[cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet]

2022-08-21 Thread W2HX via cctalk
I always thought it was interesting how 5 1/4 is 3U (rack units). I thought there might have been some relationship to that. But could have been just coincidence. 73 Eugene W2HX Subscribe to my Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/w2hx-channel/videos -Original Message- From: Tom

[cctalk] PiDP-8/I Spacewar on Pi HDMI Display

2022-08-21 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
Updated information: I have the Pi Console up and running a getty shell on the VT-220 (as 9600 baud). I start the Oscars OpenVG client with *./sw2 localhost *I have this same issue whether I am using an ssh shell or the VT-220 shell. ** The spacewars game comes up on the HDMI display

[cctalk] PiDP-8/I Spacewar on Pi HDMI Display

2022-08-21 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
I am trying to run spacewar (IF-4) on my PiDP-8/I with the video running on the PI HDMI monitor and the keyboard being my VT-220 attached via USB to RS-232 adapter. I am able run OS/8 on the VT-220. I am able to run spacewar running with the remote VC8E program on my Windows box (port )

[cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet]

2022-08-21 Thread Tom Gardner via cctalk
Sorry, there was no “U” consideration in the FH 5¼-inch form factor decision. It is 5.75 in × 3.25 in × 8 in; none of these have integer "U" relationships. SA engineering studied the various 8-track tape drives then available and found no standard form factor so they picked a set of numbers

[cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet]

2022-08-21 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
https://www.foryourparty.com/cocktail-napkins -- Chris Elmquist > On Aug 21, 2022, at 4:45 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > > On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, Ali wrote: >> You should just do it and add a teeny tiny disclaimer at the bottom >> regarding the veracity of the story. It would make for

[cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet]

2022-08-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Mon, 22 Aug 2022, W2HX wrote: I always thought it was interesting how 5 1/4 is 3U (rack units). I thought there might have been some relationship to that. But could have been just coincidence. I think that it is related. I think that the drive (not the diskette) was apparently intended to

[cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet]

2022-08-21 Thread Tom Gardner via cctalk
>-Original Message- >From: Fred Cisin [mailto:ci...@xenosoft.com] >Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2022 12:31 PM >To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts >Subject: [cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet] >On Sun,

[cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet]

2022-08-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
BTW, I first heard the story in the late 1980s? My recollection was that it was in a sidebar in a magazine article. I can't currently find that. Massaro's denial of it

[cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet]

2022-08-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, Ali wrote: You should just do it and add a teeny tiny disclaimer at the bottom regarding the veracity of the story. It would make for a great gag gift! Or if you want to get real fancy have a QR code that can be scanned on each napkin for a site with more detailed

[cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet]

2022-08-21 Thread Ali via cctalk
RESENT FOR LEGIBILITY >I seriously considered getting some custom >napkins printed up (bars >sometimes have personalized napkins; 5.25" is >available, although these >days, bars usually use smaller, just to keep from >making rings on the >tables), with just the outline of a 5.25" disk

[cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet]

2022-08-21 Thread Ali via cctalk
>I seriously considered getting some custom >napkins printed up (bars >>sometimes have personalized napkins; 5.25" is >available, although these >>days, bars usually use smaller, just to keep from >making rings on the >>tables), with just the outline of a 5.25" disk jacket >printed on them

[cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet]

2022-08-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, Tom Gardner via cctalk wrote: The only person who ever promulgated the "Dr. Wang bar napkin" story was Jim Porter who was not in any way involved with the decision as to the size of the 5½ drive or media size and only began telling his tale many years after the decision.

[cctalk] Re: Wang bar napkin story [WAS:RE: Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet]

2022-08-21 Thread Tom Gardner via cctalk
The only person who ever promulgated the "Dr. Wang bar napkin" story was Jim Porter who was not in any way involved with the decision as to the size of the 5½ drive or media size and only began telling his tale many years after the decision. Both Massaro and Adkisson deny there was ever such a

[cctalk] Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet

2022-08-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 21 Aug 2022, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Thinking about it a bit more, I wonder if the standard "litany" for retrying read errors on floppies was due to the disc-and-follower of the SA400, more so than the leadscrew of the Micropolis. I doubt that there's much of a difference with

[cctalk] Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet

2022-08-21 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
Thinking about it a bit more, I wonder if the standard "litany" for retrying read errors on floppies was due to the disc-and-follower of the SA400, more so than the leadscrew of the Micropolis. I doubt that there's much of a difference with the taut-band mechs. Anyway, the litany runs like this:

[cctalk] Re: "Revival" of a dedicated Micropolis webpage on internet

2022-08-21 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Sat, Aug 20, 2022 at 01:26:44PM -0700, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: [...] > > Oh, I am well aware that you know far more about such things than I > ever did, nor ever will. > I was explaining it for the youngsters on the list, who may not have > ever encountered such. And, who might not even