Re: Scanning docs for bitsavers

2019-12-02 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/2/19 9:06 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: In my opinion, PDFs are the last place that computer usable data goes. Because getting anything out of a PDF as a data source is next to impossible. Sure, you, a human, can read it and consume the data. Try importing a simple table from a

Re: Scanning docs for bitsavers

2019-12-02 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/2/19 8:20 PM, Alexandre Souza via cctalk wrote: I cannot understand your problems with PDF files. My problem with PDFs starts where most people stop using them. Take the average PDF of text, try to copy and paste the text into a text file. (That may work.) Now try to edit a piece of

Re: Scanning docs for bitsavers

2019-12-02 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
I cannot understand your problems with PDF files. I've created lots and lots of PDFs, with treated and untreated scanned material. All of them are very readable and in use for years. Of course, garbage in, garbage out. I take the utmost care in my scans to have good enough source files, so I can

Re: P112

2019-12-02 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/2/19 8:36 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > > The menu you get when you hit Escape on startup has an option for > > setting a floppy as 8". Mine is ROM 5.7 which I believe is the next > > to last. Unless it is different than the other CP/M systems I have > > FORMAT should have

Re: Scanning docs for bitsavers

2019-12-02 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 12/2/19 5:34 PM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: Interesting comments Guy. I'm completely naive when it comes to scanning things for preservation. Your comments do pass my naive understanding. But PDF literally cannot be used as a wrapper for the results, since it doesn't incorporate the

Re: P112

2019-12-02 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> The menu you get when you hit Escape on startup has an option for > setting a floppy as 8". Mine is ROM 5.7 which I believe is the next > to last. Unless it is different than the other CP/M systems I have > FORMAT should have no hardware dependent code in it. It was the OS > that tracked

Re: P112

2019-12-02 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/2/19 4:55 PM, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote: > > Well, I have the dBit FDADAP. Works great. I have used them before > > on a PC to access PDP-11 disks from PUTR and E11. The P112 claims to > > support 8" but I am finding it unlikely. If it (well, at least the > > OSes it runs)

Re: Scanning docs for bitsavers

2019-12-02 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
At 01:57 PM 2/12/2019 -0700, you wrote: >On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:51 PM Jay Jaeger via cctalk >wrote: > >> When I corresponded with Al Kossow about format several years ago, he >> indicated that CCITT Group 4 lossless compression was their standard. >> > >There are newer bilevel encodings that

Re: The Internet Archive

2019-12-02 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 6:44 PM ben via cctalk wrote: > Well it is good thing, but the REAL Hyper-media is yet to come. > PROJECT XANADU *Founded 1960 * The Original Hypertext Project > The Foonly is not a /360. The Foonly is more like a -10. The Foonly is faster than lightning. Oh, I'll get my

Re: 3" disks Was: InfoWorld - May 11, 1992 (3" disk formats)

2019-12-02 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 04:26 PM 12/2/2019, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >Thank you. >I haven't heard from Brett Glass in decades, since he moved to Idaho. He ran >the numbers and decided that the differential in market value between his >housing here and similar in Idaho was enough to support him for quite a

3" disks Was: InfoWorld - May 11, 1992 (3" disk formats)

2019-12-02 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Thank you. I haven't heard from Brett Glass in decades, since he moved to Idaho. He ran the numbers and decided that the differential in market value between his housing here and similar in Idaho was enough to support him for quite a while. Since he was working as a writer, he didn't have to

Re: P112

2019-12-02 Thread Dennis Boone via cctalk
> Well, I have the dBit FDADAP. Works great. I have used them before > on a PC to access PDP-11 disks from PUTR and E11. The P112 claims to > support 8" but I am finding it unlikely. If it (well, at least the > OSes it runs) don't even know it only has 77 tracks I can't see how > anyone

Re: Scanning docs for bitsavers

2019-12-02 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 8:51 PM Jay Jaeger via cctalk wrote: > When I corresponded with Al Kossow about format several years ago, he > indicated that CCITT Group 4 lossless compression was their standard. > There are newer bilevel encodings that are somewhat more efficient than G4 (ITU-T T.6),

Re: P112

2019-12-02 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 12/2/19 11:31 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > > As far as 8-inch drives are concerned, you would need to do exactly > everything you would need to do to hook up an 8-inch drive to a PC, > since the P112 uses a PC SuperIO chip for the FDC, and the floppy > headers have PC pinouts and signal

Re: P112

2019-12-02 Thread Lamar Owen via cctalk
On 11/29/19 7:01 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Let's try again with the right name in the Subject line! It's not really classic (although it does try to pretend to be but does anyone here do anything with the P112 SBC? I am trying to get 8" disks running on it but I am seeing some

191202 Classic equipment available & my bad year.

2019-12-02 Thread Dave Dunfield via cctalk
Hi, made a number of updates to the sale pages on my site, and brought back a copy of my commercial site (good for downloads). Unfortunately I screwed up the .html pages and lost some links. Should all me fixed now. Added an FAQ some more parts (eg: 8008 CPI for MOD8), some sample pricing

InfoWorld - May 11, 1992 (3" disk formats)

2019-12-02 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
I thought this was fun; stumbled upon it while looking for what words of wisdom Fred had to share about the format of 3" disks: