not, how do they differ?
Basically, yes. 3 separate analogue video signals, one for each primary
colour.
The drifference might be the sync signals. VGA has two, basically think
of the
On 14 June 2016 at 01:56, Sean Conner wrote:
> It was thus said that the Great Liam Proven once stated:
>> > System 9.x and before are
>> > "something different" for me, a break from my mostly hardcore CLI
>> > existence.
>>
>> Yes, true. An OS I still miss, for all its instability and quirkiness
On 14 June 2016 at 18:31, Swift Griggs wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
>> Might have got it like that & never noticed...?
>
> He claimed to be the original owner, and he was a teacher. He probably got
> it as part of some educational program, maybe it was used then. I dunno.
> May
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 04:51:43PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
[...]
> * Simplicity -- the Finder integration with the OS, the desktop database,
> etc. Move items around, aliases still point to them. Even to other drives,
> even to other machines on the same network!
Not that I'm any fan of Windows,
Unicomp keys are still done using dyesub PBT, same as IBMs. Still takes a
lot of effort to wear it down, I don't recall ever seeing a board with any
wear on the legends.
OK. I must be missing something here
Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd with the
default address for use as a serial terminal interface? I understand the
other jumpers on the card, but the address and vector jumpers confuse me.
I can't seem to find a table or a "h
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Christopher Satterfield wrote:
Unicomp keys are still done using dyesub PBT, same as IBMs. Still takes a
lot of effort to wear it down, I don't recall ever seeing a board with any
wear on the legends.
I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses.
> From: William Degnan
> Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd with
> the default address for use as a serial terminal interface?
Yup. (And BTW the baud's not jumpers, it's the dials.)
> I understand the other jumpers on the card, but the address and
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:01 PM, Noel Chiappa
wrote:
> > From: William Degnan
>
> > Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd
> with
> > the default address for use as a serial terminal interface?
>
> Yup. (And BTW the baud's not jumpers, it's the dials.)
>
I have a PDP-11/23 with two RL02 drives, in a third party rack, that I
need to rehome. The PDP does not have any cards installed! Nothing has
been tested.
Available! Cheap! Always open to trades. The rack is a shorty, and I
could deliver it within reason.
I still have those MINC-11 cards, too.
-
Hi Will,
Where are you located?
Thanks, Mark
Sent from my iPhone
> On 15 Jun 2016, at 18:06, William Donzelli wrote:
>
> I have a PDP-11/23 with two RL02 drives, in a third party rack, that I
> need to rehome. The PDP does not have any cards installed! Nothing has
> been tested.
>
> Availabl
> From: William Degnan
> OMG
Yeah, but look at it this way: their being inverted can be a memory jogger -
'Oh, the DL11, that effed-up interface where the jumper sense is inverted
between address and vector!' Then you only have to look up one of the two.. :-)
> Yes, so I can use a te
- Original Message -
> From: "Mark Darvill"
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 10:35:54 AM
> Subject: Re: PDP-11/23 system available
>
> Hi Will,
>
> Where are you located?
>
> Thanks, Mark
>
Looking at his signature, I'd guess h
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 10:06 , William Donzelli wrote:
>
> I have a PDP-11/23 with two RL02 drives, in a third party rack, that I
> need to rehome. The PDP does not have any cards installed! Nothing has
> been tested.
It's a shame that it wasn't in the back of your van back at MRCG last month. ;
Odd all I saw on the email that came to me was:
Will, in IB
Mark
Sent from my iPhone
> On 15 Jun 2016, at 18:51, azd30 wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
>> From: "Mark Darvill"
>> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 10:35:54 AM
> Looking at his signature, I'd guess he's in Yorktown Heights, NY or maybe
> Rochester NY. Unless there's other IBM lands in NY ?!?
IBM Rochester generally refers to the Minnesota Rochester, although
there is an IBM presence in New York Rochester.
Anyway, IBM Land NY generally means the lower t
> It's a shame that it wasn't in the back of your van back at MRCG last month.
> ;)
No room! Although by the time you saw me at MRCG, I had shed almost
all my cargo.
I really want this rack to go away, so I really can not hold this for
you for a year or two, sorry. But, if it goes unclaimed (unl
Can't explain that...
--
Will
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Mark Darvill wrote:
> Odd all I saw on the email that came to me was:
>
> Will, in IB
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 15 Jun 2016, at 18:51, azd30 wrote:
>>
>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Mark Darvill"
>>> To:
I suppose I should say that since I have a shipping dock here, I can
load it onto a skid and ship it - but YOU would have to set up ALL the
shipping. Basically, I would put it on a skid and give the truck
driver a cup of coffee - that's it.
--
Will
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:06 PM, William Donzell
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 11:11 , William Donzelli wrote:
>
> I suppose I should say that since I have a shipping dock here, I can
> load it onto a skid and ship it - but YOU would have to set up ALL the
> shipping. Basically, I would put it on a skid and give the truck
> driver a cup of coffee - th
OK.
> For 777560/60 (standard for the console), you want A7/A3 and V4/V5 'in'.
I intend to use a serial terminal to access the console via M912 CONSOLE
ROM. I believe you're saying to connect A7/A3 and V4/V5, but I still don't
understand the pattern.
What would A4, A5, A6 and V7, V6, V3 represe
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Liam Proven wrote:
> In Ireland, "gear" means hard drugs, so maybe it's safer!
Whoa. I didn't know that. You are right. I'll have to convert to using
"kit" exclusively next time I'm in the UK. I'm usually just in Heathrow or
Gatwick waiting to fly out to Oslo. I still have s
There is a pallet of these in St. Louis, MO, going for scrap prices. Some
are more recent. If anyone is interested, I can get you contact info. He
will sell the pallet, but not by the piece. Units are dirty, untested, may
be incomplete, etc. I am not affiliated with the seller in any way.
https
On older Apple 68k machines, having an Apple-branded CDROM means you can
be assured it'll boot (though it's rumored that many generic SCSI CDROMs
work for booting) and also that it'll "just work" on most of the OSs.
I'm guessing it's a simple check to see if the vendor in the firmware is
"APP
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, geneb wrote:
> I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses.
I wish ALL keyboards did that... it's a superior design, IMHO.
-Swift
> From: William Degnan
>> For 777560/60 (standard for the console), you want A7/A3 and V4/V5
>> 'in'.
> I intend to use a serial terminal to access the console via M912
> CONSOLE ROM.
Got it; that would mean you're wanting the standard console.
> I believe you're saying
On 06/15/16 10:08 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 14 June 2016 at 18:31, Swift Griggs wrote:
In Ireland, "gear" means hard drugs, so maybe it's safer!
Tempted to try Shoebill... [...] but emulators aren't the same.
I like emulators for "helping" with real hardware. Ie.. making disks or
disk i
On older Apple 68k machines, having an Apple-branded CDROM means you can
be assured it'll boot (though it's rumored that many generic SCSI CDROMs
work for booting) and also that it'll "just work" on most of the OSs.
I'm not sure if it has anything to do with it, but over on the early SGI
and Su
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:16 PM, Noel Chiappa
wrote:
> > From: William Degnan
>
> >> For 777560/60 (standard for the console), you want A7/A3 and V4/V5
> >> 'in'.
>
> > I intend to use a serial terminal to access the console via M912
> > CONSOLE ROM.
>
> Got it; that would mea
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: william degnan
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 5:35 PM
To: cctech
Subject: DL11 M7800
OK. I must be missing something here
Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd with the
default address for use as a serial terminal interfac
Thanks for the patches / images Seth...
I can verify that SunOS 4.1.4 image from winworld, works - I have it installed
on my SparcStation20. The only thing that failed to extract/install properly
was OpenWindows. Now, there were two images on the site, and I haven't tried
the second image.
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, azd30 wrote:
> Thanks for the patches / images Seth... I can verify that SunOS 4.1.4
> image from winworld, works - I have it installed on my SparcStation20.
> The only thing that failed to extract/install properly was OpenWindows.
> Now, there were two images on the site, a
I recently received something very special to me, a Symbolics XL1200 LISP
machine, with framethrower and the works.
Despite being shipped in the original SMBX designed carton, UPS dealt a
great deal of damage to the system. It looks like it was hit by a truck.
This, predictably, makes me very sad
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Jerry Kemp wrote:
> I'm not arguing your stance. Real hardware is the best. That said,
> after you have ran out of room due to too many other systems, I would
> rather have the opportunity to experience A/UX, or Rhapsody or even AIX
> 1.3x via virtualization or emulation,
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, et...@757.org wrote:
> I'm not sure if it has anything to do with it, but over on the early SGI
> and Sun and NeXT stuff you had to change the block size on the CD-ROM to
> get them to work.
Yeah, I think you mean the 2048 vs 512 byte block size. SGI's use a 512
byte size,
On 06/15/2016 01:32 PM, Ian Finder wrote:
> I recently received something very special to me, a Symbolics XL1200
> LISP machine, with framethrower and the works.
>
> Despite being shipped in the original SMBX designed carton, UPS dealt
> a great deal of damage to the system. It looks like it was h
Ian wrote
=
Is there anyone, preferably local, with the skill and tools to make this thing
look a little better who can lend a hand?
How do I get started undoing the dents and extremely bent base?
=
Bummer Ian nice machine.
I had posted a while back about how I straightened the
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Ian Finder wrote:
> Despite being shipped in the original SMBX designed carton, UPS dealt a
> great deal of damage to the system. It looks like it was hit by a truck.
Dangit! I knew I shoulda been going faster when I hit that UPS truck.
*ducks*
!!!JOKING!!! :-)
> Is the
Didn't hacked or 3rd party cd-rom drivers exist. That won't handle the
boot problem, but the boot checks might not be as thorough as Disk Setup
???
Plextor CD-ROM SCSI drives used to have a 512 byte block jumper as
well. I don't know about the DVD drives.
On 2016-06-15 16:45, Swift Grig
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, rescue wrote:
> Didn't hacked or 3rd party cd-rom drivers exist?
I have some vague memory, but I was thinking that could just be wishful /
convenient memory on my part.
> That won't handle the boot problem, but the boot checks might not be as
> thorough as Disk Setup ???
W
Don't have time to fully check it out, but check out:
http://chrislawson.net/writing/macdaniel/2k1130cl.shtml
On 2016-06-15 17:24, Swift Griggs wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, rescue wrote:
Didn't hacked or 3rd party cd-rom drivers exist?
I have some vague memory, but I was thinking that could
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, rescue wrote:
> Don't have time to fully check it out, but check out:
> http://chrislawson.net/writing/macdaniel/2k1130cl.shtml
Thanks. That doc mirrors my current understanding, but it doesn't address
the ROM hack I'm contemplating.
-Swift
> Its obvious that the systemd thing is a very controversial one, but I
> see the move as just one of the "trying to keep up with the other
> players in the field, i.e. launchd in OS X or svc services in
> Solaris/Solaris distro's.
Just because other people make a mistake is no excuse for another
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 4:47 PM, Mouse wrote:
>
> The BSDs just sit there and work, for the most part. The major thing I
> see them lacking is a PR department.
And thank $GOD for that. It was P.R. that created (and perpetuates) Linux.
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 15:20:11 -0400
From: "Bill Sudbrink"
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"
Subject:
> I think that VCFed (was MARCH) had that one
> signed at the same workshop that mine was
> signed at. A couple of others were signed
> at the same time. Pictu
Can anyone identify this HP board (see link to pictures)?
https://goo.gl/photos/BBuAV1oozWNSqeUTA
It was at under the main board of a newly acquired HP 1000-E, next to the
firmware board. It says HP 54427-60050 Booster Microcode. It has 5 bitslice
SN 74S181 chips at the back. So I surmise maybe i
I have one of those boards. You sent me an email about it and I replied a
week ago :)
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of CuriousMarc
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 9:49 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Mystery HP 1000 board
Can anyone
Thanks. That doc mirrors my current understanding, but it doesn't address
the ROM hack I'm contemplating.
-Swift
Microcontroller board to rewrite the scsi cdb block with the vendor over
to Apple!
--
Ethan O'Toole
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Henk Gooijen
wrote:
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- From: william degnan Sent: Wednesday,
> June 15, 2016 5:35 PM To: cctech Subject: DL11 M7800
> OK. I must be missing something here
>
> Does anyone have a M7800 (DL11) set for 9600 b N71 or N81 jumper'd with
Well there are 20 bits of ALU
And this guy has one and some other boards
http://nevadabarry.com/electron.html#HP%20Test%20Equipment
NO Connection with the site/person/etc .. just passing it on
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Jay West wrote:
> I have one of those boards. You sent me an e
Your going to need a CDROM that can be set for 512 byte sectors. We use to
use Plextor drives
and if money was a factor, Pioneer. In the early days Plextor drives were
quite a bit more expensive
the all the others, and where usually faster.
BTW 512 bytes came from the sector size of a hard drive
Hello vintage computing fans - we are finally ready to officially
re-announce the 11th annual Vintage Computer Festival Midwest! Here
are the essentials:
What: A weekend of friends, fellowship and frivolity centered around
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Yes, yes, I remember!
[furiously searches email archive]
Jay said: "The large board on the left. I am fairly sure that I have one. I
am trying to remember what it was. I know that it made the E series into
specific test instrument. I do remember that you can remove it and it's a
normal E. I'll go
You beat me! You got one hit. How did you search for that? I come up dry...
Marc
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Pete Lancashire
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 8:50 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Myst
See: http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1977-10.pdf Figure 4
Shows some of those other parts as well in the block diagram. Uses a "HP 21MX
K-Series Computer".
Model 5420A Digital Signal Analyzer.
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On B
Ah, thanks, this is getting awfully close, and jives well with Jay's
recollection. Low frequency spectrum analysis using FFT seems to be the
application indeed. Mentions an "arithmetic booster board" bolted to the bottom
of an HP 21MX K (whatever a K-model is, never heard of it, but seems to be
Suspicion confirmed, inspecting other cards of the machine, the cage is full of
many mystery interface cards 05451-20025. I'm not sure yet of what the many
cards do, but The HP 5451 was a 1972 Fourrier Analysis system that was
implemented with an even earlier, core memory version HP 2100 process
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