Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 08:05, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > He also created the Canon Cat. > > His idea of a user interface included that the program should KNOW > (assume) what the user wanted to do. One of my heroes. I've never used a Cat or his other software UIs, but the demos I've seen a

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 20:47, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > I don't think that HTML can reproduce fixed page layout like PostScript > and PDF can. It can make a close approximation. But I don't think HTML > can get there. Nor do I think it should. There are a wider panoply of options to c

Re: NVRAM resuscitation (Was Re: SPARCstation 20 with SCSI2SD)

2018-11-28 Thread Gordon Henderson via cctalk
As an aside - once upon a time I worked for a company that made their own Sparc boards to fit inside a supercomputer and several of them were inside secure military/government establishments. Sometimes a board would fail and have to go back for a fix - and then the RTC/NVRAM chip had to be r

Re: Non-English programming languages was Re: Text encoding Babel.

2018-11-28 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 27, 2018, at 10:06 PM, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk > wrote: > >> Surely a Chinese or Japanese based programming language could be >> developed. > > The Tomy Pyuuta has a very limited BASIC variant called G-BASIC which has > Japanese keywords and is programmed with katakana characters

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-28 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 27, 2018, at 9:23 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > >>> I have long wondered if there are computer languages that aren't rooted >>> in English / ASCII. I feel like it's rather pompous to assume that all >>> programming languages are rooted in English / ASCII. I would hope that >

Re: NVRAM resuscitation (Was Re: SPARCstation 20 with SCSI2SD)

2018-11-28 Thread Ethan via cctalk
As an aside - once upon a time I worked for a company that made their own Sparc boards to fit inside a supercomputer and several of them were inside secure military/government establishments. Sometimes a board would fail and have to go back for a fix - and then the RTC/NVRAM chip had to be remov

Re: NVRAM resuscitation (Was Re: SPARCstation 20 with SCSI2SD)

2018-11-28 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 28, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Ethan via cctalk wrote: > >> As an aside - once upon a time I worked for a company that made their own >> Sparc boards to fit inside a supercomputer and several of them were inside >> secure military/government establishments. Sometimes a board would fail and

Re: NVRAM resuscitation (Was Re: SPARCstation 20 with SCSI2SD)

2018-11-28 Thread Jim Manley via cctalk
DEC had some employees with clearances all the way up both primary sides of the classification ladder, General Service (GENSER, which includes some "black" programs), and Special Compartmented Intelligence (SCI, which has its own alphabet soup, including other kinds of "black" programs). They need

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev (off-list)

2018-11-28 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
Hi Bob, On 11/28/2018 11:30 AM, Robert Feldman wrote: FYI, your symbols do not make it through to the list digest -- they just come through as question marks, the same as Ed Sharp's extra spaces. Thank you for letting me know. Here's a screen shot from the copy I received from the mailing lis

Re: 34 pin Card Edge “Male to Male” Connector

2018-11-28 Thread Gregory Beat via cctalk
Card Edge Connectors are PC Board to Wire Connectors. The 34-pin version was popular for control board on 5-1/4” floppy drives in 1980s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edge_connector I have not seen commercial PC board widgets used as an interconnect. gb == Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 14:56:18 -050

Re: Re: 34 pin Card Edge “Male to Male” Connector

2018-11-28 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Are the adapters from dual row header to card edge wtill available? (They were used to connect a 3.5" drive to a 5.25" drive cable) Could you put two of those back to back connected by a header? In the late 1970's in the TRS80 world, there were MALE 34 pin card edge ribbon cable connectors! wit

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-28 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove via cctalk
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 09:27, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > I learned it about 15 years ago (OpenAPL, running on a Solaris workstation > with a modified Xterm that handled the APL characters). Nice. It made a > handy tool for some cryptanalysis programs I needed to write. > I am interested i

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-28 Thread Jim Manley via cctalk
Some computing economics history: I'm an engineer and scientist by both education and experience, and one major difference between the disciplines is that engineers are required to pass coursework and demonstrate proficiency in economics. That's because we need to deliver things that actually do

Re: Re: 34 pin Card Edge “Male to Male” Connector

2018-11-28 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 1:55 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > In the late 1970's in the TRS80 world, there were MALE 34 pin card edge > ribbon cable connectors! with gold plated fingers! (used on a short > extension for drives in enclosures, and to convert expansion interface > connections to g

RE: Re: 34 pin Card Edge “Male to Male” Connector

2018-11-28 Thread William Sudbrink via cctalk
I'm not sure you're quite getting it... they say a picture is worth a thousand words: http://wsudbrink.dyndns.org:8080/images/20181128_194316.jpg Assuming I make up some gerbers myself, two questions: 1) how do you specify the slightly beveled edge required for easy insertion? 2) is there some

Re: 34 pin Card Edge “Male to Male” Connector

2018-11-28 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Nov 28, 2018, at 8:01 PM, William Sudbrink via cctalk > wrote: > > I'm not sure you're quite getting it... they say a picture is worth a > thousand words: > > http://wsudbrink.dyndns.org:8080/images/20181128_194316.jpg > > Assuming I make up some gerbers myself, two questions: > > 1)

Re: 34 pin Card Edge “Male to Male” Connector

2018-11-28 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 11/28/18 5:13 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > >> On Nov 28, 2018, at 8:01 PM, William Sudbrink via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> I'm not sure you're quite getting it... they say a picture is worth a >> thousand words: >> >> http://wsudbrink.dyndns.org:8080/images/20181128_194316.jpg >> >> As

Chaosnet for SIMH

2018-11-28 Thread Lars Brinkhoff via cctalk
Hello, I have added a Unibus CH11 Chaosnet interface to SIMH. I have tested it with 4.1BSD running on the vax780 simulator, and MINITS running on the pdp11 simulator.