Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-12-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 1 Dec 2018 at 02:00, Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > Be assured there were enough IBM PC clones running DOS around from 1989 > onwards for this stuff to matter, OK, fair enough. Thanks for the info! > and hardly anyone switched to MS Windows > before version 95 (running Windows 3.0 with the

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-12-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 4 Dec 2018 at 15:02, Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk wrote: > I don't know if the unreal mode has been retained in the x86 architecture > to this day; as I noted above it was not officially supported. But then > some originally undocumented x86 features, such as the second byte of AAD > an

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 20:47, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > I don't think that HTML can reproduce fixed page layout like PostScript > and PDF can. It can make a close approximation. But I don't think HTML > can get there. Nor do I think it should. There are a wider panoply of options to c

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 at 08:05, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > He also created the Canon Cat. > > His idea of a user interface included that the program should KNOW > (assume) what the user wanted to do. One of my heroes. I've never used a Cat or his other software UIs, but the demos I've seen a

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 15:21, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: > Defects in the ASCII code table. This was a great improvement at the time, > but fails to implement several utterly essential concepts. The lack of these > concepts in the character coding scheme underlying virtually all information

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 23:39, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 03:44, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > If it's in Roman, Cyrillic, or Greek, they're alphabets, so it's a letter. > > > Correct, Latin, Greek, and Cyrillic are al

Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 12:17, ED SHARPE via cctalk wrote: > > seems only the very old mail programs do not adapt to all character sets? Maybe so, Ed, but it's basic good manners to both (a) not make your emails unnecessarily difficult for others to read, and (b) respect the etiquette of the

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 01:00, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > If they are not seen as separate letters, then do their meaning's > change? Or is the different accent more for pronunciation? No, mainly, it changes alphabetical order and it makes asking questions tricky. I see š as an s-with-a-

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 25 Nov 2018 at 23:42, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I bet you see all sorts of things that I'm ignorant of. It's been enlightening! Some I was ready for. E.g. In French or Spanish, both of which I can speak to some extent, letters like á or ó are not seen as separate letters: Frenc

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 at 18:54, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: > > Turn off trashing mails with Unicode in Subject and see if this solves > a problem? *Loud laughter in the office* Well _played_, sir! -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Ha

Re: What is this?

2018-11-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 at 01:49, Donald via cctalk wrote: > > Don't think it is IBM. Apparently high temp ICs due to the heat sink > housing. No idea what it is. > > http://www.myimagecollection/part No idea, because that's not a valid URL -- it has no TLD -- and you can't send attachments to the l

Re: Text encoding Babel. Was Re: George Keremedjiev

2018-11-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 23 Nov 2018 at 01:55, Guy Dunphy via cctalk wrote: > Also I have it configured to > dust-bin any incomimg mail containing UTF-8 chars in the Subject header. > Avoids a lot of time-wasting. That's English-language cultural snobbery. I'm a native Anglophone but I live in a non-English spe

Re: [EXTERNAL] VCF PNW 2019: Exhibitors needed!

2018-11-21 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 02:57, Michael Brutman via cctalk wrote: > > Emulators do great things, but they can't replace the visceral > experience of touching real old working hardware. Take the example > the sound of a modem making a 1200 bps connection, or the grinding > noise of a floppy drive ze

Re: Font for DEC indicator panels

2018-11-13 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 at 17:12, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > Well, how DID they make panels? Letraset? :-) -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus: lpro...@gmail.com Twitter/Facebook/Flickr: lproven - Skype/LinkedIn: liamproven

Re: Did anyone see Vintage Tech Hunters on Discovery Canada yet?

2018-11-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 at 18:18, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > In my experience, games written for CGA and 80286 do not do well on modern > equipment. This is why DOSBox exists. https://www.dosbox.com/ It's a DOS PC emulator for modern PCs, mainly for playing old games. -- Liam Proven -

Re: modern stuff

2018-10-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 26 Oct 2018 at 14:56, emanuel stiebler via cctalk wrote: > the i860 found at least a little niche on graphics boards, so somehow > not a complete failure ;-) And of course it was the N-Ten CPU on the Microsoft Dazzle motherboard. The main product developed on that mobo was codenamed afte

Re: SUN keyboard for grabs

2018-10-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 18:59, Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote: > > I am tossing a pile of old PC keyboards but found one SUN type C keyboard. > It's missing a few keys :-( but might interest anyone needing spare parts. Get 'em on eBay. Don't underestimate the zeal of keyboard collectors. -- Lia

Re: Object-oriented OS [was: Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen]

2018-10-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 27 Oct 2018 at 05:33, Tomasz Rola wrote: I found this post incoherent and very hard to follow. I will therefore limit myself to commenting to the responses direct to me. OK, apart from: > Ok guys, just to make things clearer, here are two pages from wiki: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wi

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 17:35, Rick Bensene wrote: > > Earlier, I wrote: > >> The whole desktop metaphor UI existed long before Windows 95 in non-Unix > >> implementations by Xerox PARC (Palo Alto Research >>Center) with the > >> pioneering Xerox Alto, introduced in 1973, which implemented Alan

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018 at 00:31, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote: > It's the sort of stuff marked > with "COMPANY PROPRIETARY" watermarks that, if you try to scan or run it > through a photocopier, produces black output due to opto-molecular chemical > overlays. Oh dear. Let me guess -- do you also wor

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 20:12, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote: > > Wrong. Apple has been using self-customized, optimized-for their-hardware > supersets of the VNC protocol (which is X based) Not true. VNC isn't X-based. And Apple supports it, sure, but as an accessory thing. VNC also works fine on

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 20:09, John Ames wrote: > There's also the Afterstep/Window Maker crowd, open-source > reimplementations of the NEXTSTEP desktop environment, which predates > even Windows 3.x. That sort of echoes my point, really, I think. As I said, it's ludicrous to counter my claim th

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 20:01, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > Excuse me, but I work for Oracle on Solaris (primarily on USB code) and > it is not EOL. Oracle just released Solaris 11.4 and the next release is > being worked on. Oh! Well, I'm very glad to hear it. But the news has not spread -- c

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 19:48, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > "The simplistic style is partly explained by the fact that its editors, > having to meet a publishing deadline, copied the information off the back > of a packet of breakfast cereal, hastily embroidering it with a few foot > notes in o

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 19:05, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 10/23/2018 10:47 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > This may be an unfortunate mismatch of English idioms. > > Fair. > > > "Out there", to me, means "current, available/on sale/in use

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 19:12, ben wrote: > > On 10/23/2018 4:33 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 21:19, ben via cctalk wrote: > > > >> Try and find a printed page size PDF > >> reader, or one a tad smaller. Reading a PDF on a KINDLE DOES NOT WORK. > > > > I suggest you look at th

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 18:59, Paul Berger via cctalk wrote: > > This is my issue with a lot of Linux distros they seem to try to hard to > look and work like mac or like windows while I would rather have them > look and work like the xwindows I knew and loved. One of my biggest > aggravations is

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 17:58, Jon Elson wrote: > ARRGhhh! I HATE Unity! I have switched all my Ubuntu > systems to gnome-classic, which suits me fine. > (You have to hack the theme xml file to make the borders > wide enough to grab and stretch.) > I lasted about 4 hours with Unity. I am a spat

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 17:49, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 10/23/2018 04:41 AM, Liam Proven wrote: > > It's pointless to compare environments from _before_ Win95 as a way of > > saying that Win95 didn't influence them! > > Your statement that I replied to is: > > *Every* Unix desktop

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 13:11, Geoffrey Oltmans wrote: > > I’ll throw in my two cents to say that I’ve used a fair number of GUIs over > the years both commercially available and FOSS, and I’d say that Windows 95’s > UI blew the doors off of anything I’d used up that point in terms of > usabilit

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 23:41, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote: > > This reference to "object-oriented" is way off, conflating GUI "objects" > and true object-oriented software. Yep. Welcome to the wonderful world of marketing. :-( > U ... no. You're apparently completely uninformed about MIT P

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 22:54, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > On 10/22/2018 08:14 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: > > *Every* Unix desktop out there draws on Win95. > > Nope. That's simply not true. > > The following three vast families of window manag

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 22:56, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > It's perfectly possible to use GUIs without any icons. > > It's possible to use GUIs without a mouse. > > The GUI is not responsible for what people do with them / the mouse. Exactly so. Oberon is a good example of a GUI with no ic

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 21:19, ben via cctalk wrote: > Try and find a printed page size PDF > reader, or one a tad smaller. Reading a PDF on a KINDLE DOES NOT WORK. I suggest you look at the Kindle DX. I bought one. I got it 2nd hand, from the USA, via eBay. https://www.amazon.com/Kindle-DX-Wir

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 03:40, Curious Marc via cctalk wrote: > > As they used to say, Windows95 = Mac 1984. Which is pushing it a bit but has > some truth in it... Maybe Mac 1990. Curiously, the Xerox Alto has quite > advanced GUI and object oriented programming (including the smalltalk > windo

Re: Desktop Metaphor

2018-10-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 18:58, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote: > > Liam Proven wrote: > > > >On the one hand, the cosmetics. *Every* Unix desktop out there draws > >on Win95. > > I take exception to the "*Every*" in Liam's statement above. I think you are missing my point so far that you're lookin

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 16:28, Jim Manley via cctalk wrote: > > I'm going to stand by my assertion that the Softcard was a single-board > computer on the technicality that it did have its own RAM - you apparently > forget that registers are a form of RAM - HA! They're memory, they're > addressed

Re: Selling keyboards without the terminal

2018-10-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 12:50, Yvan Janssens via cctalk wrote: > > So, I have built a USB adapter for my 5150’s keyboard. The experience is > actually quite bad, as stated earlier. The main reason why I still use it > is because I took it with me from Belgium - it’s a French keyboard, and > having

Re: Selling keyboards without the terminal

2018-10-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 at 21:01, ben via cctalk wrote: > Is just me, but is keyboad input geting slower and slower on web stuff, > even the old 110 buad tty gave better response running under a PDP/8. https://danluu.com/input-lag/ Summary: no, it's not just you. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https:/

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 19:31, Tomasz Rola via cctalk wrote: > Oooh. My personal recollection about w95 is that there was a lot of > touting before the premiere day, how advanced it was because "object > oriented operating system". The premiere came, the toutings quickly > faded away, never heard

Re: Microsoft-Paul Allen

2018-10-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 12:55, Adam Sampson via cctalk wrote: > > Do you mean sold up to that point? Amstrad went on to sell several > million PCWs with CP/M later in the 1980s. (They say 8 million on > http://www.amstrad.com/products/archive/, but that includes the > much less popular PCW16 which

Re: OTsorta : Old phone system(s) avail

2018-10-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 17:54, Andrew Luke Nesbit via cctalk wrote: > > I have an idea for a project to reduce my dependency on my phone. I'm > trying to move to a model where voice, voicemail, and SMS are all that I > need when I'm on the go. There are plenty of such devices around. Some are tr

Re: DG/UX install media

2018-10-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 13:42, alan--- via cctalk wrote: > > I've tried loop mounting with no success. Is there a software tool > (Linux or Windows) that will burn a non-ISO image to a CD? Most > expect/assume ISO-9660. On Windows (a few years ago, I no longer run it in normal use), my personal

Re: DG/UX install media

2018-10-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 11:33, Torfinn Ingolfsen via cctalk wrote: > > Maybe they are just dumps? In whatever format DG/UX expects > There could be hints on the documentation ISO. > Unfortunately, the files on the documentation ISO is in "WorldView" > format (aka "printerleaf") and a converter (pl

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 10:24, CuriousMarc via cctalk wrote: > > This an outstanding presentation. The bold claim is actually somewhat > justified... I am very glad to hear that. The comparison that sprang to mind, actually, was your wonderful series of Alto restoration videos, which I have been

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 19 Sep 2018 at 05:02, Cory Heisterkamp wrote: > > Liam, thanks for posting this. What a wonderful way to waste an hour. ; ) > > I can also highly recommend the book 'Digital Apollo', which goes into some > detail about the man-machine interface of the AGC and the internal debate at > the

Re: The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 18 Sep 2018 at 19:37, Paul Koning wrote: > > Yes. But it's actually 12 k of ROM if I remember right, and that was > expanded further later on. Well, yes. I was oversimplifying things a little by talking about the base, un-bank-switched space. (I copied-and-pasted a FB "Vintage Computer

The Ultimate Apollo Guidance Computer Talk

2018-09-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Amazingly detailed 1hr talk about the Apollo Guidance Computer. It's stunning how much they got into mid-1960s technology: 1 MHz hand-made processor, 1 k of RAM, 4 k of ROM, and bank-switching, with a fault-tolerant multitasking OS with an interpreted metalanguage. Absolutely stunning. https://med

Re: VT100 emulation

2018-09-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 17 Sep 2018 at 17:05, Ken Seefried via cctalk wrote: > > Well...not 7", but there is this: > https://blackberrymobile.com/product/blackberry-key2/ True. I have not had or used an Android Blackberry with a hardware keyboard, but I did have a Passport, the older QNX-based device. One thin

Re: Portable terminals

2018-09-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 12 Sep 2018 at 11:09, Huw Davies via cctalk wrote: > > I think if I was in need of a portable vt100 terminal I’d use either my > Raspad > (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/35410622/raspad-raspberry-pi-tablet-for-your-creative-proje/posts) > for full out Geek mode or (far more reliab

Re: VT100 emulation

2018-09-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 11 Sep 2018 at 17:34, Ali wrote: > > It also runs Debian Linux and Jolla Sailfish. > > And this might be its greatest saving grace. Being able to run Linux makes it > super useful plus increases the useful life of the device maybe indefinitely > as you are not limited to the whims and d

Re: Portable terminals

2018-09-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 21:02, Ali via cctalk wrote: > p.s. The caveat is of course if you get something like the Gemini. That looks > like a very nice machine but at 599 British pounds I rather get a Sony UX > series and have a real PC or the HP LX200. The key, at least for me, is > finding a

Re: VT100 emulation

2018-09-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 19:35, Ali wrote: > > > > Anything that runs a more up to date version of Android? > > > > Sure. The Gemini. > > > > https://www.planetcom.co.uk/ > > > > I have one. It's a lovely little device and quite well-made. I am not > > sure how robust it will be long-term. > > That

Re: VT100 emulation

2018-09-10 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 at 03:18, Ali via cctalk wrote: > Android 4.2 > > Anything that runs a more up to date version of Android? Sure. The Gemini. https://www.planetcom.co.uk/ I have one. It's a lovely little device and quite well-made. I am not sure how robust it will be long-term. However, it'

Re: Oddball Terminals (Was: Re: VT100's)

2018-09-08 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 at 21:08, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > I just put up some pictures of the vt02, 05, 20, and 71t > under http://bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/terminal Oddly, since others are commenting, this whole site is inaccessible for me in Prague, both yesterday and today. « This site can’t be

Interesting blog post on Zuse

2018-08-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Konrad Zuse, Alan Turing, and the World’s First Computer Startup POSTED ON OCTOBER 18, 2013 · POSTED IN STARTUPS http://www.nathanzeldes.com/blog/2013/10/konrad-zuse-alan-turing-worlds-first-computer-startup/ -- Sent from my smartphone. Pl

Re: ps/2 Keyboard with 3 button trackball

2018-07-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 at 13:55, Carlo Pisani wrote: > > VxWorks, customized by Tektronix. Oh boy. Yeah, I see what you mean. That is going to be tricky, then. Is a separate mouse/trackball out of the question? Few PS/2 keyboards are made any more, so you're looking for a subtype of a subtype of

Re: ps/2 Keyboard with 3 button trackball

2018-07-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 at 13:42, Carlo Pisani wrote: > > with software like Tektronix's TekXpress you can't simulate the middle button Please bottom-post on the list if you can. Gmail does it fine. I'm doing it right now. Hit Ctrl-A, trim, paste below. I don't know TexExpress. What OS does it run u

Re: ps/2 Keyboard with 3 button trackball

2018-07-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sat, 21 Jul 2018 at 23:12, Carlo Pisani via cctalk wrote: > the software I need to use requires the third button to > select items Have you experimented with the option where pressing both buttons simulatenously simulates the middle button? A configurable option in most Windows mouse drivers;

Re: Landfill?

2018-07-20 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 20 Jul 2018 at 00:30, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > I'm not healthy enough (last year I had another TURP surgery *Googles* *Winces _hard_* I'm in for surgery next week myself. They're going to try to stop my left arm from falling off. Snag is... I'm left handed. And I'm in Prague an

Re: GoTEK SFR1M44-U100...

2018-07-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 17:53, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > Yup. I've still got one of the FlashPath units after having taken one > apart and destroyed it in the process. > > There;s a small electromagnet (coil) located where it can be coupled to > the drive head. The rest is pretty straight

Re: GoTEK SFR1M44-U100...

2018-07-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 19:43, Peter Corlett via cctalk wrote: > > That's an extraordinary claim that sets off my bullshit detector. Snopes > offers > this commentary: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/1895-exam/ > > 50-100 years before you were at school would be roughly 1870-1920, which is > rig

Re: GoTEK SFR1M44-U100...

2018-07-18 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 at 01:11, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > > Unfortunately not. A floppy drive doesn't have any way to know what sector > the host wants, so a drive emulator has to simulate the rotation process. On that note... Does anyone know how NV-memory-to-floppy emulators worked? E.g. th

Re: GoTEK SFR1M44-U100...

2018-07-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 14:36, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote: > > Yikes. > > Send them this: > > http://www.chiappa.net/~jnc/tech/sflovers/ *Chuckle* I doubt they'd understand. This quiz was in the basement bar of a youth hostel. I would guesstimate that these kids are all young enough that the

Re: GoTEK SFR1M44-U100...

2018-07-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 03:41, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > On 8", notch is write protect; no notch is write enabled. > on 5.25", notch is write enabled; no notch is write protected. > I think that that justifies calling the 8" a "write protect notch", and > calling the 5.25" a "write enable no

Re: GoTEK SFR1M44-U100...

2018-07-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 at 00:17, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Or maybe it's the need for fingerprint oils on the media! 3.5" keeps > fingers away more than 5.25 or 8". On the Lisa "Twiggy" diskettes, they > made special provision to get more thumb prints. *Chuckle* Even if I never saw them, I

Re: GoTEK SFR1M44-U100...

2018-07-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 17:31, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > > There were a couple of versions of web-browser with OS that fit on a > 1.44M floppy. I know about the famous QNX Demo Disk. It's the only one I knew of, though. http://toastytech.com/guis/qnxdemo.html Although I guess I could, just

Re: Apple and Sun keyboards

2018-07-17 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 at 20:23, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > AEK II are here > https://www.elecshopper.com/input-devices/keyboards/wired-keyboards/desktop- > keyboards/apple-extended-keyboard-1.html If any list members want an Apple Extended 1 in German QWERTZ layout, I have one that is c

Re: GoTEK SFR1M44-U100...

2018-07-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 at 06:40, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > And, in the 3.5" form factor, it was fairly straightforward to tweak the > parameters of the format to get 1.7M on a 1.4M disk. I did that on occasion. So did some OS distributions, just to keep the number of boot diskettes down to ju

Re: GoTEK SFR1M44-U100...

2018-07-16 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Sun, 15 Jul 2018 at 05:55, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > Wow. > > I had no idea that there was a 5¼" disk that held more than 1.2 MB. > > So much history that I'm sure is being lost to time. Me neither -- and I thought I knew a fair bit about floppies. I sometimes misstate things just in

Re: 8 inch floppies, decaying

2018-07-12 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 at 20:05, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > Don't use pumice to clean off the pumas. (they won't like it) > Stick with well whale oil. Also great for rosewood, I hear. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk - Google Mail/Hangouts/Plus:

Re: 360 Technologies selloff

2018-07-11 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 at 18:58, Electronics Plus via cctalk wrote: > > If there are not too many requests, you can send me PN, and I can see who is > ACTUALLY listing them, not just advertising. Well, I'm still looking for an IBM PC-AT Model F keyboard. :-) US layout would be a challenge but not

Re: Preserved LGP-30

2018-07-03 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 at 12:08, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > > And wouldn't it be possible that tape strewn artistically is just that, a > prop? Especially given the pattern on the tape? Who would display the > real thing that way? Exactly! :-) It looked like a dummy to me, artfully arranged.

Preserved LGP-30

2018-07-01 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
The Moravian Galley in Brno has an exhibition on "Computer Art 1968". The only actual computer is a very well-preserved German LGP-30. I took a few photos of it yesterday... and got told off for handling the paper tape, which only has some diagnostics on it: blocks of "lace" alternating with unpunc

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-29 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 at 04:39, Jon Elson wrote: > They are galvanically isolated, good for several thousand Volts. > The transceiver is powered by a tiny transformer, and the > signals are passed through several more. Fascinating. I did not know that. Thanks for the info! -- Liam Proven - Profi

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 at 21:14, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > I realize that, just pointing out that the threat was already well known > by the 1980's. Ah, ISWYM now. Sorry. Yes, in that case, you're absolutely right. -- Liam Proven - Profile: https://about.me/liamproven Email: lpro...@ci

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 at 20:13, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > > The US Electrical Code has not allowed any kind of signal wire in > the same conduit with any kind of power wiring for as far back as > I can remember. Sounds very sensible, but the Isle of Man isn't part of the USA, nor even pa

Re: Thicknet/10base5 Test Segment: The Cable is In!

2018-06-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 at 18:45, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > > In case it may not be obvious to some readers, the reason you should NEVER > ground an Ethernet cable (of any kind) at two points is that the ground > potential at two different points is unlikely to be the same, so that will > cause a

Re: VCF East Photo Thread

2018-06-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 at 04:14, Tony Aiuto via cctalk wrote: > > Mine here. It includes some bits from my other museums at the facility > > https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO6j53IKGboKAmsUmAdDoj4ugeEGd1igUOgfRMtBpIqaibPJX2USBG0crSDeICWsQ?key=aFpMdFNxYlBUZTBjTldJajN6RDlHVmJtblRhUTBn Thanks for t

Re: WRQ Reflection 4+ DOS

2018-06-05 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 5 Jun 2018 at 14:08, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > All these > programs worked the same IMHO most all had DEC terminal emulation DEC terminal emulation wasn't the problem for me and my employers, back at the end of the 1980s and beginning of the 1990s. It was Wyse terminal emulation.

Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390

2018-06-04 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 4 Jun 2018 at 09:40, Dave Wade via cctalk wrote: > Just to say I now have a bootable copy of the OS on SD card. Well done! > I got caught out because OS2 wildcarding works like UNIX wild carding, not > MSDOS wild carding. > So in order to back up the "C" drive you need "XCOPY C:\* ..

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-24 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 24 May 2018 at 14:51, Peter Corlett via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > There are two parts to this. The first is that Thunderbird is a bloated > monstrosity ejected when Mozilla collapsed under its own weight and went > supernova. It's had years of feature creep since. Up to a p

Re: I ran across this strange modernistic? Data General ...odd?

2018-05-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 23 May 2018 at 17:47, Chuck Guzis via cctech wrote: > The same situation applied to the Fairchild 9440 MicroFlame, which was > essentially a clone of the MicroNova architecture. This led me to some fascinating stuff. Thanks! The CPU: http://www.cpushack.com/2017/11/14/cpu-of-the-day-fa

Re: OT- Thunderbird ugliness, Was: Eudora email client source code released

2018-05-23 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Wed, 23 May 2018 at 16:28, JP Hindin via cctalk wrote: > Apologies to hijack this one (I can't tell you how impressed I am with > both the CHM's efforts and Qualcomm's release, I find these things really > exciting for our hobby) - but I've been having real troubles with TBird in > the last fe

Extracting and viewing the original Mac bitmap fonts today

2018-05-22 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
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Re: Restoring a PC Server 500 P/390

2018-05-14 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Tue, 15 May 2018 at 06:19, Adam Thornton via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > And I’m pretty sure it’ll work with whatever the final Warp Server release was (4, maybe?) by which time the native TCP/IP support was a lot better. Warp Server 4.5, I believe. Specifically 4.52 with various

Re: '90s era PC recommendation.

2018-05-07 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Mon, 7 May 2018 at 05:10, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I remember my AMD K6-II fondly. I ran a Cyrix 6x86-P166+ for a while as my main PC and it was a lovely machine. Alas, I needed to review one of the last versions of Aldus PageMaker and it wouldn't run on a Cyrix chip -- only on Intel

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 at 00:48, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > The Honda 600 was NOT a bike. Well, mostly not. After demise of the mid > 1960s Honda S600/S800 ("poor-man's-Ferrari" design exercise that got out > of hand and went into production), Honda engineers took a 360CC parallel > twin, detun

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 23:30, Geoffrey Oltmans wrote: > I don't know what it's like around your home, but most places in the US aren't terribly bike friendly. Since the advent of texting and smart phones even less so. Still, I keep thinking I should trade my one way 4 mile car commute for a bike

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 19:54, Geoff Oltmans wrote: > I think you'd find a few people this side of the pond whose first computer was a Timex Sinclair 1000 (our equivalent of the ZX81). I know that was true in our household... My dad purchased one brand-new at Albertson's (a supermarket chain in th

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 16:55, Zane Healy wrote: > My first computer was supposed to be a ZX81. I worked all Summer painting the house to earn it. As it happens, my payment was a VIC-20 with a tape recorder. I guess the VIC had colour and sound, but that 22-column screen always looked too much

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 23:04, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Neither "first", nor "sub-$1000" > Apple][ was $1298, and discounts were very rare. > TRS-80 at $599 was less than half the price. > Pet at $795 was barely more than half the price. The TRS-80 line barely sold over here, so I tend to

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 22:41, TeoZ via cctalk wrote: > My first computer was a Timex 2068 just before Timex got out of computers. I > had seen advertisements for the 1000 model but it looked like junk at the > time (no real keyboard, you needed to have the 16K RAM cart to do anything). > Still th

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 21:33, Mark J. Blair via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Over here in the US, I remember seeing the Sinclair QL in a magazine (probably Byte?) and thinking it looked exotic and interesting. I thought the little tape drives looked neat, and didn’t know enough to appr

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 19:26, Adrian Graham via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > My first was a ZX80 which my Dad borrowed from my physics teacher at school. That spurred me on to get my own ZX81 which had just come out, then the Research Machines 380Z at later school, then the 48K ZXSpect

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 19:17, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > Very interesting to see this perspective from the UK! Oh good. :-) > Located in the U.S. (Washington, D.C), I started with an Apple II+ in 1979 as a 12 year old. This confirms the sort of thing I read. US users had specifications of kit w

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 17:55, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > There was a very large Timex 1000 / ZX81 user base in the US. I have quite > a lot of newsletters and documents from these groups. I even did an exhibit > on the subject of SIGs for the Timex 1000 ZX81 at VCF MW a few years ago. >

Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
A lengthy interview with the later great Rick Dickinson, product designer of basically every Sinclair computer, who sadly died of cancer on Tuesday. https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/an-interview-with-rick-dickinson-3fea60537338 He not only did the ZX 80, ZX 81, ZX Spectrum and the QL, but also the

More retro than you might think: the LCD

2018-04-25 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
Science The tech you're reading these words on – you have two Dundee uni boffins to thank for that Spear and LeComber stumbled on the thin-film-transistor liquid-crystal display 40 years ago By Alistair Dabbs 25 Apr 2018 at 09:15 https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/25/dundee_hidden_home_of_tf

Re: 8085 Dissasembly?

2018-04-19 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On 19 April 2018 at 17:37, Liam Proven wrote: > > I don't know when a word stops being new, but that one is a good 35 years old: > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heisenbug (But saying that, I like it, too. Even as a rookie programmer around the time it was defined, in my trivial programs, I'd se

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