On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 07:19:17AM +1100, Kevin Parker via cctalk wrote:
> not sure of that's a realistic expectation of what they're worth or not.
Put it this way: if you find out what they are smoking, please let me know.
mcl
On Tue, Dec 05, 2017 at 01:51:25PM +, Jonathan Katz via cctalk wrote:
> Totally on the wrong continent but this needs to be saved!!!
Looks like there are already several users on Twitter who have stepped up.
(I would have drive up from Austin myself -- even though I need *less* stuff.)
mcl
I'll be happy to give away my Palm collection to anyone who will pay
shipping from Austin, TX, USA.
No, they don't work :-) But there's a Palm original, Palm III, and
Palm VII.
(and yeah, I would, uh, kinda have to find them.)
The only thing I would ask in return is if you get them going,
There are a few lots that may be of interest to people on this list.
Disclaimer: I have no connection to any of this. I just browse proxibid.com
once in a while.
The overall link:
On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 02:01:10AM -0500, drlegendre . via cctalk wrote:
> Sorry about that. Trying to type from a hosp bed, had a broken hip that
> didn't heal and needed multiple surgeries. Been in for almost two months.
We, the list, are giving you the following direct order:
get better
On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 08:52:26AM -0500, Jules Richardson via cctalk wrote:
> Lots of early SCSI devices have no support for the Inquiry command, which
> trips up modern software which expects it - I don't know if it was simply
> ignored, or if there was a point in time where it wasn't present in
On Sat, Oct 07, 2017 at 01:34:44PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> My biggest problem with heavy the stuff is stairs.
So far, my algorithm has been:
- field-strip the SOB;
- if still too heavy, fall back to neighbor + 6 pack.
mcl
I forgot to mention a couple of weeks ago that I was taking a
road trip to get out the Texas heat. Now that I've fulfilled
my social obligations in Minnesota, I'm going to work my way over
to Cleveland and then Pittsburg. I do have the pickup truck with
me so if someone needs to move stuff
On Mon, Sep 04, 2017 at 09:21:06PM -0700, Ryan Finnie via cctalk wrote:
> - Two 2U BayTech RPC9E remote PDUs, 20 5-15R outlets each, L5-20P plugs.
> You can control these via serial (with an odd pinout), telnet, and IIRC
> SSH.
Have you given these away yet?
If not, can you tell me if they are
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 04:55:48PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> Not nearly as funny to watch as a Mergenthaler Linotype hot-type
> machine, I'll wager.
I got to see one in use my freshman year of college. The school
newspaper was still set that way (out of loyalty for the people
who
On Wed, Aug 02, 2017 at 03:59:30PM +0200, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
> Thanks god that I am not in the US, because here, even eBay has to follow
> local legislation. Or in other words, we have consumer rights [...]
But here in the US ... the government "of the lawyers, by the lawyers,
and
On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 10:01:08AM -0400, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
> I don't know if DEC was the first to publish software on CDROM; it
> certainly was fairly early.
Somewhere in my collection I have the first three BSDI releases (I was a
very early customer).
The first two, 0.3.3 and 0.9.1
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 02:20:49AM +0100, Henry Bond via cctalk wrote:
> I have just got a couple of these out of the dumpster
Welp ... checking the following:
https://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?infotype=dd=sm=pseries=897/ENUS7025-F50
I can kinda see why.
(disclaimer: I have
On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 08:00:24PM -0400, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> ( we have xtra set for sale too... Large... heavy and many panel set)
Pictures please?
mcl
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 11:54:55AM +1000, Steve Malikoff via cctalk wrote:
> So, I've just joined and put up a few docs this Saturday morning...
> https://archive.org/details/@galasphere347
ooh, F8 stuff. My pile of that is on my to-do list for this summer.
There may still be a chip in a
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 06:27:57PM +, Rich Alderson via cctalk wrote:
> In order for this work to be done by volunteers, they first have to be
> vetted, and their work must be overseen by a professional (which costs
> those scarce funds).
Simply this statement would have answered my newbie
Is there no way that occasional volunteer effort could be used in this
or other tasks at the CHM?
mcl
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:54:03AM -0700, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote:
> They are trivial to access. You just have to cart your lazy asses to
> Fremont.
I'll get down there just as soon as I've scanned in all my own stuff.
mcl
dang it you were too fast
On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 03:31:17PM -0400, Noel Chiappa via cctalk wrote:
> The listing says "Local pick-up only", and it's in Denver, Colorado.
OK Warner, better saddle up and ride.
mcl
On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 07:30:07PM -0400, Michael Thompson via cctech wrote:
> Dan and I did a rescue run yesterday and came back with four Data General
> systems; a Nova/3, a Nova/4, an Eclipse S/20, an Eclipse MV/4000, and a
> large assortment of test equipment and spares.
Nice score!
mcl
currently in Houston, heading back to Austin on Sun or Mon,
would need to hear about what they want within "soon", have
F-150, need vague excuse to go to Little Rock, Arkansas (power5)
mcl
On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 07:41:25PM -0400, allison via cctalk wrote:
> *Vonada's Engineering Maxims* are a group of pithy observations about
> computer engineering
There's too much hard-learned truth in all that, to be funny.
mcl
If no one who e.g. worked for Sun steps up, I'll take it.
mcl
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 09:15:27AM -0400, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote:
> I also saved what C-sized prints I could find, and the rest
> appear to be on Bitsavers.
I was given a pile of them many years ago. If there is something missing,
let me know. My project to declutter has stalled at the
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 02:05:56AM -0400, Paul Birkel via cctalk wrote:
> Need some lovin'. Not near enough to here .
I would go to Iowa. Hell, it's not *that* far from Texas.
(OTOH I could only take one of them.)
Guess I'll have to sign up in the a.m. so I can see the pictures.
mcl
On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 06:19:41PM +, Randy Dawson via cctech wrote:
> It was in FreeBSD ports, in graphics but they removed it (why?).
portsjail% grep dore MOVED
graphics/dore||2011-05-02|Has expired: Upstream disappeared and distfile is no
longer available
So, someone would have to take
On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 08:32:41PM -0600, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote:
> One of the tenants of the ProCD case
tenets? You must have renters on your mind again. That NM place maybe?
mcl
On Wed, Mar 01, 2017 at 05:22:10PM -0500, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove via cctalk
wrote:
> Don't forget what a machine room and the equipment looks like.
I think everyone has forgotten the most important part of the recreation.
There simply *must* be someone standing in the room to scream
DON'T
On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 07:26:25AM -0500, allison via cctalk wrote:
> I just fire up the PDP-11/73 (RL02, RX02, RD52x3,), then Microvax-II/GPX,
> Then the PDP-8f
Right now in the server room here at the house it's at 77dB -- well,
right at the server rack; it's a bit lower where I sit.
On Sat, Mar 04, 2017 at 01:34:25PM -0800, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
> terrible fluorescent lighting.
There's another kind?
:-)
mcl
On Thu, Mar 02, 2017 at 08:11:34AM -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> It hardly took any time at all to get those to the point where it would
> accept, "LET THERE BE LIGHT"
"I'll ... have to think about it."
mcl
On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:02:09PM -0800, Chris Hanson wrote:
> Here I thought this would be about the newly listed Symbolics 3600 board:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/152451344620
zero sales from that user.
*run*.
mcl
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 07:33:49AM -0800, jim stephens wrote:
> Also, the motorcycle term used to describe this system's condition, is
> "ridden hard and put up wet".
Hmm, in Texas I have only heard that used to apply to horses.
mcl
now we've devolved into complete absurdity.
mcl
sorry, I see that someone else had already posted this.
I'm only about 100 messages behind on the list.
mcl
> Does anyone collect Varian minis?
Oddly I was shown this eBay ad when looking at Al's latest post. Don't
know if anyone else spotted it.
Machine looks nice but far, far, out of my price range:
On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 10:31:50PM -0600, Chris Elmquist wrote:
> These are the things you learn while having to _wait_ (and wait and
> wait) to use the Teletype 33 and dialup modem in the room next to the
> little chemistry lab.
Did we go to the same high school?
mcl
On Mon, Jan 09, 2017 at 08:48:14PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote:
> YIKES! 200 ml? Nowadays, that would cause everybody from the EPA to
> Homeland Security to get involved!
I'm not sure the statute of limitations has run out on what my friend
(we'll call him "Joe") and I got up to in high school
On Sat, Jan 07, 2017 at 04:26:25PM -0800, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> I'm sure that Paul remembers the CDC 6603 disk drive, made by Bryant
> (the big horizontal spindle one with the hydraulic "leak collectors").
I didn't see the Bryant that Rice University had in operation on the
R1 Research Computer; I
On Tue, Jan 03, 2017 at 04:19:01PM -0500, Paul Koning wrote:
> Making a new drum sounds like a great class project for an ambitious
> machine shop student.
Very ambitious. IIRC for the G-15 there is/are (one? two?) timing track(s)
which were written at the factory. Of course whatever that
On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 11:51:27PM -0600, Jon Elson wrote:
> There were instructions that would copy a whole long line of data to
> the short lines so that these could be accessed every 4 word times,
> instead of having to wait a full drum revolution for the next word.
Yeah, I had forgotten about
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 12:37:00AM -0500, Evan Koblentz wrote:
> There were 500 units made.
Hmm ... I remember from the old days that it was in the low 200s.
> We hope to restore it one of these days.
Well let me know if I can help. In the new year one of my tasks is
to dust off the G-15 web
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 01:02:50AM -0500, Evan Koblentz wrote:
> Yes. When museum visitors ask, "What is its clock speed?," I reply,
> "Something like a few hundred RPM." :)
OK, try again. "29msec cycle time".
Look ... it was nearly 50 years ago, ok?
mcl
On Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 01:02:50AM -0500, Evan Koblentz wrote:
> Yes. When museum visitors ask, "What is its clock speed?," I reply,
> "Something like a few hundred RPM." :)
Ancient dusty brain cells say "29usec cycle time".
mcl
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 01:57:00PM -0800, Al Kossow wrote:
> Don't be in the same room with these for long
It'd be a lot quieter than anything I have powered on in the rack ATM.
mcl
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 07:52:20AM -0500, william degnan wrote:
> Old Computerworlds from the time had a lot of ads for timesharing
> services.
That was before everyone decided it was far cheaper and saner to own
and administer their own systems.
(ahem.)
Mark "everything old is new again"
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 09:07:08PM -0800, jim stephens wrote:
> This time the Buy it Now price id $999
fwiw, it did not sell.
mcl
On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 03:50:45PM -0500, Paul Koning wrote:
> A pretty impressive combination of command and data chaining.
s/impressive/terrifying/
mcl
On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 03:53:33PM -0500, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> Noel (who was an early Wikipediast, until the Marching Morons arrived)
I hear Venus is very nice this time of year.
mcl
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 10:52:46PM -0800, Ian S. King wrote:
> There are a few things I'd like from that list as well, but (a) I'm not
> going to Austin to get it
I'm in Austin and I'm not going across town to get it :-)
Frankly I already have some stuff that looks in better shape than that, out
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 09:59:18PM -0800, jim stephens wrote:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/361777459013
Looks like all the other seller's items are high by a factor of 10
as well :-)
Too bad. I would have given the Motorola a home. Maybe even those
Sun 4/110s out of nostalgia.
mcl
On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 11:23:58AM -0800, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> But if you're a suburban resident living on Mulberry Street, anything
> but single-phase is pretty much out of the question.
Oh, you can get it -- but be prepared for a large hassle.
A former neighbor had a 440V 3-phase Italian lathe
On Mon, Nov 07, 2016 at 08:04:09PM -0500, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> now I know what ours is worth!
Clearly not. But I'll be happy to take it off your hands for a hundred
bucks or so. Contact me privately.
(oh it's a JOKE folks :-) )
mcl
Just went through the proxibid site looking for more "treasures".
Anyone in Miami FL need a new-in-crate Tandem K2000? Oh yeah you
have to take all the junk next to it :-)
If it were on this side of the pond I'll be all over that.
mcl
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 05:32:07PM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> For Unix, tweaking the RP11 driver to handle the extended RP11 should
> take all of 12 minutes, tops! :-)
well played.
mcl
congrats!
mcl
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 12:49:50AM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote:
> Printronix
Printronixes, plural.
fwiw I also went through the "day 2" auction and although there are some
open-frame aluminum racks, most of the items of interest to this list are
in the "day 1" auction.
On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 01:19:00PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote:
> I'd have to dust off some brain cells to remember which card we used
> to port VxWorks on our (Mizar's) gear. 3Com perhaps?
Nope, the 9-track tape says CMC.
mcl
As off-topic threads go, this is absolutely the best :-)
mcl
On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 08:06:34AM -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
> Any model you had in mind?
I'd have to dust off some brain cells to remember which card we used
to port VxWorks on our (Mizar's) gear. 3Com perhaps?
I'll have to go root around upstairs and see if I can find any bits.
mcl
On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 09:46:32AM -0400, Mouse wrote:
> Is that a late-night typo?
oh, absolutely. for VMEBus.
mcl
Is there anyone on this list who has a VNEbus Ethernet adapter?
I figure not, but I've been using a fair amount of alcohol to troll ePay
tonight, just out of morbid curiosity, and might as well ask.
mcl
On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 02:22:53AM -0600, Eric Smith wrote:
> I once wrote an address error handler for the MC68020 so that I could
> execute misaligned code. Very very slowly.
This cannot possibly be sufficiently funny except to anyone who was in
the industry at the time.
mcl
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 01:40:40AM +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
> Stupid question: it's not called ``perl5'' or something now, as Perl 6
> is *finally* out?
About a zillion lines of software expect it to be called "perl".
And perl6 has been imminent for ... some time. FreeBSD shows 5394 ports
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:48:00AM +0200, Stefan Skoglund (lokal användare)
wrote:
> I dislike very much the removal of perl from the default install.
Yeah, well ... about that :-(
I understand the reasoning behind it. At one time FreeBSD had perl in
the base. The problem was the support
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 09:29:30AM +0200, Peter Corlett wrote:
> Never mind that trying to get their alleged "support" to actually fix
> anything is like pissing into the wind.
As opposed to major vendors such as Microsoft and Oracle? ;-)
mcl
On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 09:33:01PM -0700, m...@markesystems.com wrote:
> HP 1630G Logic Analyzer: $10
> Complete set of probes: $500
Too true to be truly funny.
mcl
You just had to go by each manufacturer's documentation. I can say
this with some authority, as I wrote some of said documentation during
my several years at Mizar :-)
There is the spec, of course, but that only tells you what each board
must implement so it can talk to the others across the
On Thu, Sep 08, 2016 at 09:37:35PM +, Rich Alderson wrote:
> ("Wagon Train to the Stars", as Roddenberry envisioned it.)
Well, specifically, how he sold the concept to the networks.
mcl
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 08:55:40AM +0200, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
> Wow, what an attitude.. I don't know much about Unicomps but should
> lesser know machines but unusual machines be preserved as well?
Well ... I imagine they already have decades worth of stuff to sort
through. (I am intending
On Wed, Sep 07, 2016 at 12:12:28AM -0400, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> I remember I would drive straight from AZ to San Jose non stop ...
Yeah. I can reasonably do 7 hours; 8 if I really push it but you don't
want to be in the car with me as I fuss and spit.
And you damned kids can get off all
On Tue, Sep 06, 2016 at 06:16:23PM -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
> There is also a Unicomp 18 bit minicomputer, paper tape reader,
> and FFT processor circa 1972 in the garage (6ft rack) with full
> documentation.
I think it would be a damned shame if this went to recycling. I can't
drive the 30 hours
On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 04:48:43PM -0500, Jules Richardson wrote:
> I'm up in Bemidji, MN
Heh, I was just there a couple of months ago.
mcl
On Mon, Sep 05, 2016 at 10:56:24PM -0500, j...@cimmeri.com wrote:
> If there's ever a vote taken up for whether to ban the constant billboarding
> of ebay ads here, I'm for "ban."
I would subscribe to a spin-off list that was merely for buy/sell/trade.
mcl
On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 04:40:55PM +, Jack Rubin wrote:
> The MPS (MicroProcessor Series) was an attempt by DEC to introduce an
> Intel 8008-based system as a cost-effective replacement
I had the displeasure of using a different 8008-based system; this one
was a typesetting machine.
I hadn't
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:49:29PM -0700, Fred Cisin wrote:
> I still don't understand what his motivation is.
It could just be mental illness :-(
mcl
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 08:12:43AM -0500, Jay West wrote:
> Yes. Done.
thank you.
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 07:40:32AM -0400, Christian Liendo wrote:
> I don't know about now, but SGI used to have a lot of Govt contracts
> and a lot of oil companies as customers.
IIRC Unisys eventually turned into a government contractor.
The thing is, if you build an organization big enough to
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 05:35:21PM -0400, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> we used to call green frogs and would scrap as fast as we ended up
> with them... now as a memento sort of wish we had saved one of the
> old evil things...
Heh, that sounds like the description of the Hazeltine terminals we
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 05:10:54PM -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
> Tom Hunter just got a release from CDC for the use of CDC software for
> non-commercial use, so any CDC tapes out in the wild are going to be of
> great interest.
Congratulations to Tom.
mcl
On Tue, Aug 02, 2016 at 03:36:44PM -0500, Mark Linimon wrote:
> (And these days I have time to fool around with this stuff more as I
> just retired.)
Which means I owe a couple of people on this list responses to earlier
email, too.
mcl
As a postscript, I was going to try to meet up with Doug and trade war
stories, but I had just gotten back from a 5-week road trip a few days
earlier and was glued to the couch.
But next time, if anyone on the list is coming through Austin please
let me know. About all I can pick up and move
On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 08:08:53PM -0700, Glen Slick wrote:
> For the curious about the eBay market value of the PDP-11/20 today, it
> just sold for $5,655.55
well, there goes that fantasy.
mcl
I see that someone has picked it up via Buy It Now. No,
it wasn't me.
mcl
On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 08:31:59PM -0500, James Vess wrote:
> Does anyone have the capacity to power the unit on in Texas?
Yeah but ... I wouldn't. The power supplies look too rough for me
to trust the smoke-test.
I can store it but I will lie if I say I can devote any time to it.
mcl
On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 01:43:38PM +1000, ste...@malikoff.com wrote:
> everyone in it striking that characteristic 60s/70s IBM-photo-pose, eg.
> someone leaning over a table, another reaching for a console knob, one
> changing a tape and at least two people earnestly discussing a printout.
I hardly need to note that anything stored in a self-store facility in
Austin for 17 years will have been subjected to very high termperatures.
mcl
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 08:35:33PM +0100, Dave Wade wrote:
> one salesman claims to have sold 1,000.
And we know salesmen would never, ever, lie.
mcl
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:07:42AM -0400, et...@757.org wrote:
> Craigslist buyers and sellers can be FLAKY, and at same time you can meet
> some awesome people through it (through the buying and selling of stuff, not
> including all the personals stuff.)
That's my experience. Often people don't
On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 11:21:03PM -0500, Kyle Owen wrote:
> I seem to have acquired a few boards from a decommissioned system.
74S00s, they were going for speed.
The 2900s are the well-known bit-slice chips.
All definitely the level of technology I cut my teeth on.
mcl
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 06:12:28PM -0400, Evan Koblentz wrote:
> Maybe one day we'll have a flea/swap event. Perhaps even include that as a
> separate day before/after the main show.
I think that would be a great idea.
I would certainly go to both.
mcl
Nothing too great in the way of surplus, but you could try Discount
Electronics. The store on the north side tends to have more used
equipment.
If you just want to get together and hang out let me know. I'm
on the far west side of town. Mostly what I have is newer servers,
though. But telling
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 08:34:00PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Mark Linimon <lini...@lonesome.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 03:54:40PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote:
> >> they were strictly 31-bit only.
> >
> > Dang, I sus
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 03:54:40PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote:
> they were strictly 31-bit only.
Dang, I suspected they were hobbled, but that's painful.
mcl
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 11:43:43PM -0500, James Vess wrote:
> I'm not sure what you mean by Printros?
Printronixeses or something :-)
I am heading back into Austin within the next 12 hours
so if someone wants me to scout out something speak up
quickly. Once I get back home I may take my shoes
Have you gotten any takers yet?
I have a special soft spot for those Printros.
mcl
Fortunately or unfortunately I am away from Austin right
now or I would go take a look.
mcl
On Fri, Feb 05, 2016 at 05:54:44PM -0500, Steven Hirsch wrote:
> I've finally had my fill of the general grumpiness and bluntly worded
> interactions on this list.
Sorry to hear that. I fight against such things on other lists I am on,
but some weeks I also wonder why.
mcl
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