Re: VAX file format conversion

2016-08-12 Thread Dave Mitton
If you are importing files into VMS, you need to become familiar with the EXCHANGE command. (found via Google) http://h20565.www2.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c04623262 It can do stream and carriage control conversions on various RMS fixed formats. When we first brought up DECn

Re: SWTPC 6800

2016-08-12 Thread Brad H
Thanks!  I'm definitely enjoying my trips back to 1976.  My house is early 70s and in the basement with an old table and the terminal, computer and monitor I'm pretty much in 1976.  I really am hoping to learn how to program using the monitor... still don't completely understand how adding

Re: SWTPC 6800

2016-08-12 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2016-Aug-12, at 7:39 PM, Brad H wrote: > There's no way to have both the MP-C and MP-S cards in the same machine and > have the computer connected to one at a faster rate of speed is there? As far the hardware goes, yes, you can have both cards in there operating at different speeds. Your pro

RE: SWTPC 6800

2016-08-12 Thread Brad H
Okay so I gave it a try. As it turned out, I had a serial cable that had both DB-25 and DB-9 heads at both ends. So I thought I'd try using the prolific USB to serial adapter I had here with my modern laptop so I could easily download text files and run them. Yeah no. The prolific cable allows

RE: SWTPC 6800

2016-08-12 Thread Brad H
Many thanks Mike! -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mike Stein Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 6:45 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: SWTPC 6800 I'm still looking for my AC-30; as soon as I find it it's yo

Re: Atlanta Open House Tomorrow

2016-08-12 Thread Ken Seefried
I'd be more than happy to look for what people want, but an address, start time and required payment type would help.

Re: SWTPC 6800

2016-08-12 Thread Mike Stein
I'm still looking for my AC-30; as soon as I find it it's yours. See ya off-list... m - Original Message - From: "Brad H" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 9:17 PM Subject: Re: SWTPC 6800 > > > Interesting. I thought the CT-1024

Re: SWTPC 6800

2016-08-12 Thread Brad H
Interesting.  I thought the CT-1024 was sort of the intended companion for the 6800 (It came out first, I think).  I wonder what they expected people to do if they had just those two devices? I'll probably try cable swap and see how onerous that is.  I'm hoping to one day acquire an AC-30.

Re: HP to acquire SGI

2016-08-12 Thread Chris Elmquist
On Friday (08/12/2016 at 09:33AM -0700), Chuck Guzis wrote: > On 08/12/2016 06:17 AM, Todd Killingsworth wrote: > > > SGI was already destroyed decades ago. With more vision, they could > > have transitioned the business into becoming an Nvidia instead of a > > faceless rack server company. > >

Re: SWTPC 6800

2016-08-12 Thread Chris Elmquist
On Friday (08/12/2016 at 07:33AM -0700), Brad H wrote: > > > I've a question.  I've now got my CT1024 working properly with my 6800.. is > there an easy way to load txt loader files into it while it is still > connected to the CT?  Or do I have to load something in via PC first and then >

Re: For trade: beautiful Data General Nova 820 w/ Diablo Drive & controller

2016-08-12 Thread devin davison
Whoops. mailed the whole list sorry. On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 1:02 PM, devin davison wrote: > I am interested in the data general nova 820. I have a pdp 11, i have been > looking to get into the data general machines for a while now. I have many > sgi machines around here. Sgi crimson, tezro

Halt and Catch Fire season about to start on TV!

2016-08-12 Thread COURYHOUSE
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Re: HP to acquire SGI

2016-08-12 Thread Jules Richardson
On 08/12/2016 11:33 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote: Whatever, the original company and mindset is long gone. No use crying over spilt milk. Company, mindset, and the industry in which it operated, to be honest. I don't think I could get particularly excited about putting a SGI-branded graphics card i

Re: Tape imaging

2016-08-12 Thread Al Kossow
On 8/12/16 10:14 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote: > On 2016-08-12 10:27, Al Kossow wrote: >> physical is a .1 grid of square pins coming off of a flex cable to the head >> stack. >> electrical is you supply a bias current and directly read magnetic flux with >> an opamp > OK, >> I traced all of that

Re: Tape Imaging

2016-08-12 Thread Al Kossow
On 8/12/16 12:06 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > But what drive was used to write > this (DEC) tape is a mystery. > DEC didn't sell a whole lot of different 1600/6250 drives. TU78 was probably the most common. and.. as I was writing this I remembered that it was possible to switch densities on that d

Re: Tape Imaging

2016-08-12 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/12/2016 11:19 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > I think some drives can handle mid-tape density changes. It may even > have been done by DEC, though I may be confusing that with the odd > case of RSTS distribution tapes which started out with a DOS-11 label > and then switched to ANSI labels. Sure,

Re: Tape Imaging

2016-08-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 12, 2016, at 2:11 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > On 08/11/2016 10:50 PM, jim stephens wrote: > >> That sounds like someone just set a Cipher 990 or such to 6240 GCR >> and overwrote it. The 1600bpi was residue which was previous tape >> contents? > > No, that's the odd thing--both files

Re: Tape Imaging

2016-08-12 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/11/2016 10:50 PM, jim stephens wrote: > That sounds like someone just set a Cipher 990 or such to 6240 GCR > and overwrote it. The 1600bpi was residue which was previous tape > contents? No, that's the odd thing--both files (tar) were complete from beginning to end. The first was a smalle

Re: Tape imaging

2016-08-12 Thread emanuel stiebler
On 2016-08-12 10:27, Al Kossow wrote: physical is a .1 grid of square pins coming off of a flex cable to the head stack. electrical is you supply a bias current and directly read magnetic flux with an opamp OK, I traced all of that out the last time I made a run at this windmill. John used a

Re: For trade: beautiful Data General Nova 820 w/ Diablo Drive & controller

2016-08-12 Thread devin davison
I am interested in the data general nova 820. I have a pdp 11, i have been looking to get into the data general machines for a while now. I have many sgi machines around here. Sgi crimson, tezro, many octanes, octane 2's , indigo, indy indigo, etc. tons of related software for the sgi machines too

Re: R: HP to acquire SGI

2016-08-12 Thread geneb
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, geneb wrote: On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Fred Cisin wrote: If HP and Microsoft merged, would it put an end to computers? No, but it might create a Black Hole of Fail that would evour the planet. *sigh* s/evour/devour :wq g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim

For trade: beautiful Data General Nova 820 w/ Diablo Drive & controller

2016-08-12 Thread Ian Finder
I picked this early DG machine up and although it's awesome and complete, I just don't think I'll get to restoring it. I'd like to trade for anything Symbolics, or potentially other very early graphical workstation hardware (PERQ, 68K SGI, etc.) Located in Seattle, but I am no stranger to freight

Re: R: HP to acquire SGI

2016-08-12 Thread geneb
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Fred Cisin wrote: If HP and Microsoft merged, would it put an end to computers? No, but it might create a Black Hole of Fail that would evour the planet. g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http://www.diy-cockpits.org/col

Re: HP to acquire SGI

2016-08-12 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/12/2016 06:17 AM, Todd Killingsworth wrote: > SGI was already destroyed decades ago. With more vision, they could > have transitioned the business into becoming an Nvidia instead of a > faceless rack server company. But that's really what SGI is/was today--the former Rackable Systems who i

Re: Tape imaging

2016-08-12 Thread Al Kossow
physical is a .1 grid of square pins coming off of a flex cable to the head stack. electrical is you supply a bias current and directly read magnetic flux with an opamp I traced all of that out the last time I made a run at this windmill. John used an FPGA development board with an 18 channel

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-12 Thread Joseph Zatarski
>> Something I forgot to note was that this instrument (the 4261A) was >> actually manufactured for HP by Yokogawa, I'm not too sure where the >> HP part ends and the Yokogawa begins, maybe it was designed by HP and >> built by Yokogawa, or maybe the whole thing was a contracted design >> for HP by

Re: HP to acquire SGI

2016-08-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 12, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > ... > I remember when HP was innovative, and made great test equipment. They still do, but that part hasn't been called HP for a long time. I figured when HP split into a test equipment company and an ink company, the outcome was obvious.

Re: HP to acquire SGI

2016-08-12 Thread Fred Cisin
If HP and Microsoft merged, would it put an end to computers? On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Paul Koning wrote: No, but it might put an end to the resulting company. Would that stop it from pushing Windoze10 "upgrade"? Note that HP didn't acquire DEC, or Palm; both had been absorbed by other companie

Re: HP to acquire SGI

2016-08-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 12, 2016, at 11:15 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: >> It was not enough to have mishandled vms, and killed palm. Now they want to >> destroy also what's left of SGI ? >> Better I don't say what I'm really thinking... > > "All tyranny needs to g

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-12 Thread Fred Cisin
Something I forgot to note was that this instrument (the 4261A) was actually manufactured for HP by Yokogawa, I'm not too sure where the HP part ends and the Yokogawa begins, maybe it was designed by HP and built by Yokogawa, or maybe the whole thing was a contracted design for HP by Yokogawa. Y

Re: R: HP to acquire SGI

2016-08-12 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: It was not enough to have mishandled vms, and killed palm. Now they want to destroy also what's left of SGI ? Better I don't say what I'm really thinking... "All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for men of good conscience to remain silent."

Re: Flex Disc options for the HP 9825

2016-08-12 Thread Paul Berger
The cable will come with the GPIO, the one you want is the 98032A option 085, but if you cannot find one of them any 98032A could be reconfigured to support a 9885. Diskettes are going to be a bigger issue, as per hpmuseum.net you will need a 9895 to be able to transfer their image to a physic

Re: SWTPC 6800

2016-08-12 Thread Brad H
I've a question.  I've now got my CT1024 working properly with my 6800.. is there an easy way to load txt loader files into it while it is still connected to the CT?  Or do I have to load something in via PC first and then swap cables? Sent from my Samsung device Original messag

Re: the value of old test and repair equipment

2016-08-12 Thread Joseph Zatarski
>The y have used Fairchild for their source. > >If so, that explains the high rate of failure. > >Years ago when at Intel, we disqualified Fairchild > >as a source for parts because of the poor testing > >and high failure rates. > >Dwight I seem to remember the 7474 that failed was actually a TI p

Re: memory map for RT-11 v 5

2016-08-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 12, 2016, at 9:28 AM, Jerome H. Fine wrote: > > ... > > V02C-02 is just one of the versions (out of about 23 versions) that are > available on the CD image at classiccmp which is available for download. > ... > What I am curious about are the two files: > ASEMBL.SAV > EXPAND.SAV > Did

Re: Tape imaging

2016-08-12 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 11, 2016, at 10:27 PM, asw...@t-online.de wrote: > > I do have two original CDC 603 tape drives with controller, but to be honest > it would be quite a challenge to hook them to a modern system. 603? My manuals don't go back that far. What kind of drive is that, and what does the co

Re: memory map for RT-11 v 5

2016-08-12 Thread Jerome H. Fine
>On Sunday, July 24th, 2016 at 22:17:24 -0700, Don North wrote: >On 7/24/2016 2:37 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >On Jul 24, 2016, at 11:06 AM, william degnan wrote: ... Attempts to boot from RT11SJ.SYS under V04.00 of RT-11 with 24K bytes of memory were successful. Attempts to boot with 16K byt

Re: HP to acquire SGI

2016-08-12 Thread Todd Killingsworth
>>Now they want to destroy also what's left of SGI ? SGI was already destroyed decades ago. With more vision, they could have transitioned the business into becoming an Nvidia instead of a faceless rack server company. Especially with the world looking into VR, the original SGI could legitimate

R: HP to acquire SGI

2016-08-12 Thread Mazzini Alessandro
It was not enough to have mishandled vms, and killed palm. Now they want to destroy also what's left of SGI ? Better I don't say what I'm really thinking... -Messaggio originale- Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Christian Liendo Inviato: venerdì 12 agosto 20

HP to acquire SGI

2016-08-12 Thread Christian Liendo
This is for all my SGI guys out there. http://insidehpc.com/2016/08/hewlett-packard-enterprise-to-acquire-sgi-to-extend-leadership-in-high-growth-big-data-analytics-and-high-performance-computing/

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-12 Thread Adrian Stoness
8i I want one for my panel rebuild project On Aug 12, 2016 3:49 AM, "Rod Smallwood" wrote: Hi Guys Well my panels made to VCF. I have had some feedback and I expect more. Currently I have stock of PDP-8/e (Types A and B) , PDP-8/f and PDP-8/m. PDP-8/i should be out of manufact

Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-12 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Guys Well my panels made to VCF. I have had some feedback and I expect more. Currently I have stock of PDP-8/e (Types A and B) , PDP-8/f and PDP-8/m. PDP-8/i should be out of manufacturing by now. Next up is PDP-8/L. -++ Order the above now +++

Re: Tape imaging

2016-08-12 Thread shadoooo
Hello Andreas, nice to see you here from time to time. I too have two TSZ07, but both had problems with the PSU after some time of good working condition. The problem was always related, as indirect cause, to bad electrolytic capacitors, however the effect was always bad. The first one in the

Re: Flex Disc options for the HP 9825

2016-08-12 Thread curiousmarc3
I got the HP 9885 single sided disk unit that was at Weird Stuff, thanks for the heads up! Now I just need a parallel interface for the 9825, a cable, the right 8" diskettes, and get my HP-IB 9895 to work... That's a lot of stars to align but that should be fun to try. Marc > On Jul 24, 2016, a

Re: Tape imaging

2016-08-12 Thread COURYHOUSE
yep think 31 is right. have RCA tr-5 quad unit looking for more quad recorders always can swap some computer stuff! Anyway the fellow I get the tr-5 from... he alsoscrapped a tr-4 and I have bies of parts when I can access the parts will check for motors! ed# In a messag

Re: Tape imaging

2016-08-12 Thread emanuel stiebler
On 2016-08-11 20:36, Al Kossow wrote: One of the highest projects I have in the queue is getting one of John's M4 9914V drives with 18 track MR heads running in my new lab at CHM. What's the interface on the 18 track head?

Re: Spam [was Re: still looking for that stuff?]

2016-08-12 Thread drlegendre .
> Spam should reduce when word gets around that spammers are being > tortured to death. I doubt it, some one will invent a religion that says tortured spammers get to heaven first.. Yeah, wow.. not to put too fine a point on it, HA! On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 1:26 AM, Dave Wade wrote: > > -