[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
> On the matter of the interest of the younger generation, I had 25 years > of teaching at the end of my career as a point of observation. I > frequently went into stories to explain how things that I taught matter > > > As I get older (71 this year) I wonder if there are really enough people >

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Nigel Johnson Ham via cctalk
I hear you there! I started out as a junior FE on the Univac 418 in 1971. Back then the console was a modified TeleType and no problem seeing the characters as the wove across the page at 10 cps! Over my career, starting with 80x24 video terminals (VT05, VT52, VT100 and clones) I was excited

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
My first emulator was for the Coleco ADAM back in the 1990’s. I bought the ADAM in 1984 and watched a community grow up around it in various locations across Canada and the US. The ADAM-con conventions began in 1989 in Orlando. Emulation began in the 1990’s as a response to the continued interest

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread ben via cctalk
Don't get your mind get old. It’s a choice. My mind is fine, it the eyes that are going. Screens are getting bigger and text is getting smaller. I must be dreaming that.

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-05-19 9:14 a.m., Tarek Hoteit via cctalk wrote: A friend of a friend had a birthday gathering. Everyone there was in their thirties, except for myself, my wife, and our friend. Anyway, I met a Google engineer, a Microsoft data scientist, an Amazon AWS recruiter (I think she was a

[cctalk] Re: NTSC TV demodulator

2024-05-19 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 19 May 2024, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: I have a couple of 70s/80s "home" computers (e.g. Radio Shack Color Computer) that are intended to connect to a TV set. They don't have easily available composite video, even internally, only modulated RF output. Currently I have an old CRT TV

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Brian L. Stuart via cctalk
I suppose this makes a good point for me to jump in with my 20 milli-dollarsworth.  To establish context, I'm in the middle to upper part of the age rangeat 62.  My first contact with a computer was my cousin's Altair around '76or '77.  The first exposure to information about computing were a

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
You're right in that the IBM unit record batch EAM stuff is mainly 'only' interesting in a historical sense (although ISTR that there were a (very) few games that you could play on them); they evolved into the mainframes we know and love. I find them interesting from a 'system' PoV: when you're

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 19, 2024, at 11:14 AM, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk > wrote: > > A friend of a friend had a birthday gathering. Everyone there was in their > thirties, except for myself, my wife, and our friend. Anyway, I met a Google > engineer, a Microsoft data scientist, an Amazon AWS recruiter (I

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
But, Bill, maybe you did influence at least one student or more when you showed them the PDP or VAX. Perhaps we don't know who, but we have to keep believing that we are influencing someone somewhere. The fact that you are 73 (Jon also said he is in his 70s) and your passion is rock solid is

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
In my post about the accounting machine era I forgot to mention that of course they were all programmable; the mechanical versions used different length pins, sometimes custom made with a special tool, that went into a 'magazine' to define the various columns and the operations to be performed

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 5/19/24 10:57, Sellam Abraham via cctalk wrote: I am seeing this hobby growing beyond my own expectations, and a lot of younger people are coming into it. Yes, I have been to two Vintage Computer Fests at the Chicago location.  Most of the people there are fairly young.  There are some

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 5/19/2024 11:14 AM, Tarek Hoteit via cctalk wrote: A friend of a friend had a birthday gathering. Everyone there was in their thirties, except for myself, my wife, and our friend. Anyway, I met a Google engineer, a Microsoft data scientist, an Amazon AWS recruiter (I think she was a

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 9:13 AM Mike Stein via cctalk wrote: > What I find a little sad is that the accounting machine world has been > almost entirely ignored. > > The punched card batch processing systems such as IBM's 402/403/407 > machines and peripherals are documented and even still in

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
Well my interest in computers started in my teens. I liked tinkering with hardware and playing with OSes, but growing up in the 2000's, the technology landscape had already "stagnated" into PC dominance. I suppose there's only so much messing with Linux and other FOSS operating systems you can

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 8:56 AM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Thank you, Josh. How did your passion start with classical computers? > Maybe this helps in understanding the generation? > > Regards, > Tarek Hoteit > I was 26 when I joined the list in 1997. I was a

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
What I find a little sad is that the accounting machine world has been almost entirely ignored. The punched card batch processing systems such as IBM's 402/403/407 machines and peripherals are documented and even still in existence here and there, but the manual entry machines that could once be

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread mark audacity romberg via cctalk
How much did you know about tub files or Telex exchanges at their age? Same deal. You know about it because you were there, and you’re confusing knowledge of a specific era with knowledge of the era immediately prior to one’s own. Will people who weren’t alive for the computers of the 80s

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Sellam Abraham via cctalk
I am seeing this hobby growing beyond my own expectations, and a lot of younger people are coming into it. Many people in their teens and twenties are newly discovering the 8-bit computers with which I grew up. I had no concept of computer history until I fell into the hobby, and was fascinated

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
Thank you, Josh. How did your passion start with classical computers? Maybe this helps in understanding the generation? Regards, Tarek Hoteit > On May 19, 2024, at 08:39, Joshua Rice via cctalk > wrote: > > Younger folk are indeed more ignorant of where technology came from, but i >

[cctalk] Re: Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Joshua Rice via cctalk
Younger folk are indeed more ignorant of where technology came from, but i wouldn't say all of them are. I'm 32 years young and, well, i'm posting this email on the mailing list, so that probably says enough. Sure, the pool of those interested in old computer tech might be smaller nowadays

[cctalk] Thirties techies and computing history

2024-05-19 Thread Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
A friend of a friend had a birthday gathering. Everyone there was in their thirties, except for myself, my wife, and our friend. Anyway, I met a Google engineer, a Microsoft data scientist, an Amazon AWS recruiter (I think she was a recruiter), and a few others in tech who are friends with the

[cctalk] Re: NTSC TV demodulator

2024-05-19 Thread Doug McIntyre via cctalk
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 06:59:50AM -0500, Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: > I have a couple of 70s/80s "home" computers (e.g. Radio Shack Color Computer) > that are intended to connect to a TV set. They don't have easily available > composite video, even internally, only modulated RF output.

[cctalk] NTSC TV demodulator

2024-05-19 Thread Cory Heisterkamp via cctalk
My personal experience with DTV boxes (and I do have a small assortment I use routinely), is that the analog pass-through only functions with the box off (RF in->RF out), so no chance of A/V extraction in that case. The majority of newer boxes have eliminated the pass-through option entirely.

[cctalk] Re: NTSC TV demodulator

2024-05-19 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On 05/19/2024 8:50 AM CDT Henry Bent via cctalk wrote: > > > On Sun, May 19, 2024, 08:08 Will Cooke via cctalk > wrote: > > > I have a couple of 70s/80s "home" computers (e.g. Radio Shack Color > > Computer) that are intended to connect to a TV set. They don't have easily > > available

[cctalk] Re: NTSC TV demodulator

2024-05-19 Thread Henry Bent via cctalk
On Sun, May 19, 2024, 08:08 Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: > I have a couple of 70s/80s "home" computers (e.g. Radio Shack Color > Computer) that are intended to connect to a TV set. They don't have easily > available composite video, even internally, only modulated RF output. > Currently I have

[cctalk] Re: NTSC TV demodulator

2024-05-19 Thread CAREY SCHUG via cctalk
I presume the "digitial tv converter boxes" will pass through an analog signal, and suspect at least some of them provide a composite output. --Carey > On 05/19/2024 6:59 AM CDT Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: > > > I have a couple of 70s/80s "home" computers (e.g. Radio Shack Color Computer)

[cctalk] NTSC TV demodulator

2024-05-19 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
I have a couple of 70s/80s "home" computers (e.g. Radio Shack Color Computer) that are intended to connect to a TV set. They don't have easily available composite video, even internally, only modulated RF output. Currently I have an old CRT TV that I use with them, but for various reasons that