Re: Sold on eBay: Convergent Technologies S/50 a.k.a. Unix PC, AT&T 3B1 Unix Workstation

As I mentioned elsewhere, I worked on software for them at Burroughs ('86-'89). I picked up a bunch of B25 stuff in '03, but I could never find any software for them. In retrospect, I wish that I has stashed away B25 (and B1000 (I was one of the last people in the office supporting software on

Re: help id a chip

Agreed; unfortunately an all too common story in the tech business world (see e.g. CBM, MCM etc.). Surprised HP survived Fiorina. m - Original Message - From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" To: "william degnan" Cc: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018

Re: Sold on eBay: Convergent Technologies S/50 a.k.a. Unix PC, AT&T 3B1 Unix Workstation

There is a link with a photo in my post that you replied to. Here is another photo link - https://www.betaarchive.com/wiki/images/d/db/Windowsbyte27_%28Burroughs_B20%29.png Here is a link to a B25 type system - https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/CTOS-B25.JPG/250px-CTOS-B25.

Re: help id a chip

Yes; I first saw that package used in Series L machines and the B80 was effectively an L9000 with disk drives. m - Original Message - From: Pete Lancashire To: Mike Stein ; General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:46 PM Subject: Re: help id a chip

Re: help id a chip

Welcome. I miss my couple years at "Big B", great people to work with. Many of us though if this bozo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W._Michael_Blumenthal had not taken over Burroughs could still have made it. -pete On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:51 PM, william degnan wrote: > Fantastic, thanks.

Re: help id a chip

Fantastic, thanks. Bill On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Found it !! > > http://www.picklesnet.com/burroughs/gallery/bpgb80.htm > > 4th picture top row. > > Yikes that was long ago > > -pete > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Pete

Re: help id a chip

Found it !! http://www.picklesnet.com/burroughs/gallery/bpgb80.htm 4th picture top row. Yikes that was long ago -pete On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:43 PM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > OK it is coming back to me, if I remember correctly these were used in the > B80 which were or were to be a replac

Re: Sold on eBay: Convergent Technologies S/50 a.k.a. Unix PC, AT&T 3B1 Unix Workstation

Are there any better pictures around of the B20/21/22 ? If not, I think I still have some brochures somewhere. m - Original Message - From: "Alan Perry via cctech" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:02 PM Subject: Re: Sold on eBay: Convergent Technologies S/50 a.k.a. Unix PC, AT&

Re: help id a chip

OK it is coming back to me, if I remember correctly these were used in the B80 which were or were to be a replacement for the L/TC family there were either 5 or 8 of them that made up the CPU On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM, Mike Stein via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > The L & TC se

Re: help id a chip

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:21 PM, Anders Nelson via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > What does it do? It's pretty. > > =] > > Not sure, I have a bunch of items that need to be investigated including that one. http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/ b

Re: Weird thing ID (core stack?)

Yep, looks like a CDC stack. --tom On 1/17/18 2:24 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > Hi, > > An acquiantance was wondering about more details on this part: > > https://imgur.com/a/p1GQ2 > > It seems to be a core memory stack? But of what type? CDC? > > Any info appreciated. > --Toby >

Re: Malware history was: Spectre & Meltdown

> On Jan 17, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > >>> I used to have a tiny portable manual card punch. >>> An acquaintance used it to punch /* in the first two columns of his >>> punchcard based utility bills. (those characters have special meaning >>> to 360 JCL. They have m

Re: Malware history was: Spectre & Meltdown

I used to have a tiny portable manual card punch. An acquaintance used it to punch /* in the first two columns of his punchcard based utility bills.   (those characters have special meaning to 360 JCL.  They have multiple punches per column, so it required making a punch, then backspacing to make

Re: Passing of a valued member

Thank you Toby, for posting this, and for putting me in touch with Marc in the first place. I first met Marc in person at a talk at our university from Brian Kernighan. While I nervously asked bwk to sign my copy of C, Marc had no trouble initiating a conversation wit him. Marc managed to persuade

Passing of a valued member

To the list: It is with deep personal sadness that I write that young list member Marc Grenville-Cleave, of Dorset UK, has passed away. He was known personally to several list members. I did not have the pleasure of meeting him in person but as he was a longtime friend I wanted to write a brief c

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Frank McConnell via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On Jan 17, 2018, at 10:18, Warner Losh via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > >> http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/

Re: Malware history was: Spectre & Meltdown

On 01/17/2018 01:23 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >> We might as well all contribute. >> Back in college in 1969 > > I used to have a tiny portable manual card punch. > An acquaintance used it to punch /* in the first two columns of his > punchcard based utility bills.   (those characters have

Re: Malware history was: Spectre & Meltdown

We might as well all contribute. Back in college in 1969 I used to have a tiny portable manual card punch. An acquaintance used it to punch /* in the first two columns of his punchcard based utility bills. (those characters have special meaning to 360 JCL. They have multiple punches per col

Re: Weird thing ID (core stack?)

> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:58 PM, Christian Kennedy via cctalk > wrote: > > > > On 1/17/18 12:24 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > >> It seems to be a core memory stack? But of what type? CDC? > > Almost certainly a 6000-series core memory "block" from a PP. 6000 series central memory uses

Re: Weird thing ID (core stack?)

On 1/17/18 12:24 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > It seems to be a core memory stack? But of what type? CDC? Almost certainly a 6000-series core memory "block" from a PP. They measured 6.75 by 6.75 by 3.625 inches tall, so you might check to see if the dimensions match... -- Christian Kenne

Re: Weird thing ID (core stack?)

The marking on the connector certainly says CDC. And the next to last picture shows a black faceplate that pretty much matches what you see in 6000 computers. Look in the Thornton book (http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/cdc/cyber/books/DesignOfAComputer_CDC6600.pdf

Weird thing ID (core stack?)

Hi, An acquiantance was wondering about more details on this part: https://imgur.com/a/p1GQ2 It seems to be a core memory stack? But of what type? CDC? Any info appreciated. --Toby

Re: help id a chip

The L & TC series (among others?) used a number of those chips; I *might* even be able to look up what it did but I doubt that it'd be useful information ;-) m - Original Message - From: "Pete Lancashire via cctech" To: "william degnan" ; "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts" Sent: We

Re: Sold on eBay: Convergent Technologies S/50 a.k.a. Unix PC, AT&T 3B1 Unix Workstation

You're right, the machine I owned is the one I see from your link. The workstation you mentioned is in the same box but with a monitor and the location of the clips and led slightly different. But I was not far ;-) I don't remember what kind of hardware was exactly in this machine. Shame on me,

Re: AT&T UNIX PC 7300 (3b1) disassembly video

AJ Palmgren via cctalk writes: > While I'm thinking about it, for any/all who might be interested, just last > week, I created a step-by-step video for disassembling a UNIX PC 7300 (with > a few comments/comparisons for the 3b1) > Thanks for doing this. I've taken them apart maybe 5 or 6 times,

Re: Sold on eBay: Convergent Technologies S/50 a.k.a. Unix PC, AT&T 3B1 Unix Workstation

Are you sure? The B20, B21, B22 looked like this - http://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102662660 - and nothing like the 3B1 or the S/50. The B25 and subsequent models (which are often referred to as B20s) are modular systems that are box-shaped and got wider as "slices" were ad

Re: help id a chip

What does it do? It's pretty. =] -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Pete Lancashire via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Burroughs > > One has to love the 1/8" spacing. > > I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have

help id a chip

Can someone tell me what chip this is? http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010114.JPG http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010093.JPG http://vintagecomputer.net/pictures/2017/Objects/P1010094.JPG (note ..94/94 show the item in a sealed in storage material) the unders

Re: help id a chip

Burroughs One has to love the 1/8" spacing. I have a box of them from when I worked there. I may even have one of the very rare test sockets. The division I was in was considering using the technology. I can't remember what actually used them. Way too long ago. The plant I was in built the B7xx

Re: Malware history was: Spectre & Meltdown

On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, David C. Jenner via cctalk wrote: This isn't malware, but back in 1962 when I was taking a college class in assembly language programming for the IBM 709, my innocence led to the following. We might as well all contribute. Back in college in 1969 we would submit our Fort

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

> On Jan 17, 2018, at 10:18, Warner Losh via cctalk > wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=BBN-V6 >> >> (The latter includes NCP as well as TCP/IP.) >> > > I'm curious: does it

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > From: Charles Anthony > > > it was shipped has an "unbundled" product. > > Ah. I assumed that what had happened was that the set of source files at > MIT > was just what was in the 'last release',

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

> From: Warner Losh > I'm curious: does it inter-operate with modern TCP/IP implementations? This just a guess, but 'sort of'? It _is_ TCP/IPv4, so it's got compatible headers, but I don't know if other parts have changed enough to make it not work. E.g. it probably only supports class A

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:40 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=BBN-V6 > > (The latter includes NCP as well as TCP/IP.) > I'm curious: does it inter-operate with modern TCP/IP implementations? Warner

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

> From: Charles Anthony > it was shipped has an "unbundled" product. Ah. I assumed that what had happened was that the set of source files at MIT was just what was in the 'last release', and the NCP code had been discarded by then. I wonder if it's on a backup tape that MIT retained, som

Re: Google, Wikipedia directly on ASCII terminal?

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 11:15:48PM +0100, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 02:07:59PM -0700, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > [...] > > I doubt that will work quite like you are thinking. There is more to an > > analog phone line than the audio that comes over it. Namely th

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:40 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > From: Lars Brinkhoff > > > - Multics NCP has not been located. > > Really? It wasn't in the code dump at MIT? > > Nope; it was shipped has an "unbundled" product. -- Charles

MY COMPUTER LIKES ME when i speak in BASIC.

I scanned a nice little booklet I found in my fathers stuff. "MY COMPUTER LIKES ME when i speak in BASIC" by Bob Albrecht. http://www.datormuseum.se/documentation-software/my-computer-likes If someone feel like they can straighten it up, please do! I didn't feel like ripping it apart to have it

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

Noel Chiappa wrote: >> - Multics NCP has not been located. > Really? It wasn't in the code dump at MIT? I asked my Multics guy about it, and he said it was missing. I don't know about the code dump. > I'm not sure a VMS machine was ever on the NCP ARPANet? So maybe they > were front-ended someho

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:50 AM, Noel Chiappa via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > From: Phil Budne > > > I asked around for v6 Unix with "NCP" code when the IMP code was > > resurected, but never found it > > Yeah, that one was retrieved only recently, when Chuck managed

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

> From: Phil Budne > I asked around for v6 Unix with "NCP" code when the IMP code was > resurected, but never found it Yeah, that one was retrieved only recently, when Chuck managed to read an old dump tape I had of the MIT-CSR PWB1 Unix PDP-11. We didn't run NCP on that machine,

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

> From: Lars Brinkhoff > - Multics NCP has not been located. Really? It wasn't in the code dump at MIT? > - Unix? For V6 NCP, we have several versions: http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=SRI-NOSC http://minnie.tuhs.org/cgi-bin/utree.pl?file=BBN-V6 (The latter include

Re: Sold on eBay: Convergent Technologies S/50 a.k.a. Unix PC, AT&T 3B1 Unix Workstation

It's interesting, I had exactly the same machine a long time ago, but with a different label. It was a Burroughs B20 distributed by Unisys Dominique On 17/01/2018 06:45, AJ Palmgren via cctalk wrote: Did it happen to be one of these older-style Convergent AWS machines? http://mightyframe.blog

Re: Re: Re: HP 2108A key

Easier  just to order one  for   6 bucks off ebay. though!   In a message dated 1/16/2018 3:43:54 PM US Mountain Standard Time, dkel...@hotmail.com writes:   You know that one can always remove the pins from the lock and then any key of the right diameter will work. It won't be original but it w

Re: Reviving ARPAnet

> - Unix? I asked around for v6 Unix with "NCP" code when the IMP code was resurected, but never found it