On Nov 17, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk
mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote:
Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise
for using that nickname. :-(
Liam, …. does it actually make it better that you were posting to the wrong
list?
I say this without
When I expanded my network between floors in my own home, I dropped the
10Base$ stuff, moved to 10Base2 because I could drill a small hole with
long 1/4" drill bit, just above the toe molding and snake the RG58 cable
through it. RG8 would have required a much larger hole. Later, I used
the RG8
On 11/17/20 8:53 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
Most "Merikens" just let the bank do the conversion when they buy
from overseas.
On 11/17/20 8:03 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise
for using that nickname. :-(
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020,
> > If you have an older pre-C99 system, I've backported a TLS 1.2 library to
> > gcc versions as early as 2.5 as long as it has 64-bit ints (long long,
> > usually) and stdarg.h.
> >
> > https://github.com/classilla/cryanc
>
> That looks interesting. I'm sure I'll end up playing with that at
Most "Merikens" just let the bank do the conversion when they buy
from overseas.
On 11/17/20 8:03 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise
for using that nickname. :-(
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Don't feel bad
On 11/17/20 8:03 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
Most "Merikens" just let the bank do the conversion when they buy
from overseas.
Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise
for using that nickname. :-(
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> > Those seem rather high priced to me.
>
> Ya. They are actually (just barely) higher than I can find them on eBay
> ($20).
>
> Maybe I'm being a cheapskate. I like the $5 price a lot better. I think
> that's much closer to what I paid at
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 15:36, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
wrote:
>
> Most "Merikens" just let the bank do the conversion when they buy
> from overseas.
Argh! I was not posting to the list that I thought I was. I apologise
for using that nickname. :-(
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On 2020-11-16 1:34 p.m., Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote:
> If you have an older pre-C99 system, I've backported a TLS 1.2 library to gcc
> versions as early as 2.5 as long as it has 64-bit ints (long long, usually)
> and stdarg.h.
>
> https://github.com/classilla/cryanc
That looks interesting.
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 7:07 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 11/17/20 3:05 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
>> That's true for either kind. Also remember to put the terminators only at
>> the ends. I've seen magazine articles showing a terminator in the middle
>> (on a T
On 11/17/20 4:45 PM, John-Paul Stewart via cctalk wrote:
Those seem rather high priced to me.
Ya. They are actually (just barely) higher than I can find them on eBay
($20).
Maybe I'm being a cheapskate. I like the $5 price a lot better. I
think that's much closer to what I paid at
On 11/17/20 12:55 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
For those who might be curious, the screw-on type AUI were a
requirement for TEMPEST installs back in the day. I used to have a
bunch of them, too. TEMPEST PC's would have a short cable going from
the network card (frequently Western
On 11/17/20 4:22 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Biggest problem was keeping the building electricians from grounding
the terminators at both ends.
Didn't the building electricians know that they should not ground both
ends of ground wire, lest they introduce sneak currents?
Or am I
On 11/17/20 3:05 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
That's true for either kind. Also remember to put the terminators
only at the ends. I've seen magazine articles showing a terminator
in the middle (on a T connector)!
How?!
The T is inherently three points; up-stream (cable), NIC,
On 2020-11-17 3:22 p.m., Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk wrote:
>
> In maybe 2 minutes of clicking I found these reasonably priced and using
> standard slidelock assemblies, sold brand new on both sides of the pond:
>
> http://www.computercableinc.com/ccinc/products.jsp?sub=AUI+Transceiver=2041
>
On 11/17/20 5:05 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Agony? Considering the alternatives to compare it to at the time
not really much agony.
(Sorry for the blank response,
On 11/17/20 4:57 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Agony? Considering the alternatives to compare it to at the time
not really much agony.
(Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has moved the buttons!)
At any rate, I'll
On 11/17/20 2:57 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
(Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has moved the
buttons!)
If an extra blank reply is the worst that happens today, then I think
it's a good day.
At any rate, I'll take 10Base2 over 10Base5 any day. Lots of BNC
fittings I
On 11/17/20 2:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
Agony? Considering the alternatives to compare it to at the time
not really much agony.
Would you please enlighten me (us?) and regale some tales of agony?
--
Grant. . . .
unix || die
On 11/17/20 1:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
No, the AUI was the standard DA-15 to the 10Base5 transceiver;
forgive my clumsy response.
Thank you for clarifying. I considered it more likely that you had
typed correctly and there was yet another thing that I was ignorant
about. ;-)
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:57 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Agony? Considering the alternatives to compare it to at the time
>> not really much agony.
>
> (Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has moved the
On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> Agony? Considering the alternatives to compare it to at the time
> not really much agony.
(Sorry for the blank response, but my email client has moved the buttons!)
At any rate, I'll take 10Base2 over 10Base5 any day. Lots of BNC
On 11/17/20 1:03 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
> On 11/17/20 3:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>> On 11/17/20 11:06 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
>>> On 11/17/20 11:54 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think) that terminated
On 11/17/20 3:12 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
On 11/17/20 11:06 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 11/17/20 11:54 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think) that terminated
their thicknet coax in 15-pin AUI connectors. Never could figure out
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> One is from Black Box, at an insane price, with actual AUI style (slide
> lock) connectors.
>
> There are several others that are much less expensive, with regular
> screw lock DA-15 connectors. And of course cables with those connectors
>
On 11/17/20 11:06 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> On 11/17/20 11:54 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>> There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think) that terminated
>> their thicknet coax in 15-pin AUI connectors. Never could figure out
>> the reason for that--it seemed like a very
On 11/17/20 2:50 PM, Richard Cini via cctalk wrote:
I built a bulkhead cable for the DEQNA card using a shielded (but untwisted)
joystick extension cable. Ultimately, I found the actual bulkhead cable, but
mine worked just fine. Granted, it was only 1-foot long, but untwisted probably
There's another possible solution, if you don't trust plain cables: make your
own. The spec is quite clear in the Ethernet specification.
paul
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Richard Cini wrote:
>
> I built a bulkhead cable for the DEQNA card using a shielded (but untwisted)
>
On 11/17/20 2:46 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk
wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing to sell?
I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will eventually* need them
for my
I built a bulkhead cable for the DEQNA card using a shielded (but untwisted)
joystick extension cable. Ultimately, I found the actual bulkhead cable, but
mine worked just fine. Granted, it was only 1-foot long, but untwisted probably
wouldn't matter for a short length as Paul mentioned.
Rich
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing to
> sell?
>
> I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will eventually* need
> them for my 10Base5 / Thicknet / Hosepipe
On 11/17/20 11:54 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
There was at least one vendor (Artisoft, I think) that terminated
their thicknet coax in 15-pin AUI connectors. Never could figure
out the reason for that--it seemed like a very awkward setup.
The /coax/ was terminated in a 15-pin AUI
On 11/17/20 10:20 AM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote:
>
> Too bad they weren't this valuable a few years ago. When I was still
> working my department moved to a new building at the University. We
> were seeing our space greatly reduced and being a pack rat was no longer
> a valid option. I
> > HGST. 4TB seem really good.
>
> or the equivalent Toshiba
>
> 4TB Hitachi drives have been REALLY reliable for me.
3rd (or fourth that). I have 20 of them in my NAS. Great drives. Seagate
enterprise drives have been good to me as well... but those are from a
different era when Seagate
On 11/17/20 1:10 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
On 11/17/20 10:21 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
You can actually make these yourself if you can't buy them. There are,
I think 5 twisted pairs in a shield.
A LONG time ago, I made a few of them when I needed them right now.
Interesting.
On 11/17/20 10:21 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
You can actually make these yourself if you can't buy them. There are, I
think 5 twisted pairs in a shield.
A LONG time ago, I made a few of them when I needed them right now.
Interesting.
Thank you for the information Jon.
I might prefer
On 11/17/2020 10:12 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
Hi,
Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they
would be willing to sell?
I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will
eventually* need them for my 10Base5 / Thicknet / Hosepipe
network segment.
You can
On 11/16/20 9:37 PM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
HGST. 4TB seem really good.
or the equivalent Toshiba
4TB Hitachi drives have been REALLY reliable for me.
On Mon, 16 Nov 2020 21:27:45 -0600
Richard Pope via cctalk wrote:
> Hello all,
> In the opinions of you experts out there considering reliability
> being number one on the list with speed be number two on the list what
> would you folks consider to be the best SATA drives on the market?
>
Hi,
Does anyone have any AUI cables for 10Base5 that they would be willing
to sell?
I'm looking for a couple of them 1-2 meters long. I will eventually*
need them for my 10Base5 / Thicknet / Hosepipe network segment.
In ham radio net style, chat on list, and conduct business directly /
On 11/17/20 8:54 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 10:26, Peter Corlett via cctalk
wrote:
Five MyBooks bought 18 months ago had debranded He8 disks in there: very nice.
The three Elements a few months back have (non-SMR) WD Reds in them, which is
OK. Three more are
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 at 10:26, Peter Corlett via cctalk
wrote:
> Five MyBooks bought 18 months ago had debranded He8 disks in there: very nice.
> The three Elements a few months back have (non-SMR) WD Reds in them, which is
> OK. Three more are supposedly turning up tomorrow.
Oh blast, I wish I
Interesting read,
What is your opinion of the Seagate exos 7e8 units ? (and does SED make any
difference in ensuring a bit more quality of the platters)
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On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 12:37:23AM -0500, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> HGST. 4TB seem really good.
I have a half-dozen of those in raidz2 on my workstation and can confirm. HGST
disks are good enough that WD bought them, declared them to be so good that
they are clearly Enterprise
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