Maybe only semi-OT. I'm working on a couple of classiccmp-ish projects
(6303, 6309 and 68030) and I find the trusty old Tek 465 o-scope is no
longer compensating for my lack of design skill (or I'm getting better at
hiding bugs in my designs, depending how you look at it). I'm looking for
a recom
From: tony duell
>> - No weird technologies in the design (all TTL/CMOS logic)
>
>That is going to be a problem. AFAIK no 'serious' logic analyser was all
>TTL or (high speed) CMOS. If you are looking for one that is mostly/all
>standard logic, I think you have to consider ECL here.
I meant I'm n
Thanks for the input everyone. In summary, I got recommendations for:
- HP 16500C (lesser a 16500B, but not a 16500A) (mainframe)
- HP 16700/16900/17500 (mainframe, bigger-faster-stronger, still pretty
expensive, can use 16500 cards)
- HP 166x or 167x (portable, modern, look for hard drive)
- HP
From: Sean Caron
>
>I dunno, guys, that might be a little paranoid ... a lot of this
>stuff is big and heavy ... I just can't imagine a thief coming
>in and carting away PDP-11s, VAX-11s, RP/RL/TU drives,
>IBM mainframes, whole racks and the like
>
Nope. My wife used to work in commercial real e
From: Ethan Dicks
>I just picked up a couple of AT&T terminals, a 730+ and a 5620 "Blit"
>terminal.
Some people have *all* the luck.
>I read on one of the several FAQs that I can use an AT&T 4410 terminal
>keyboard with the 730+.
It's been a long time, but I'm pretty sure the keyboard is the sa
During my mid- to late-80s tenure at Georgia Tech, we had 2 x Cyber
180/855, 2 x Cyber 180/830 and 1 x Cyber 180/990. I'll have to ask around
for someone with better memory than me as to how many, but we had quite an
ocean of disks.
KJ
Supermicros (and to a similar degree Tyan) are mostly in the "server class"
of motherboards. That apparently means they put a *lot* of self-test code
in there somewhere. I've had literally thousands of Supermicro machines of
a dozen different types at various times, and they all took an inordinate
I've got a half dozen different source trees for mc680x0 Unixen, but
nothing for an mc68010 CPU + mc68451 MMU. I know Unisoft did some. I
don't know if the Motorola ports (like for the VME/10) were Unisoft or
done internally.
Did any '010+'451 source trees survive to escape into the wild?
KJ
From: Al Kossow
>
> the will probably be 68000
>
> unisoft kernels i've used weren't 010 with the 451
>
Dumb question...did the '451 have a mechanism to work around the
instruction restart issue in the 68000? Or was there some other way
that was handled?
> i'll have to dig around for what bits
From: "Mike Stein"
>
>Did Unisoft distribution tapes normally include sources?
>
Good question. I don't recall that they did, but it's been a
frighteningly lot of years since I've culled through a Unisoft distro
tape.
KJ
From: Phil Budne
>
>A quick google search found:
>
No source trees. But...thanks?
KJ
From: "Ian S. King"
> Sorry for the delay in responding, Jon - I'm launching a spaceship this
> week. :-)
May I once in my life be able to say this and not be engaged in metaphor. :-)
pssst...If Blue Origin is looking for a CSO/CISO, I'm in.
KJ
I thought this sort of thing was what the various target-mode SCSI
frameworks were designed for? I seem to remember at least one of them
had emulated tape drives backed by files.
KJ
I've heard Modula-3 (from DEC SRC and Olivetti Research Center) called
"the Ada regular programmers would adopt". They never did, of course,
because Olivetti decided research wasn't that important and DEC got
bought and a lot of other reasons that are documented elsewhere. Not
to get into a langu
Noticed this on Nekochan:
http://forums.nekochan.net/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=16731198
No affiliation
-
Hi,
I have an IBM 5360 with all of the manuals, cables, etc. The monitor
is missing. There are boxes and boxes of manuals, modems, cables, etc.
This is free for someone who wants to pickup in
From: Rico Pajarola
> Does no one have NCDWare 3.2.1 or earlier?
Nostalgia...I really liked the NCD 19 I used many moons ago.
Reasonably snappy at the time, nice mono screen, quiet. Funny enough
I recently resurrected an NCD Explora 701 (much later MIPS-based
xterminal). It's wildly faster tha
> Is the 701 based on the RacerX from LSI?
Good question...nice shout-out for an obscure MIPS variant. The
Explora 700 is, however, not a RacerX, but an R4700. With up to 256MB
of RAM. Which is nice.
KJ
I vaguely recall a T-1 network controller with a 8x300 series
controller in an X.25 node about 30 years ago, but I don't have any
supporting doco. I think it's pretty clear that uses other than disk
controllers were very rare.
KJ
From: Jon Elson
> It appears to be an extended-length Multibus II board
No. Multibus II used DIN connectors.
KJ
From: "Rick Bensene"
>
> - A Tektronix 4132 Unix workstation using a National 32016 CPU and a
> 4.2bsd port called UTek
Those seem quite rare now, especially if it works. You should
preserve an image of UTek if possible. Any chance you have the
install media?
KJ
From: allison
>
>The 32016 was not clocked very fast nor did it have any pipelines to
>speak of.
True. And lots of interesting bugs; some show-stoppers in early steppings.
>If the 32016 had a second generation, some tweaks and faster process it
>might have had hope but like 68k and Z8000 it was
From: Al Kossow
>
> That reminds me I need to dig out the Genix sources I have.
>
I'd really like to see that, if it ever came to light.
KJ
From: william degnan
> that's fine, but the reasoning was totally political and narrow minded.
I'd be fascinated at a justification for this opinion that squared
with "John C. Calhoun’s legacy as a white supremacist and a national
leader who passionately promoted slavery as a ‘positive good’".
I'm going to be working on my 11/730s power supply, so I'm in the
market for an ESR meter. I've seen some (older) recommendations for
the AnaTek 'Blue' and various 'Dick Smith' derivatives. However, eBay
is flooded with knockoff Mega328 based ESR/Transistor/SCR/etc. testers
all looking like:
htt
From: Chuck Guzis
>Early internet systems--I'm not sure where to draw the line between
>Usenet, ARPANet and Internet exactly often employed nothing more than
>POTS networking, using nothing more than UUCP or similar methods.
We were quite certain our Datakit X.25 network was on the Internet
(late
Would anyone have a working EISA motherboard or smallish EISA machine
they'd part with for a reasonable price? I find myself in need of one
to resurrect some elderly kit I'd like to play with. Contact
off-list.
KJ
From: Mike Ross
> I have a 3172 controller; physically rough and needs restoration but *should*
> work if
> I can fake the remote connection and modem - bisync etc. B
From: Paul Berger
> you need a modem eliminator mostly to provide the clocks for the sync data
> line,
> other than that is i
From: Mouse
>> [...] industrial espionage [...]
>> One wonders how much goes undetected.
>> Most of those getting caught are in upper management. Us lowly
>> grunts don't seem to get involved as often or maybe there are those
>> among us that are just that much better at covering our tracks.
>
>
Wow...that fired some old brain cells. I saved one of these around
86-87 and had it hooked to a VAX/BSD4 system for a while. All I
really remember about it was that it was pretty well made but after
wasting too much time mucking about I could never finesse a termcap
entry for it that didn't have
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote:
>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 1:24 AM, Henk Gooijen
>> wrote:
>>
>> Spend the extra few dollars (or what your currency is) and pack it in a
>> very strong box. I've actually had EPROMs show up cracked in half
>
>Seconded. The machines the USPS uses for aut
On 2016-02-22 11:58 AM, Mouse wrote:
> Unix was done on the PDP-11 (something else
> before that, I think, but I forget what, and I think it was with the
> move to the -11 that it became portable enough to be ported instead of
> rewritten).
PDP-7, though it was more of a "reimplementation" than a
From: "Maciej W. Rozycki"
> I've only ever heard of and saw a single kind of monochrome graphics
> hardware for x86 PCs and that was the Hercules Graphics Card (HGC) and its
> clones, and these were already gone by early to mid 1990s.
The Wyse 700 and Bell Tech Blit were both ISA bus mono video c
> My call for a VAX-11/750 a month or so ago actually bore some fruit
> (locally, even!) and as of a couple of weeks ago, I now have a very
> nicely configured 11/750 system taking up most of the basement.
Some guys have all the luck. Now if anyone in the Southeast has a 750
they're no longer att
Is there an equivalent to the DSV11 for Unibus? Or other quick Unibus
sync serial that my Google-fu isn't good enough to find? The DMC11
looks like it can do 56Kbps over V.35, which is better than the
19.2kbps on the DMF32, but it would be useful to be able to push to
256Kbps (or faster). I'm pa
From: Paul Koning
>
> HDLC is ok so far as it goes, but DDCMP is superior in every respect. The
> only reason
> to use HDLC is that you need to talk something that can't be made to speak
> DDCMP.
>
Like a Cisco router without the DECnet feature set? Or pretty much
anything that doesn't speak
From: Ethan Dicks
>
> DUP-11? Will that do what you need?
>
Not sure, Ethan. I'm been looking at the doco and it's not clear yet
if it's suitable for what I'm trying to do.
Thanks for the pointer.
KJ
From: Brent Hilpert
> I don't think I've ever seen a wirewrapped S100 backplane, they were
> pretty much all PCB.
For what it's worth, I've seen many WW S-100 backplanes, especially
from the days when it was common to assemble your own systems from
parts/kits, and before S-100 was a "standard".
I'd really like the AT&T 4425 terminal, which doesn't seem to have
been claimed. I spent a couple of years with one on my desk. Any
chance they'd ship?
My wife and I have an agreement that if I bring home any more VME kit
I have to get rid of an equivalent tonnage of other things. So unless
tha
I'd be more than happy to look for what people want, but an address,
start time and required payment type would help.
From: tony duell
> On Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 5:56 PM, Steven M Jones wrote:
>>
>> Before anyone gets too excited about the blistering speed of the 60
>> MHz TMS34010, ... However, since it has a
>> graphics-optimized instruction set, it was still able to do some
>> things noticeably faster than the
From: Zane Healy
>
> I tend to think that X11 over serial would be nothing short of nightmarish.
>
I ran X over an ISDN 64K link with 19.2Kbps backup for years in the
late 80s/early 90s, and it was pleasantly usable enough to be my daily
remote work access. Admittedly, Framemaker was a bit of a
From: John Wilson
> And what was that Z8000-based BASIC coprocessor (or at least,
> I think that was the only software for it) on a long ISA card? He did
> some crazy stuff!
Indeed. Z8001/Trump Card was in the May & June 1984 issues of Byte.
There was a BASIC and a C compiler. I heard that it
Noticed this today...seems like it would have above average fetish
value for the TRS-80 crowd.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Radio-Shack-TRS-80-X-Pad-GT-116-Graphic-Tablet-IN-BOX-UNTESTED-/332274978760?hash=item4d5d21cfc8:g:BrwAAOSwXXxZSxdD
Disclaimer: I have purchased a couple of things from this sell
On 9/12/17, 2:04 AM, "Laurens Vets" wrote:
>There's something seriously wrong with your site
>http://www.vaxbarn.com/index.php/other-bits/603-convex-c220 unless the
>title of your work is indeed "Feel Like Having Sex Tonight | Best Legal
>Viagra Uk" :)
I think you need to check your end.
I've always thought STD-Bus missed a real opportunity here. Small
enough to be cost effective (relative to the size of, say, S-100
(bonus, no stupid power supply issues)), sane, flexible enough bus
structure that I believe there are at least CPU cards using:
- 4004/4040 (pre-standard?)
- 8080/808
> Anyone know of a 40-pin UART with a FIFO? :)
16c550s are cheap as dirt. And you can stick a 16c850 or whatever the
latest incarnation is to a PLCC to DIP adapter.
> I've lately been doing the data transfer stuff using STM32F407
> development boards.
Chuck really has the right answer here. UAR
From: Murray McCullough
>
>This may be off-topic but these latest uprocessor exploits has raised
>a question: Are the 'old/classic' uprocessors using x86 technology in
>the same boat?
>
The exploit effects the speculative execution facility, so no it's not
"all P6 forward": nothing 32-bit or PAE,
From: Curious Marc
>
> On Windows 7, using regedit, set
>
> ?HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel?
> to ?1?
>You might need to create the new entry under \lsa as a REG_DWORD, set
> to 1
>
As your friendly neighbourhood infosec type, please
>> I am not at liberty to post the document.
>
>This?
...
>Also:
...
>If so, it might be this:
...
There's a difference between "I am not at liberty..." and "what anyone
can google...".
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 6:40 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2018, Ken Seefried via cctalk wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am not at liberty to post the document.
>>>
>>> This?
>>
>> ...
>>>
>>> Also:
>>
>> ...
Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote:
> Does anyone have any recommendations for a '90s era PC that has PCI and
> ISA slots? Ideally I'd like to have EISA slots too. ? At least I
> think that's what I want.
EISA is a nice-to-have, especially if you want to run multiple
interfaces (much better irq hand
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:32 PM Alexander Huemer via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 11:05:41PM +0800, Tom Hunter via cctalk wrote:
> > FSF does not enforce anything.
>
> https://gpl-violations.org/
> They do though.
>
> -Alex
>
Go to 'News' on that site and the
cares about open source who doesn't
know who the EFF is?). But someone not previously mentioned is doing
something, so...look! squirrel!?
No wonder GPL violators operate with impunity.
On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 3:13 AM Alexander Huemer via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
whose legacy everyone is relying.
>
> Sellam
>
> * remaining nameless
>
> On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 3:59 PM Ken Seefried via cctalk <
> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
>
> > FSF hasn't done anything in at least a decade, but someone from there "is
> >
I'm interested in recreating MMI application note AN-114 which describes
adding an sn74s516 mult/div/acc chip to a 68000. Unfortunately, I haven't
been able to find an sn74s516 in the couple of years I've been looking.
Does anyone have some they'd be willing to part with?
KJ
> BOOTP load of a DOS from a Netware or 3Com server.
Could that be RPL? I have a WD800x ethernet card with netboot PROM sold
with a "Netware ready" or some such workstation that it took me a bit to
figure out was looking for an RPL boot server, not BOOTP/TFTP.
On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 9:11 PM Chr
Didn't see anyone mention it, but one should recall that the whole memory
space on the 8088/8086 was 1M, so a 'limit' (whatever kind) of 640K wasn't
the dumbest computer design decision ever made. In addition to that, Intel
was telling people to get ready to jump to iAXP432 because 8086/80286 was
Not sure how any of that relates to my post.
On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 12:47 AM ben via cctalk
wrote:
> On 2023-06-22 10:04 p.m., Ken Seefried via cctalk wrote:
> > Didn't see anyone mention it, but one should recall that the whole memory
> > space on the 8088/8086 was 1M, so
alk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2023, Ken Seefried wrote:
> > Didn't see anyone mention it, but one should recall that the whole memory
> > space on the 8088/8086 was 1M, so a 'limit' (whatever kind) of 640K
> wasn't
>
> Wel
AC layer
> if I recall, and worked. However it had an issue with routers and I
> think BOOTP was easier to use with a "helper" on the switch or router to
> handle it.
>
> Old stuff. But yes pull that ROM chip or Arcnet card and it should boot
> to floppy or HD.
>
>
I don't have any idea what this is but it appears to have Z-8000
CPU+MMU chips. Perhaps an Onyx or S8000 CPU card? I know some folks
here are in to that sort of thing.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Vintage-DSC-MP-4-EPC-Rev-D-K-Expansion-Board-Card-PCB-for-Mini-Computer/152475939021
KJ
> Heck, I'd be fascinated to talk to anyone who purchased
> the machines during their lifespan (1997-2001) and could tell me what you
> used them for.
Not the e10k, but Cingular Wireless used clustered e15k's as Oracle
database engines. Dozens of them. Very impressive performance.
KJ
Are Allen-Bradley Multibus-1 form factor cards actually Multibus
compliant or something proprietary?
KJ
> And if you break one you have to call HAZMAT. You did realize that,
> didn't you? They contain mercury and any breakage requires professional
> remediation by law!!
Please quit spreading this urban legend. Some care in handling is
recommended, but no professional help is required, by law! or
The Hitachi SH4 has a set of pipelineable vector instructions that
work on 4x4 and 4x1 length vectors (implemented as 2 sets of 16 FP
registers). Nothing compared to MMX/SSE/AVX, but relatively complex.
I missed the recent M8198+CIS chip auction on eBay, and subsequently
found myself with a new (for me) 11/23+. Does anyone have a CIS chip
they're interested in parting with? Contact me directly.
KJ
From: Al Kossow
>
> a 7" android tablet based on the wondermedia wm8650 SOC
> ...
> these things are so old they've disappeared from the market
>
Well...not 7", but there is this:
https://blackberrymobile.com/product/blackberry-key2/
KJ
, but at least in the older BBs, my French and German
colleagues didn't seem to have trouble sending messages with them.
KJ
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:43 AM Liam Proven wrote:
>
> On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 17:05, Ken Seefried via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > Wel
>the i860 found at least a little niche on graphics boards, so somehow
>not a complete failure ;-)
I'd be mildly surprised if Intel ever made enough from selling i860s
as GPUs to cover the cost of developing and marketing them. At the
time, Intel was pushing them as their RISC processor, and put
I believe SunOS 2.4 is old enough all you need to do is delete the
password hash from /etc/passwd to log in without a password.
KJ
FWIW, I use a password manager (Keepass/Keepass2, tho there are other
good ones). It's another step or two in my workflow, but let's me
have a unique, very strong password for everything I log into.
Greatly reduces the impact of password dump attacks.
My google-fu is failing me; forgive me.
Is the Tandy DWP-220 daisy-wheel printer a rebrand/OEM of someone
else? In particular, can I find ribbons and font wheels under another
manufacturer?
KJ
re: Cisco and IBM protocols
If you're really interested, all of this is exhaustively documented
under the umbrella of Cisco's "IBM Feature Set". There's a *lot* here
under the hood, but the last time I looked (admittedly, a while) a
number of folks had web sites that documented the correct incant
On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 2:23 PM Paul Koning wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 2019, at 2:13 PM, Ken Seefried via cctalk
> > wrote:
> >
> > ...
> > You can bridge between TR (and FDDI) and ethernet on a Cisco,
> > generally for non-routable protocols (e.
I have some 8-bit ISA 53c90a based SCSI controllers labeled "SCSI HB A8".
Mine are made by "Advanced Information Concepts", but apparently they were
also made by "Control Concepts". Unfortunately, mine don't have the BIOS
chips installed. I have a picture of the card with a chip installed
labeled
> You can list them for whatever you want, and if you are lucky someone
might pay it.
I always assumed that the eBay listings that sold for obviously ridiculous
amounts are money laundering schemes.
On Sat, Mar 23, 2024 at 1:15 PM David Wade via cctalk
wrote:
>
> > -Original Message-
>
On Wed, May 1, 2024 at 7:51 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
> What would our world be like if the first home computers were to have had
> APL, instead of BASIC?
>
>
>
The Ampere WS-1?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampere_WS-1
Definitely more stylish.
KJ
On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 8:59 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk
wrote:
> Who remembers SYMPL or CYBIL?
>
>
Please...I'm trying very hard not to remember them (or NOS...worse, NOS/VE).
KJ
On Mon, May 13, 2024 at 10:18 PM Tommy Chang via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> Yes, Epic is the most popular electronic medical records vendor and their
> backend is MUMPS (originally MIIS).
>
My wife is in medical practice management. That explains a lot.
KJ
via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 5/15/24 18:47, Ken Seefried via cctalk wrote:
>
> > Please...I'm trying very hard not to remember them (or NOS...worse,
> NOS/VE).
>
> I left CDC at around the time that SCOPE 3.4 was being renamed NOS BE
> and KRO
I have one or two as well. I asked around about this a couple of years ago
and didn't turn anything interesting up. A couple of former Heurikon folks
said they'd look but nothing came of it. Ping me if you turn anything up.
KJ
On Thu, Jun 6, 2024 at 10:04 PM Chris Hanson via cctalk <
cctalk@cl
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