On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 1:08 PM Will Cooke via cctalk
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> Does anyone know of a small TV tuner that tunes old analog TV channels (US
> NTSC) and outputs composite or VGA or HDMI signals? I've looked around a bit
> but haven't found anything. It's relatively easy to build one, but I would
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 4:56 PM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
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> Thank you, Josh. How did your passion start with classical computers? Maybe
> this helps in understanding the generation?
I know how I got started, but not really why. Although I can explain
how it progressed.
It was May 1986, I
At one time I had a few Bt848 based PCI TV tuner cards for a PC - Hauppage
was a big player but there were others. Some were composite video in, some
also had a TV tuner section.
I tried one as a video converter for PAL composite out from some home micro
- possibly a Jupiter Ace. It wasn't that g
I've also had TVs with modular RF inputs. One was a huge plasma wall TV and
the other a tiny cheap caravan TV but both had locations for an RF input
card which I assumed could be replaced by cards to suit local national TV
standards. These have no visible controls and, like the PC TV cards,
probabl
Den 2024-05-20 kl. 10:56 skrev Tony Duell via cctalk:
On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 4:56 PM Tarek Hoteit via cctalk
wrote:
Thank you, Josh. How did your passion start with classical computers? Maybe
this helps in understanding the generation?
I know how I got started, but not really why. Although
> On May 20, 2024, at 6:08 AM, Nico de Jong via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
> I used to work on the P6000 series, and they had a very interesting
> architecture. For those who want to know a bit more about Philips' history, I
> can recommend an e-book written by one of the guys in Sweden, where
Den 2024-05-20 kl. 15:26 skrev Paul Koning via cctalk:
On May 20, 2024, at 6:08 AM, Nico de Jong via cctalk
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...
I used to work on the P6000 series, and they had a very interesting
architecture. For those who want to know a bit more about Philips' history, I
can recommend an e-book
> On May 20, 2024, at 9:33 AM, Nico de Jong via cctalk
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> Den 2024-05-20 kl. 15:26 skrev Paul Koning via cctalk:
>>
>> ...
>> I just flipped through it briefly, and spotted what was the Electrologica
>> headquarters (page 143). And a few pages later there is a bit of history
On Sunday, May 19th, 2024 at 13:31, ben via cctalk
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> My mind is fine, it the eyes that are going.
> Screens are getting bigger and text is getting smaller.
> I must be dreaming that.
HiDPI flatpanel displays definitely don't help with this. :/
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This may have been covered before, VERY early in this tread.
I think I tried a game on a flatscreen, and had issues. I don't know if it
applies to the radio shack Color Computer, the interest of the original poster.
many games and entry pcs with old style tv analog format, don't interlace, and
I think you have that backwards.
TVs use interlace. Older PC displays may do so, or not; typically the 480 line
format was not interlaced but there might be high resolution modes that were.
The reason was to deal with bandwidth limitations.
Flat panel displays normally support a pile of input
IIRC, didn’t most older pc monitors have a setup mode where one of the options
was interlace or non-interlace.
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> On May 20, 2024, at 09:35, Paul Koning via cctalk
> wrote:
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> I think you have that backwards.
>
> TVs use interlace. Older PC displays may do so, or not;
Wayne, you must be one of those thirty-something techies from another thread.
for those of us in our 60s and 70s,
setup mode? huh? old TVs and monitors were purely analog. No on-screen
displays and non-volatile memory bytes for setup. adjustments for size and
position were rheostats. i
I see computer history slowly growing. Before you had only one museum
in the United States and now you have multiple ones such as but not
limited to:
American Computer Museum
Computer History Museum
Computer Museum of America
Large Scale Systems Museum
Rhode Island Computer Museum
System Source Co
Sorry I forgot to add Kennet Classic. I failed, my mistake.
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:11 PM Christian Liendo wrote:
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> I see computer history slowly growing. Before you had only one museum
> in the United States and now you have multiple ones such as but not
> limited to:
>
> American Computer M
Lol!I don't care, our little non profit is but a wee dot on the map
compared with the well-funded giants.
On Mon, May 20, 2024, 1:12 PM Christian Liendo via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Sorry I forgot to add Kennet Classic. I failed, my mistake.
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:11 PM
Young , hah. No i’m old 70.
The pc monitors, not Tv, always had a setup menu. Even the Vt100 series let you
choose interlace if you needed.
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> On May 20, 2024, at 10:06, CAREY SCHUG wrote:
>
> Wayne, you must be one of those thirty-something techies from another thread.
>
On 5/20/24 10:25, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
>>> American Computer Museum
>>> Computer History Museum
>>> Computer Museum of America
>>> Large Scale Systems Museum
>>> Rhode Island Computer Museum
>>> System Source Computer Museum
Of course, there's the Living Computer Museum--oh, wait
-C
Kennet Classic is still important in getting history out to the public.
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:25 PM Bill Degnan via cctalk
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> Lol!I don't care, our little non profit is but a wee dot on the map
> compared with the well-funded giants.
>
> On Mon, May 20, 2024, 1:12 PM Christian Lie
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 11:13:38AM -0500, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote:
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> many games and entry pcs with old style tv analog format, don't interlace,
> and tube TVs nearly all (except maybe a few late model high end ones?) are
> fine with that, but I seem to recall that most or all digital/fla
> On May 20, 2024, at 1:37 PM, Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
>
> Young , hah. No i’m old 70.
> The pc monitors, not Tv, always had a setup menu. Even the Vt100 series let
> you choose interlace if you needed.
VT100? I don't think so. And yes, it has a setup menu, but that's setup of
the term
In the vt100, setup menu “B” had an interlace on or off setting.
I just looked it up.
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> On May 20, 2024, at 10:51, Paul Koning via cctalk
> wrote:
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>> On May 20, 2024, at 1:37 PM, Wayne S via cctalk
>> wrote:
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>> Young , hah. No i’m old 70.
>> The pc monitors,
The setup on the earlier monitors was sometimes call “ODB” , don‘t know why.
Was equivalent to setup.
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> On May 20, 2024, at 11:02, Wayne S wrote:
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> In the vt100, setup menu “B” had an interlace on or off setting.
> I just looked it up.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>
> On 05/20/2024 1:02 PM CDT Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
>
>
> In the vt100, setup menu “B” had an interlace on or off setting.
> I just looked it up.
>
>
That is almost certainly setting what type of signal is generated. Like a TV
of the same era, the monitor (display) portion doesn't care;
On 2024-05-20 12:16 p.m., Will Cooke via cctalk wrote:
On 05/20/2024 1:02 PM CDT Wayne S via cctalk wrote:
In the vt100, setup menu “B” had an interlace on or off setting.
I just looked it up.
That is almost certainly setting what type of signal is generated. Like a TV
of the same era,
Is it perhaps OBD--On-Board Diagnostics?
Sellam
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 11:06 AM Wayne S via cctalk
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> The setup on the earlier monitors was sometimes call “ODB” , don‘t know
> why. Was equivalent to setup.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 20, 2024, at 11:02, Wayne S wrote:
> >
> >
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 12:06:13PM -0500, CAREY SCHUG via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> so, just curious. how do digital TVs (and monitors) work? I presume the
> dots are a rectangle, not sloping down to the right, no half a line at the
> top and bottom. Do they just assume the brain can't tell that (for t
> On 05/20/2024 12:06 PM CDT CAREY SCHUG via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>
> so, just curious. how do digital TVs (and monitors) work? I presume the dots
> are a rectangle, not sloping down to the right, no half a line at the top and
> bottom. Do they just assume the brain can't tell that (for the co
I remember the VT100 interlace setting. Yes, it changed the signal
generated. I don't know if it also changed the characteristics of the
monitor but I would think not.
It gave slightly higher resolution (the expectation would be double but the
tube didn't have focus that good) at the cost of a hor
> On May 20, 2024, at 3:40 PM, Adrian Godwin via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> I remember the VT100 interlace setting. Yes, it changed the signal
> generated. I don't know if it also changed the characteristics of the
> monitor but I would think not.
The Pro also has such a thing in its video card. I
Virtual museums as well, e.g.:
http://www.nostalgiccomputing.org
On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 1:28 PM Christian Liendo via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> I see computer history slowly growing. Before you had only one museum
> in the United States and now you have multiple ones such as
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