Re: Recovered a .bas file from my old Mac Plus

2017-06-06 Thread dwight via cctalk
If you still have a MAC plus handy you can experiment by making short programs and viewing them in hex. You can build up a translation dictionary that way. I've done that for other Basics in the past. You show 16 bit values, be careful they are sometimes byte swapped. The original encoding is

Re: Commodore Pet 8032 keyboard repair - conductive or capacitive?

2017-06-06 Thread David Gesswein via cctalk
On Mon, Jun 05, 2017 at 07:35:13PM -0400, Ray Arachelian wrote: > Very true, I was one of those kids back then. :-D Though to my eye, I > don't see the PCB pads worn at all, so more than likely it's the rubber. > If you haven't seen it there is stuff to repair that. I have used this on remotes

Recovered a .bas file from my old Mac Plus

2017-06-06 Thread Michael Hunter via cctalk
Hey folks, I hope all is well. Curiosity got the better of me and I sent in an EMAC external HDD I had for my old Mac Plus in for recovery. I'm happy to report that the recovery was a success. Now I'm struggling to figure out how to get at the old content :) The biggest prize was finding

Re: sticky copies and laser prints

2017-06-06 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 06/06/2017 05:58 PM, David Griffith via cctalk wrote: Often when I comb through old documentation, I find that the years, heat, and pressure appear to have remelted the toner such that pages get stuck together. Is there a danger of that happening with modern toners? Yes. If stored at

Re: sticky copies and laser prints

2017-06-06 Thread william degnan via cctalk
I would bet that there is a "best way" to open a stuck page, but I usually open very slowly to reduce damage. It's bad enough we have to worry about the machines, the disks, the batteries, the caps, the On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:

Re: sticky copies and laser prints

2017-06-06 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 06/06/2017 23:58, David Griffith via cctalk wrote: Often when I comb through old documentation, I find that the years, heat, and pressure appear to have remelted the toner such that pages get stuck together. Is there a danger of that happening with modern toners? Yes. Toner composition

Re: sticky copies and laser prints

2017-06-06 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 6, 2017, at 6:58 PM, David Griffith via cctalk > wrote: > > > Often when I comb through old documentation, I find that the years, heat, and > pressure appear to have remelted the toner such that pages get stuck > together. Is there a danger of that happening

G-series Flip Chips for trade

2017-06-06 Thread Noel Chiappa via cctalk
So I have some G-series Flip Chips that I don't have a use for, and I hope someone out there does. If so, I'd like to trade them for something I _do_ have a use for - e.g. M-series FCs. Alas, according to the "Spare Module Handbook", these seem to be pretty exotic, but maybe I'll luck out. They

Re: Serial keyboards

2017-06-06 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2017-06-06 5:40 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: If you look on the ebay for a dolch ethernet sniffer, you'll see many with no keyboard. Why would someone separate the keyboard from a box when it is clipped onto it? These are not just any keyboard. They have custom shaped cases and

RE: Serial keyboards

2017-06-06 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
Do you want complete terminals and keyboards? The reason they like the keyboards is because of the feel of the typing. Sometimes they come with the monitors, and they have no use for them, so they get dumpstered. If you look on elecshopper.com I did have about 20 of these heavy old boards, but

RE: Serial keyboards

2017-06-06 Thread Electronics Plus via cctalk
It is not often you find a 9-pin serial board with Windows keys! I might have some AT serial boards in the back, but I don't think they work on DEC machines. Cindy -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Henry Bond via cctalk Sent: Monday,

Re: Serial keyboards

2017-06-06 Thread Santo Nucifora via cctalk
I think I'm gonna get in trouble for this answer but while I am not a keyboard collector, I do buy keyboards when the opportunity arises. In my particular case, I started out with occasionally buying computers with missing keyboards because they were inexpensive; far more then when they had the

Re: Serial keyboards

2017-06-06 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
> On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:46 PM, Anthony DeStefano via cctalk > wrote: > > > >> On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:40 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: >> >> If you look on the ebay for a dolch ethernet sniffer, you'll see >> >> many with no keyboard. >> >> Why

Re: Serial keyboards

2017-06-06 Thread Anthony DeStefano via cctalk
> On Jun 6, 2017, at 4:40 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > > If you look on the ebay for a dolch ethernet sniffer, you'll see > > many with no keyboard. > > Why would someone separate the keyboard from a box when it > > is clipped onto it? > > These are not just any

Re: Serial keyboards

2017-06-06 Thread dwight via cctalk
If you look on the ebay for a dolch ethernet sniffer, you'll see many with no keyboard. Why would someone separate the keyboard from a box when it is clipped onto it? These are not just any keyboard. They have custom shaped cases and connector specifically for that model dolch. What would

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-06 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 6/6/17 11:56 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > >> On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 6/6/17 6:10 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote: >> >>> And I have cables and lots of spare heads: All submerged since Saturday. I >>> most probly

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-06 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
I'm not positive what pack washing machines used. Distilled water seems plausible, perhaps with some sort of mild cleaner. Keep in mind I'm talking about packs, no electronics there. Then again, many electronics are designed to be washed in water (as part of the manufacturing process).

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-06 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Did people actually wash disk packs with water or some electronics-friendly solution? -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Jun 6, 2017 11:56 AM, "Paul Koning via cctalk" wrote: > On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-06 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 6, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On 6/6/17 6:10 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote: > >> And I have cables and lots of spare heads: All submerged since Saturday. I >> most probly won't try to recover the packs > > If they

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-06 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 6/6/17 6:10 AM, Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk wrote: > And I have cables and lots of spare heads: All submerged since Saturday. I > most probly won't try to recover the packs If they really are that rare you may want to reconsider.

Re: Anybody has Control Data (CDC) disk packs for 841 and 844 disk drives to spare with?

2017-06-06 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
I have some submerged packs that look like the one in the auction. Wet since Saturday :-( Here's a link to the drive that I'd like to restore some day: http://www.digitalheritage.de/peripherals/cdc/854/854.htm I think I have the same :-) And I have cables and lots of spare heads: All