RE: PDP-8/e

Nice try Josh - close – you have to change the crystal first and you can’t get them. Rod Smallwood - Digital Equipment Corporation 1975 – 1985 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Josh Dersch via cctalk Sent: 08 December 2018 06:36 To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject:

Re: PDP-8/e

On 12/8/18 1:55 AM, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Nice try Josh - close – you have to change the crystal first and you can’t get them. Dead bug a programmable epson ttl oscillator module, available from digikey

Re: PDP-8/e

On 08/12/2018 09:55, Rod G8DGR via cctalk wrote: Nice try Josh - close – you have to change the crystal first and you can’t get them. Both Farnell and Mouser UK have suitable crystals. They don't have to be the same physical size. I've changed several. -- Pete Pete Turnbull

PDP-8/ update

Well I got there in the end. HyperTerm on an old DEC Celebris running W95 Thanks for all the input Now to move some diags. over and see if we can load them Rod Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Re: Interesting RK8E fault

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 1:02 AM Josh Dersch via cctalk On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 9:58 PM Josh Dersch wrote: > > > Hi all -- > > > > Finally got all the parts together (and my act together) to actually get > > an RK05 lashed up to my PDP-8/e -- only took a decade or so :). I fixed > a > > few problems

Re: PDP-8/e

I did that sort of thing for my PDP-8/L, where the reader run drove the RS-232 "CTS" control signal and wrote a "C" program to do simple TTY emulation in DeSmet C back in the day. That code would not run in Windows of course, but it wouldn't be all that difficult for someone with a C programming b

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 6:09 PM Adrian Stoness via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org wrote: > someone should get the source off him and put it out on the web > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 4:34 PM Mattis Lind via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > wrote: > > > Den fre 7 dec. 2018 kl 23:04 skrev Al Kossow

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 10:00 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018, 6:09 PM Adrian Stoness via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org wrote: > >> someone should get the source off him and put it out on the web >> >> On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 4:34 PM Mattis Lind via cctalk < >> cctalk@classiccmp.org>

Re: PDP-8/e

> From: Jay Jaeger > That code would not run in Windows of course, but it wouldn't be all > that difficult for someone with a C programming background to move it > to Windows under gnucc, or even Microsoft C++ or C#. I highly recommend CygWin (which comes with 'gnucc) for doing C

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 7:10 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > As long as we're talking about old PDP-11 DECUS stuff I > > am still looking for a copy of: > > 11S042   Symposium Tape from the RSTS SIG, Spring 1980, > > Chicago Version: Spring 1980 > > > Of course, I would be interested in pre

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 11:16 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/8/18 7:10 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> As long as we're talking about old PDP-11 DECUS stuff I >> >> am still looking for a copy of: >> >> 11S042   Symposium Tape from the RSTS SIG, Spring 1980, >> >> Chicago Version: Spr

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 8:26 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > I also know of stuff given to USENIX > that they tossed (luckily some of that has been recovered > but I am sure much was lost permanently). Paper or USENIX tapes? The early tapes are problematic because they required source licenses

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 14:04:52 -0800 Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > On 12/7/18 1:25 PM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: > > Anyone has old DECUS distributions? > > For all intents and purposes, no > > DECUS threw them out. Not true for PDP-8 and PDP-12 DECUS. I was the last PDP-12 Coordinator for

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 9:30 AM, Lyle Bickley wrote: > On Fri, 7 Dec 2018 14:04:52 -0800 > Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > >> On 12/7/18 1:25 PM, Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote: >>> Anyone has old DECUS distributions? >> >> For all intents and purposes, no >> >> DECUS threw them out. > > Not true It IS t

Re: PDP-8/e

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 1:55 AM Rod G8DGR wrote: > Nice try Josh - close – you have to change the crystal first and you > can’t get them. > https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/ABRACON/AB-196608MHZ-B2?qs=sGAEpiMZZMukHu%252bjC5l7YUoOOqNWuembrOT4XjNGTzc%3d > > > Rod Smallwood - Digital Equipment

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:29 AM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > On 12/8/18 7:10 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > > As long as we're talking about old PDP-11 DECUS stuff I > > > > am still looking for a copy of: > > > > 11S042 Symposium Tape from the RSTS SIG, Spring 1980, > > > >

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 9:45 AM, Josh Dersch wrote: > Sounds like a great project, I'd be happy to help out. cool I also just noticed http://decuslib.com isn't responding The anonymous ftp still works, but doesn't have the zip files on it.

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 12:22 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/8/18 8:26 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: >> I also know of stuff given to USENIX >> that they tossed (luckily some of that has been recovered >> but I am sure much was lost permanently). > Paper or USENIX tapes? > > The early tapes

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

how big were the decus confrinces back in the day?

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 11:11 AM Adrian Stoness via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > how big were the decus confrinces back in the day? > The one I went to in 89 had hundreds Warner

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 9:50 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > What I know about first-hand was all the research on The > > Software Tools Virtual Operating System.  I had worked with > > it  on Pr1me and Univac-1100 back in the 80's.  I got interested > > in it again and started searching for it. 

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

The DECUS conference proceedings I've scanned gives attendance DECUS membership 1961-1972 1961 12 1962 25 1963 43 1964 202 1965 426 1966 850 1967 2008 1968 3476 1969 6054 1970 9110 1971 12213 - 5590 installation delegates, 6623 individual members. 1972 15295 - 7052

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 1:13 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 12/8/18 9:50 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > >> What I know about first-hand was all the research on The >> >> Software Tools Virtual Operating System.  I had worked with >> >> it  on Pr1me and Univac-1100 back in the 80's.  I got inte

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 10:18 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > The DECUS conference proceedings I've scanned > gives attendance arg.. membership attendance would have been much smaller

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 1:18 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > The DECUS conference proceedings I've scanned > gives attendance > > DECUS membership 1961-1972 > > 1961 12 > 1962 25 > 1963 43 > 1964 202 > 1965 426 > 1966 850 > 1967 2008 > 1968 3476 > 1969 6054 > 1970 9110 > 1971 12213 - 5590 installa

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 10:19 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > Do they include the sources?  Are they up on bitsavers anywhere? Not currently, what I have is what was released on the Languages and Tools SIG tape in RATFOR I'll put the tape images I have up as soon as I can find them. I'm trying to

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 12/8/18 10:24 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > my original DECUS Membership # was > > 368513.  Don't remember what year  but it was likely mid 80's. I just took my card out of my wallet last year. 113104, late 70s

Re: IBM SMS Data Capture - IBM 1410 update

On 12/07/2018 05:48 PM, Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: I have finished the 3rd phase of my IBM 1410 SMS computer reverse-engineering project. WOW, absolutely mind-blowing! Thanks for putting in this huge effort! Jon

Re: PDP-8/e

On 12/07/2018 09:01 PM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: On 07/12/2018 17:44, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 12/07/2018 11:22 AM, systems_glitch via cctalk wrote: Indeed, unless you need character pacing. Actually, with the correct settings of the serial port (xon/xoff or CTS pin) the serial

Re: PDP-8/e

I have used Access Port on Win. Lot easier than TeraTerm and also supports 110 Baud. http://www.sudt.com/en/index.html [http://www.sudt.com/images/sn_en_230x160.gif1zB] SUDT.com SUDT SerialNull 1.7: SerialNull is a profess

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On 2018-12-08 13:24, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > name my original DECUS Membership # was > > 368513.  Don't remember what year  but it was likely mid 80's. WOW, we were close, mine is 364059 ;-)

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

were the decus confrinces ever held in multi level parking garages? keep hearing a story of one that was so big it took over one. door prize was a rainbow 100 my dad won in 79 80?? tells me he got a membership when he was a teen i the early 70's after hanging out with the nasa guys in the 60's in t

Re: IBM SMS Data Capture - IBM 1410 update

> From: Jay Jaeger > I have finished the 3rd phase of my IBM 1410 SMS computer > reverse-engineering project. ... The ALDs comprise 752 pages from 9 of > the 11 total volumes of system schematics/engineering drawings ... It > took me roughly 375 hours of time (probably more lik

Re: SunOS 2.4 Expliot (Re: Old Sparcstations

Yes, boot -s should have worked; also, once you have access to the passwd file by mounting the disk on a different system, you could just edit the file to remove the root password. On 12/7/18, 4:20 AM, "cctech on behalf of Frank McConnell via cctech" wrote: On Dec 6, 2018, at 10:39, Jeff

Re: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

When did the DECUS purge occur? Marc On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:26 AM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > On 12/8/18 11:16 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > > > On 12/8/18 7:10 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > > >> As long as we're talking about old PDP-11 DE

Re: Interesting RK8E fault

Are you using the same pack for the 8 and the 11 On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:54 AM Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018, 1:02 AM Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 9:58 PM Josh Dersch wrote: > > > > > Hi all -- > > > > > > Finally got all the parts together

seagate 801-> Q-bus interface

Does anyone know who made a controller for a Seagate 800 or 801 floppy that will plug into the Q-bus? Model numbers wound be nice to. Thanks, Paul

Re: seagate 801-> Q-bus interface

On 12/8/18 3:48 PM, Paul Anderson via cctalk wrote: Does anyone know who made a controller for a Seagate 800 or 801 floppy that will plug into the Q-bus? Model numbers wound be nice to. Thanks, Paul Dilog DQ419 Sigma SDC RXV31 Jerry

Conferences/Exhibitions (Was: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: were the decus confrinces ever held in multi level parking garages? keep hearing a story of one that was so big it took over one. door prize was a rainbow 100 my dad won in 79 80?? tells me he got a membership when he was a teen i the early 70'

Re: Conferences/Exhibitions (Was: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

neat you should scan those and put em up on bit savers or somthing On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 3:56 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: > > were the decus confrinces ever held in multi level parking garages? keep > > hearing a story of one that was s

Re: Conferences/Exhibitions (Was: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

I still have some miscellaneous copies of the show guide/directory from a number of years. On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, Adrian Stoness wrote: neat you should scan those and put em up on bit savers or somthing I don't have a suitable scanner, and no longer have my paper shear. They are about 6?x8? x 1.

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

On 12/8/18 3:10 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: WOW! Ya. That is the first TRULY obviously and unarguably spam post that I've seen make it past the cctech moderation! I didn't think that subscribers were subject to moderation. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

That is the first TRULY obviously and unarguably spam post that I've seen make it past the cctech moderation! On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: I didn't think that subscribers were subject to moderation. HempOil is subscribed to cctech??!? Well, mistakes happen? Maybe give

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

On 12/8/18 3:57 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: HempOil is subscribed to cctech??!? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Well, mistakes happen? Yep. Maybe give them a few minutes to APOLOGIZE and donate a significant infusion of server hardware? I wouldn't hold my breath. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

On 12/8/18 4:43 PM, Michael Mulhern wrote: We are the spambot challenge? Something like that. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

On 12/8/18 7:36 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 12/8/18 4:43 PM, Michael Mulhern wrote: >> We are the spambot challenge? > > Something like that. > > > Until people started commenting on it I never saw it.  It was flagged as SPAM and never showed up in my INBOX. bill

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

On 12/8/18 4:43 PM, Michael Mulhern wrote: We are the spambot challenge? On 12/8/18 7:36 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: Something like that. On Sun, 9 Dec 2018, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Until people started commenting on it I never saw it.  It was flagged as SPAM and never sho

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

On 12/8/18 6:44 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: And, other than the mention of it by Grant, I never got Michael Mulhern's message. Um … Fred, I replied to your email, which was itself a reply to the spam message. On 12/8/18 3:10 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: WOW! That is the first TRUL

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

Yes. I replied to the spam, as shown below, although I switched it from cctech to cctalk. You replied to me, saying subscribers weren't moderated. I got that. I replied to you, questioning whether hempoil was subscribed. You replied to that. I got that. AND, you replied to the one from Michae

Re: Conferences/Exhibitions (Was: DECUS PDP-11 SPACE WAR?

cool On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 4:21 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> I still have some miscellaneous copies of the show guide/directory from > a > >> number of years. > > On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, Adrian Stoness wrote: > > neat you should scan those and put em up on bit savers or somthing > > I don't

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

simlar chain for me On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 8:29 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Yes. > I replied to the spam, as shown below, although I switched it from cctech > to cctalk. > You replied to me, saying subscribers weren't moderated. I got that. > I replied to you, questioning whether hempoil

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

On 12/8/18 7:28 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: AND, you replied to the one from Michael Mulhern: Other than your reply to Michael Mulhern's message, I never received the post from Michael Mulhern that you were replying to: Ah. I misunderstood your comment to be about the reply to the origin

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: Ah. I misunderstood your comment to be about the reply to the original spam email. Sorry for the confusion. I'll go back to my corner now. Quite alright. I'm concerned about never getting a message, but not a big deal, and I think that I g

Re: Hemp Oil Gummies That Improve Cardiovascular Health

On 12/8/18 8:27 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Quite alright. :-) I'm concerned about never getting a message, but not a big deal, and I think that I got all of yours. It sounds like there might be a couple of mailing lists in play, cctalk (which I email) and cctech. I know that there is history,

Re: Interesting RK8E fault

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 7:24 PM Paul Anderson via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Are you using the same pack for the 8 and the 11 > I connected the drive I normally use with my 11/40 to the 8/e for testing to help narrow down where the fault was. I used a 16-sector pack in all cases. -

Re: meHp lOi semimuG

On Sat, Dec 08, 2018 at 06:28:51PM -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Yes. > I replied to the spam, as shown below, although I switched it from > cctech to cctalk. [...] > Other than your reply to Michael Mulhern's message, I never received > the post from Michael Mulhern that you were replying

Re: Interesting RK8E fault

> On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk > wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 7:24 PM Paul Anderson via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> Are you using the same pack for the 8 and the 11 >> > > I connected the drive I normally use with my 11/40 to the 8/e for testing

Re: Interesting RK8E fault

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 10:33 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: > > > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 7:24 PM Paul Anderson via cctalk < > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > >> Are you using the same pack for the 8 and

Re: Interesting RK8E fault

> On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:36 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 10:33 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr > wrote: > > > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 7:24 PM Paul Anderson v

Re: Interesting RK8E fault

On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 10:43 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr wrote: > > On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:36 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018 at 10:33 PM Guy Sotomayor Jr > wrote: > >> >> > On Dec 8, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Josh Dersch via cctalk < >> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: >> > >> > On Sat, Dec 8, 2018

Re: seagate 801-> Q-bus interface

On 12/8/18 4:48 PM, Paul Anderson via cctalk wrote: > Does anyone know who made a controller for a Seagate 800 or 801 floppy that > will plug into the Q-bus? Model numbers wound be nice to. > > Thanks, Paul Andromeda made one.  UDC11.  And you needed A "Personality Card", WPC8F.  I have a couple