Re: Building the Ultimate Classic Mac.

2016-07-16 Thread Austin Pass
> On 15 Jul 2016, at 21:54, Swift Griggs wrote: > >> On Fri, 15 Jul 2016, Austin Pass wrote: >> I'm toying with putting the "ultimate" classic Mac together, although >> I'm having a little difficulty pinning down the definition of what the >> ultimate representation of the type is, so was look

Re: Building the Ultimate Classic Mac.

2016-07-16 Thread Austin Pass
On 16 Jul 2016, at 07:39, Cameron Kaiser wrote: >> I'm toying with putting the "ultimate" classic Mac together, although I'm >> having a little difficulty pinning down the definition of what the ultimate >> representation of the type is, so was looking for a little input from >> Classic CMP'ers.

Re: Building the Ultimate Classic Mac.

2016-07-16 Thread couryhouse
I am following this closely  as we were recently given A g4 ... not the mirror frontA g4 mirror frontA g5 1st model drive missing nice internalsA g5 w Intel but not 3. So Cann not update to free latest  os..is there a workaround ..internal design us not as cool as first g5 We have jus

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-16 Thread Peter Corlett
On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 01:03:31PM -0600, ben wrote: [...] > I had hopes on the Amiga until they came out with the 2000*. > * Lets add a brain dead cpu and run DOS. The A2088 was an add-in option. Back in the day, only one of my A2000-owning friends had a bridgecard. I was given a demo, and it was

Re: DOS code in CP/M? Revisited...

2016-07-16 Thread Peter Corlett
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 08:10:24PM +0200, Liam Proven wrote: [...] > http://chrisacorns.computinghistory.org.uk/docs/Mags/PCW/PCW_Aug87_Archimedes.pdf > I vividly remember reading it as a 19YO student... > "The hard disk in the A500 is most noticeable for its ferociously rapid > access speed. It l

Re: Multiflow Trace 14/300 close to being scrapped in Texas

2016-07-16 Thread aswood
Would be quite interesting. A micro super- multiprocessor system. I do have an incomplete system, sold in Germany a GEI Trace. Mine has two Fujtsu SMD Drives. Would take the system, but wrong side of the pond. Very rare, should be saved. -- > Am 16.07.2016 um 04:55 schrieb Evan Linwood : >

Re: VMS stability back in the day (was Re: NuTek Mac comes)

2016-07-16 Thread jonas
On Thu, 14 Jul 2016, Sean Conner wrote: What I've read about VMS makes me think the networking was incredible. To be fair, I think you have to think about what was around when VMS was developed, and what DEC was competing with. VMS is an enterprise-grade operating system, designed for seriou

Re: 11/44 Console cable

2016-07-16 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Kirk Davis > Does anyone know off hand if a 11/83 cab kit will work as a 11/44 > console? Both are 20 bin ribbon cable connectors Say what? The 20-pin connector on the M8190 (KDJ11-B) is configuration management, etc - the console connector is the 10-pin one (which uses the st

Re: VMS stability back in the day (was Re: NuTek Mac comes)

2016-07-16 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jonas > At the time VMS was conceived, Unix was a university product, used for > teaching and research, not for heavy production work. Err, not quite. In the mid-70's, the PWB system at Bell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PWB/UNIX was being used by a community of about 1K

Re: Building the Ultimate Classic Mac.

2016-07-16 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> I'll hit eBay too for some PSU replacements. There are a few modified aftermarket supplies for the MDD which are also infinitely more reliable. I have an Antec one around here somewhere. The lower-watt AcBel units seem more reliable. > What graphics card do you use, out of interest? I use an A

Re: Multiflow Trace 14/300 close to being scrapped in Texas

2016-07-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/15/2016 09:55 PM, Evan Linwood wrote: Hi All, I noticed that the Multiflow race 14/300 system listed on eBay didn't sell recently. I don't have any personal background with these machines but it seems they could be both significant and rare? They are VERY rare, and significant, as there w

Re: Building the Ultimate Classic Mac.

2016-07-16 Thread Al Kossow
On 7/15/16 11:39 PM, Cameron Kaiser wrote: > You didn't ask, but my preferred heavy duty 68K is the Q800. Yup, I'd take it over the baroque 840AV any day.

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-16 Thread Adam Sampson
Peter Corlett writes: > Commodore UK also released the A1500 which was an A2000 without hard > disk but with an extra floppy drive, i.e. the same spec as a typical > A500 gaming rig. It apparently flew off the shelves, although I'm not > sure why given it cost somewhat more than the A500 equivale

Re: VMS stability back in the day (was Re: NuTek Mac comes)

2016-07-16 Thread Jerry Weiss
On Jul 16, 2016, at 7:55 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >> From: Jonas > >> At the time VMS was conceived, Unix was a university product, used for >> teaching and research, not for heavy production work. > > Err, not quite. In the mid-70's, the PWB system at Bell: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wik

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-16 Thread Christian Corti
On Sat, 16 Jul 2016, Peter Corlett wrote: main compelling feature of the A2000 was the built-in hard disk. The A2000 did *not* have a built-in hard disk, that was the A3000. The A2000 was just an "updated" A1000 in a large desktop case with Zorro slots... completely braindead. Christian

Re: PLATO and learning models (was Re: NuTek Mac comes)

2016-07-16 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 15, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > On 07/15/2016 05:47 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > >> Graphics terminals were quite rare in the early 1970s, at least at a >> cost allowing them to be installed in the hundreds, and with >> processing requirements low enough for that. I remember,

Re: Reproduction micros

2016-07-16 Thread TeoZ
A2000HD had the built in hard drive. -Original Message- From: Christian Corti Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2016 1:16 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Reproduction micros On Sat, 16 Jul 2016, Peter Corlett wrote: main compelling feature of the A2000

Re: PLATO and learning models (was Re: NuTek Mac comes)

2016-07-16 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/16/2016 10:34 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > IGS? Two colors? Don't recognize that. There's the 6000 console > (DD60), very expensive, requiring a dedicated processor to feed it, > and limited to uppercase text only plus very small amounts of > graphics (a dot at a time, 3 microseconds per dot)

Re: VMS stability back in the day (was Re: NuTek Mac comes)

2016-07-16 Thread Grif
Whats this "BackInTheDay" stuff ? ;-)  granted we upgraded to openvms at y2k, but the system  is still in production.   Ive been involved in this app since 93, and it was mature then.  Just will not die :-( Original message From: j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu Date: 07/16/2016 05:5

Re: VMS stability back in the day (was Re: NuTek Mac comes)

2016-07-16 Thread steven
jonas said: > VMS is an > enterprise-grade operating system, designed for serious production work. > At the time VMS was conceived, Unix was a university product, used for > teaching and research, not for heavy production work. In the mid 80s our Uni teaching 11/780 running VMS would groan and cre

Re: VMS stability back in the day (was Re: NuTek Mac comes)

2016-07-16 Thread Antonio Carlini
On 15/07/16 14:49, Swift Griggs wrote: All I'm saying is that the presence of multiple IP stacks looks to me to be unwieldy, organic, and incremental. VMS came with DECnet built-in (although you had to license it). If you wanted TCP/IP there was UCX, which you had to install separately. The o

Re: VMS stability back in the day (was Re: NuTek Mac comes)

2016-07-16 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 07/16/2016 03:21 PM, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > In the mid 80s our Uni teaching 11/780 running VMS would groan and > creak under the strain of 50 students logged on. I was told that over > at Sydney Uni, their 11/780s were running a very modded and tweaked > Unix and could have a hundred or m

Re: VMS stability back in the day (was Re: NuTek Mac comes)

2016-07-16 Thread Steven M Jones
On 07/16/2016 15:21, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: > > In the mid 80s our Uni teaching 11/780 running VMS would groan and creak > under the strain of 50 students logged on. I was told that over at Sydney > Uni, their 11/780s were running a very modded and tweaked Unix and could > have a hundred or mo

Re: Multiflow Trace 14/300 close to being scrapped in Texas

2016-07-16 Thread James Vess
Does anyone have the capacity to power the unit on in Texas? I could purchase and move, but without any ability to power it on it would just sit persistently in storage and I'm not interested in getting another minicomputer that will just sit. Let me know? On Saturday, July 16, 2016, Jon Elson w

eBay MVII BA123 $99 - Buy It Now - Richboro, Pennsylvania

2016-07-16 Thread Glen Slick
Don't see too many complete looking BA123 boxes show up on eBay and this one seems relatively cheap if you happen to be able to pick it up locally in Richboro, Pennsylvania. Plus a few boxes of VMS documentation too. http://www.ebay.com/itm/232013130536 (No personal connection to, or information a

Re: VMS stability back in the day (was Re: NuTek Mac comes)

2016-07-16 Thread Richard Loken
On Sun, 17 Jul 2016, ste...@malikoff.com wrote: In the mid 80s our Uni teaching 11/780 running VMS would groan and creak under the strain of 50 students logged on. I was told that over at Sydney Uni, their 11/780s were running a very modded and tweaked Unix and could have a hundred or more stude

Re: eBay MVII BA123 $99 - Buy It Now - Richboro, Pennsylvania

2016-07-16 Thread Ian S. King
On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Glen Slick wrote: > Don't see too many complete looking BA123 boxes show up on eBay and > this one seems relatively cheap if you happen to be able to pick it up > locally in Richboro, Pennsylvania. Plus a few boxes of VMS > documentation too. > > http://www.ebay.c

Re: Multiflow Trace 14/300 close to being scrapped in Texas

2016-07-16 Thread Mark Linimon
On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 08:31:59PM -0500, James Vess wrote: > Does anyone have the capacity to power the unit on in Texas? Yeah but ... I wouldn't. The power supplies look too rough for me to trust the smoke-test. I can store it but I will lie if I say I can devote any time to it. mcl

RE: eBay MVII BA123 $99 - Buy It Now - Richboro, Pennsylvania

2016-07-16 Thread Rob Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ian S. King > Sent: 17 July 2016 05:27 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: eBay MVII BA123 $99 - Buy It Now - Richboro, Pennsylvania > > On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 7: