Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Aug 1, 2021, at 5:51 PM, William Donzelli wrote: > >> z/OS runs on IBM Mainframes, there is also “IBM i”, which was previously >> called OS/400. >> >> Last I checked, GCOS-8 is still running, but with Itanium end-of-life, I’m >> not sure what on. It’s been a niche market for decades.

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2021-08-01 1:14 p.m., Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: On Aug 1, 2021, at 7:10 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: CP/M is surprisingly alive for something so old and rudimentary and seeing some activity, e.g. CPMish, but I don't think anyone would claim it has much of a future. CCP/M is dead

Re: Reading MT/ST tapes

2021-08-01 Thread Len Shustek via cctalk
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 18:37:17 -0500 From: Cory Heisterkamp This is a bit of a long shot, but is anyone aware of a successful method to read IBM Selectric MT/ST tapes? A museum in Australia has a box of them and are interested in the contents. At the Computer History Museum we

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> And that like IBM still being able to run S/360 programs Unisys 2200 > can still run Univac 1100 programs. And that MCP and OS2200 put everyone else to shame in the security arena... Because they thought about it back in the 1960s. -- Will

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 8/1/21 8:51 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: z/OS runs on IBM Mainframes, there is also “IBM i”, which was previously called OS/400. Last I checked, GCOS-8 is still running, but with Itanium end-of-life, I’m not sure what on. It’s been a niche market for decades. I’d argue that it

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> z/OS runs on IBM Mainframes, there is also “IBM i”, which was previously > called OS/400. > > Last I checked, GCOS-8 is still running, but with Itanium end-of-life, I’m > not sure what on. It’s been a niche market for decades. I’d argue that it > was a serious niche when I was using it in

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 8/1/21 11:45 AM, brainded ben via cctalk wrote: I suspect if they had the proper virtual memory, it would have been picked up as a Unix cpu Pull your head out of your ass. Unisoft had a very profitable business porting Unix to 68000 computers (note, NOT 68010) The Apple Lisa's 68000 ran

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Would the 68K have succeeded if it were not for Apple and Commodore? Without your engineering expertise, I would still say, "YES". (I was reading Infoworld, etc., as compared to you designing the machines) Before we heard anything about Apple

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/1/21 11:45 AM, ben via cctalk wrote: > I suspect if they had the proper virtual memory, it would have been picked > up as a Unix cpu, instead. It is the only common non segemented 16 bit > cpu I can think in that time frame. There were ways around that. You could run two, with one slightly

RE: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of ben via cctalk > Sent: 01 August 2021 19:46 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What > We Have Lost" > > On 2021-08-01 12:32 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > > Would

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 1, 2021, at 2:45 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > > On 2021-08-01 12:32 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> Would the 68K have succeeded if it were not for Apple and Commodore? >> --Chuck > I suspect if they had the proper virtual memory, it would have been picked > up as a Unix

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2021-08-01 12:32 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Would the 68K have succeeded if it were not for Apple and Commodore? --Chuck I suspect if they had the proper virtual memory, it would have been picked up as a Unix cpu, instead. It is the only common non segemented 16 bit cpu I can

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/1/21 10:52 AM, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 2021-08-01 11:17 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> The lack of interest in the classic/vintage computing segments is a bit >> surprising, since many of these MCUs far exceed the computing power of >> many legacy platforms. >> >> Silicon is

Re: Help reading a 9 track tape

2021-08-01 Thread Tom Uban via cctalk
Hi Jim, I have a 9track drive hooked to my old Sun IPX which may be able to read your tape. I am in Valapraiso IN if you are up for a drive. Best, --tom On 7/30/21 1:02 PM, James Liu via cctech wrote: > Hi, > > I have been lurking for a few years, but thought I'd finally speak up > as I just

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2021-08-01 11:17 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: The lack of interest in the classic/vintage computing segments is a bit surprising, since many of these MCUs far exceed the computing power of many legacy platforms. Silicon is cheap. Only with good marketing, and lucky designs like the

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/1/21 9:14 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > On Aug 1, 2021, at 7:10 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: >> CP/M is surprisingly alive for something so old and rudimentary and >> seeing some activity, e.g. CPMish, but I don't think anyone would >> claim it has much of a future. CCP/M is

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Aug 1, 2021, at 7:10 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > CP/M is surprisingly alive for something so old and rudimentary and > seeing some activity, e.g. CPMish, but I don't think anyone would > claim it has much of a future. CCP/M is dead although I think Toshiba > just about supports 4680

Re: Unidentified IBM Module / Package

2021-08-01 Thread Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk
> On Aug 1, 2021, at 8:28 AM, William Donzelli wrote: > > I think those are IBM Q-Pacs, mil spec modules for the Informer computers. > > -- > Will > > On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 1:53 AM Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk > wrote: >> >> Does anyone recognize these IBM modules? My gut says late 50’s

Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What We Have Lost"

2021-08-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 04:21, Tony Aiuto via cctalk wrote: > > I would argue that this is totally wrong. iOS, Which is a Unix. Derived from Mac OS X, which is an Open Group certified UNIX™. > Android A Linux distro. > and other mobile > systems, QNX as in Blackberry 10? A Unix. Jolla

Re: Ian Hirschsohn - DISSPLA, Superset Inc. and sad news

2021-08-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 31 Jul 2021 at 07:56, Randy Dawson via cctalk wrote: > Well, he is dead I find out, killed last year in Mexico is what the news > says, buried in a well with his wife. They went often, many times a year.

Re: Unidentified IBM Module / Package

2021-08-01 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
I think those are IBM Q-Pacs, mil spec modules for the Informer computers. -- Will On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 1:53 AM Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk wrote: > > Does anyone recognize these IBM modules? My gut says late 50’s based on the > transistor packages and font. Perhaps for a contract or