I was curious about the opinion and reply :-)
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>>
>> Cameron, how did you like Plua and what did you do with it?
>>
>
> Oops, sorry for sending this out to the list
Searching quickly on google I see a reference to the one at the CHM in mountain
view.
Also found this https://trademark.trademarkia.com/cowculator-72119112.html
which acknowledges the company. Not sure if it would link to additional info.
Interestingly there are newer ones also seem to be
Not sure if it's that easy but if the file on CD-ROM had a consistent name, a
specific google or ftp search engine may actually be useful to find other
copies out there.
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>> There used to be an article about OpenVMS release history, naturally it's
>> been wiped.
>>
I'll be curious to hear what you end up getting. I've also meant to acquire one
over the years just for historical education and display sake. One thing to
keep in mind, but I'm sure you're aware is the physical size. Often they're
quite small. However I think eBay sellers recent years have
Is there a specific reference you have for this?
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> On Apr 14, 2019, at 2:16 AM, ED SHARPE via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> "arx-149" computer. .. what Is?thanks ed#
Are these yours Bill? Interesting to see the Kenbak and story behind buying
most of the Nova Scotia museum.
Lots of interesting other things seller has as well. Prices vary like a lot of
eBay sellers but some neat stuff the collector has.
Color me jealous. ;-)
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>
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> On Mar 18, 2019, at 7:34 AM, Phil Blundell via cctalk
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2019-03-18 at 13:03 +0100, GerardCJAT via cctalk wrote:
>> The TECHNICAL problem : I am repairing a not so old electric typewriter.
>> I need to replace what I call : a flexible printed
>
> tl;dr: Is there a software repository for AtariST comparable to Aminet?
>
>
I don't follow it much, so I can't really say for sure what systems or software
are in the archive. But there was an effort for collecting "all" games and
software for many systems called TOSEC. Unfortunately,
Was this John that had a computer museum in Houston? I hadn't really caught
what the back story was on this collection and collector.
Albeit, i know of a lot of Johns who are collectors. Myself included.
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> On Jan 24, 2019, at 5:02 PM, Electronics Plus via cctalk
>
Maybe too easy but have you asked the seller if they know anything about it's
origins? I'd also guess maybe an employee or it could just be one of the 6
motherboard types as someone else commented. Pretty awesome though with the low
serial. Thanks also for the blog. I had no idea about the
>> SGI desktops made for home use,
>
> Whoah whoah whoah, what?
>
> SGI made home computers?!
I don't know that I saw a reply to this but I'm guessing the reference is the
SGI Indy? And maybe indigo could count as well for smaller systems that could
fit on a desk instead of desk-side
That's pretty awesome in a desk unit. Always wanted to get a trs or altair desk
unit. Hadn't realized there were many more.
Unfortunately distance and wife would be prohibitive for my collection. :-(
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> On Dec 10, 2018, at 6:10 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk
> wrote:
>
Oops. *Roswell not Atlanta.
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> On Jun 28, 2018, at 7:15 AM, Sam O'nella wrote:
>
> It's Lonnie in Atlanta. Spoken to him a few times in email and he/they are a
> serious investor in computer history. They also helped vintage computer
> festiva
It's Lonnie in Atlanta. Spoken to him a few times in email and he/they are a
serious investor in computer history. They also helped vintage computer
festival southeast get a location originally.
It's a good home for that gear.
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> On Jun 28, 2018, at 2:55 AM,
Yes the IBMs are worth tracking down. I always keep my eye out but rarely
see them come up for sale but it'd be fun to have an RS/6000 that doesn't
cause a hernia to move. My only similar one is a tadpole but I don't recall
the version. I used a universal power supply to get it to run for a
Wow. Pretty awesome museum gear. It'll be interesting to see how the bids go
and if a museum bids like several in the past.
Original message From: cctalk via cctalk
Date: 4/22/18 11:21 AM (GMT-06:00) To:
cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Amusing IBM test
The post on vcf wasn't on 4/1 but you're saying the picture was from it? Have
they done that before? (It does sound sorta familiar).
I hope its the joke. Us remote folks can't handle this! ;-)
Original message From: alan--- via cctalk
Date: 4/6/18 10:20
Wow. That's unfortunate. Only been in town twice but was definitely part of my
scheduled geekdom tour.
So any local stores left for that type of thing? Any word on why the closure?
I've always seen a lot of folks in the store (well my 2 times) but i don't know
how many purchased.
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Whoever or whichever group does get it, i hope if they have any files or
interesting info the rest of the clubs can help store.
null
For extra credit was it drawn in any particular vintage software or
computer?
Enjoying the virus/malware history as its always interesting to see what people
thought. Tricks, boredom, etc cause interesting results.
For punch cards i thought someone was going to mention punching all the holes
and jamming the reader. I'm not sure if thats real but heard some folks had to
You're one of the first people I've heard quote that. Do you know where that is
said? Years ago several friends and myself all picked up 64mb usb thumb drives
so we could have multiple backups of a game and few other projects we were
coding. Maybe it was an extended period of time (we ended up
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/lisalist/aIo6cNu54xM/_Ck_CsmSBgAJ
They may still be getting approvals, but here is the announcement implying both
OS and some applications may be included.
Original message From: Christian Corti via cctalk
Date:
Saw the announcement via slashdot also the other day. Definitely a kudos to
the CHM team!
null
I've seen rust and dust, but there's an old vaxstation II at Goodwill
Computers in Austin right now (very cheap, anyone welcome to buy it and get
it off my mind) but as most things, I checked out the back and see some
circles of white corrosion on the back where the cards? are contacting the
case.
I'm curious about this idea as well. Feels less fun to take a favorite kim-1 on
field trips lately.
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Can ya blame him? Back in his day 2s were *real* 2s.. bigger and tougher. You
try and add 'em up, assuming they'd stay still long enough and stop wrastlin'
with ya and who knows how big they'd be.
Original message From: Evan Koblentz via cctalk
My own
et PC / PDA
On Fri, 3 Nov 2017, Sam O'nella via cctalk wrote:
> I could have sworn there was a newer black colored m100 type system that
> someone was selling a bunch of on ebay. Iirc they were calling it the
> tandy killer and i thougbt it was a "slate".
Convergent Technol
I could have sworn there was a newer black colored m100 type system that
someone was selling a bunch of on ebay. Iirc they were calling it the tandy
killer and i thougbt it was a "slate".
I did forget about the m100 pc expansion though (price is always higher than
desirable). But best of both
It could also be from the popular article about George RR Martin using a
vintage dos computer with wordstar 4.0 for his writing rig. Similar to some
other authors I've heard look for a machine that doesn't offer distractions.
My own mis-remembrance though for some reason I thought it was a
I'll add a few more problem specs than answers but the down side of a lot of
devices is lack of backlit screen so working in a dark space can be a problem,
and I'd be quite interested to see real battery life reviews.
So many devices that can work only last a few hours on battery. Could be age
The wayback machine sorta of details the end of the site. Not sure how much
data is archived in archive.org.
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Yes, but the irony if us replying on-list isn't lost.
Original message From: Robert via cctalk
Date: 10/24/17 11:40 AM (GMT-06:00) To: "General
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re:
Is it really that quiet out
Just a friendly bump. Did anyone post this on vcfed or any mac collector
forums?
Original message From: Electronics Plus via cctalk
Date: 9/22/17 1:01 PM (GMT-06:00) To: "'General
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"
Should be easy but my mobile google fu is failing. Didn't Jay and a few others
know if a vintage computer key database/site somewhere? Would that possibly
have or benefit from getting afterwards?
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Figured I'd wait until it's too late ;-) is anyone thinking of streaming talks
or for brownie points a Commodore mud chat, etc? 8-bit audio stream?
I see some previous talks have been uploaded to YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCu3UDdi0llxiSaFKq-p5gYQ so thanks for that!
An uninteresting answer but is this proprietary data or something another
collector may have and could provide?
null
http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/1344/Texas-Instruments-TI-99-4A/ has
interesting knowledge of the serial for dating.
I don't know if it was my newb brain/false memory but i thought I saw someone
post a ti-99/2 prototype before (vcfed search can probably prove me right or
wrong). But the
Since it wasn't said already, i think (if its the same user) they've posted
similar auctions several times in the past also (over several years). You can
see some of us discuss it in vcfed.org forums.
No affiliation or bad blood myself. I know i bought my working Columbia Data
Products luggable
I haven't watched the entire thing yet but Hulu correctly identified it as
an item of interest for myself. http://amigafilm.com/ It may be available
other platforms (I did notice some copies seem to be on youtube although
not sure if that's legitimate).
Either way seems like a fun watch if
Morbid curiosity but decoded its spam for some movie url.
null
I don't know the etiquette but if you had the auction saved you might be able
to ask the seller a question and see if theyd be opposed to putting you in
contact with rhe buyer.
null
Theyre always out of my reach but is there a way to upgrade or convert
5100/5110s to IPL or basic or are you stuck with what you get?
Original message From: Robert via cctalk
Not mine and way too far for me to go, otherwise I'd be all over it.
Looks like the BASIC only version
What are the 4 games?
null
I dont think I've heard if the history of the technology behind cds. Was it
SRI? I only thought the first cdrom software at least was that encyclopedia on
CD?
This being 14" just sounds like a disk platter.
null
Im guessing its pottstown, PA
https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/sys/d/ibm-system/6157580080.html but thats
a guess. Only aware of it from an incorrext location tag making it show up near
Austin also.
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Extremely interesting Fred. I hadn't heard of half of those experimental disk
sizes. Are those stories from your experience or from that article? (Yes I'll
rtfm shortly).
The only odd one i have is a backup cartridge? that resembles around a 3.5" but
is in fact closer to the mythical 12"
Out of my own ignorance, did Xerox have models geared towards the home? Or was
this a store front for business/Altos types?
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Celebrate with a cake with 8 candles (1000)
Thats great. I guess i should scour the archives and maybe im holding on to
original books that arent as important anymore.
null
The assumptions pouring in could use a quick follow up. Date joke aside, did
they already try reading them? My guess would be yes hence the recovery request
possibly needing flux or more advanced recovery.
null
Ok revising my overly simple thought of vounteers showing up. What about a
class on document archival at VCFw (or other) and then an archive party?
Not trying to push a non-issue, but if that gets past any legal requirements id
still absolutely help out any of the local museums if in their
I never did query about that. I've only been twice in 10 years but if i was
there I'd certainly volunteer time if its something i either know or can
quickly learn to do.
VCF West Al nighter party :-)
Original message From: Mark Linimon via cctalk
Well
It's an interesting set of emotions to see another giant pass. Interesting
prices lol (the irony of some seeming high). Of course thanks for the post. I
think everyone went hush since it would mostly attract attention to anything of
bidding interest. Seems like some good stuff for museums
I have a similar but think mine says cordata which i guess yours is an early
model? Is there no model number or serial or was that edited out? Just curious.
If you post on vcfed.org some younger collectors will find the historical
significance interesting of a potential unauthorized IBM
That's a starting bid at 20,000 euros?
Original message From: Stéphane Tsacas via cctalk
Date: 5/30/17 5:56 PM (GMT-06:00)Subject: Micral N
(1974) for sale
If it happens you're in Tours (in France, https://goo.gl/maps/BXNZ4YJixYq)
June 11 2017, a
Any story on where it came from that might help?
Original message From: william degnan via cctech
Date: 5/12/17 12:59 PM (GMT-06:00) To: cctech
Subject: Identify Panel
From what hardware is this panel ?
Is this a thing? There's an archive of vintage physical computer keys? This
would be very cool. Heck one could potentially even 3d print a key for short
term usage.
Original message From: Dennis Boone via cctalk
Date: 5/10/17 4:13 PM (GMT-06:00) To:
(Waits for Jay's next email "This has been a test of the new auto banning
system. Thank you.")
Original message From: Alexandre Souza via cctalk
Date: 4/27/17 1:58 PM (GMT-06:00) To: "General
Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
Lol that quote. I guess i can google it but was this from one of his books?
"Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling
down the highway."–Andrew Tanenbaum, 1981
Original message From: Fred Cisin via cctalk
Date: 4/22/17
Tape backup lto would do it easily, at this point probably incremental backups
to an external drive would be a cheap alternative too.
On 4/20/2017 12:15 PM, Jay West wrote:
> Ben wrote...
>
> Just how big is the server?
>
> Bitsavers that is publicly visible is around 275gb
How does
Original message From: Christian Corti via cctalk
Date: 3/29/17 3:29 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Evan Koblentz
>On Tue, 28 Mar 2017, Evan Koblentz wrote:
>> "What do an Apple 1, Commodore 65, >>Enigma Machine, and the inventor of C++
>> all
I thought the Vintage Computer festival west link might have recommended hotels
but I couldn't find anything for you.
I did a similar trip but needed to be quite a few hours south for my actual
destination. I didn't find a very cheap hotel either, and the under $100 one I
did find near long
For the record, I and I'm sure lots of others look forward to this blog of
experience.
Original message From: Terry Stewart via cctalk
One other question regarding using this MS-DOS 486 to run an 8 inch floppu
This had kept the prices on that model a bit higher. The serial port while
smaller is easy to hack a cable for most connections you need. I guess it's not
that way for the other models? I hear it very often for the lx-200 pretty
exclusively.
Original message From: Robert
Original message From: jim stephens via cctalk
On 3/17/2017 9:01 PM, Peter C. Wallace via cctalk wrote:
>>also significant pressure from SO to
>> "get rid of that junk"
>So far noone that matters has said anything >that dumb to me.
It happens when your
This statement is hurting my brain. I was never an Apple (company) user or fan
but personally felt the Apple product line was hacker friendly before the Apple
II c threatened to void your warranty if opened, then the Mac seemed to follow
similar unfriendly EULAS.
But then again I wouldn't have
Original message From: Glen Slick via
cctalk wrote:
>>
>> www.ebay.com/itm/122383386508
>>
>> still a few hours to go, hovering at $20K
>
>
>And the answer is $32,100.52 (plus $20.95 >shipping)
Ugh.. they always get ya on the shipping.
As others said, we're not lawyers so ymmv but I would take it as the same as
selling a used cd, dvd, software or books. The usual law is we can't copy it.
So scanning it, if that company or company's intellectual property is still in
existence they might care. But selling originals is usually
Perhaps a silly question but have you poked around local social media for a
local unix group? Or a local craigslist ad for someone to borrow a key? I
wouldn't think they'd be thst uncommon although admittedly I also
stopped/paused a project for similar lack of results a while back (much
Am I misremembering or wasn't denatured alchohol the recommended type when
cleaning rubber type computer parts (i.e. rollers in laser printers). I thought
isopropyl dried them out. I don't know the affects on either other than that
though.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/85127208@N05/7799377360/in/photostream
Not sure if this URL will share properly but this is one item I'd love to hear
if anyone knows about. Definitely one of my most unusual prices however I
bought it from a fellow collector and he got it from a friend's pawn shop
http://www.starringthecomputer.com/feature.html?f=728
Not the system she seems to be looking at but one item noted by some collector
out there were grid compass laptops.
On a side note Dave, incase you hadn't already you should change your password
since that was included in the original post.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 5:54 PM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote:
>
>
> On 12/17/2016 1:23 PM, Stephen Pereira wrote:
>
>> I was (finally) lucky enough to acquire an Altair 680 back in November...
>>
>
> Is there any logic to the naming of these Altairs? Wonder why it wasn't
> "Altair
Did you ask on vcfed forums? I do recall a few years ago one or two folks
offering to make sets although being years ago you may have been one of them :-)
Original message From: william degnan
Date: 12/11/16 4:17 PM (GMT-06:00) To: cctech
I'm not sure specifically on the z-160 but my z-150 had it (iirc and it's been
a while ctrl+alt+ins or ctrl+alt+enter) I think put you in the diagnostic rom
which had a debugger.
Curiously though i dont know if that is a hardware function or a feature of
zdos?
Original message
I'm not sure if it would make a difference but in your membership options to
the list you can choose the format of the messages and how you'd like to
receive them. I know my settings are plain text but I haven't played with the
others to know if they have an option like that.
The only time I've
Argument goes both ways. Does anyone really do practical things with any home
computer?
On the vcf forums I enjoyed two folks who eventually got their two PDP models
running chess and had them play eachother. I'd like to see a rematch or maybe
some new vintage competitors approach :-)
If they
Did you end up trying anything yet? Isn't there some requirement for a working
battery for it to power on or was that just the power routing through the
battery so a corroded one isn't a simple run without it fix?
Original message From: Chris Pye Date:
Ditto although my timing was odd and I may have gotten the notice prior to
replying. I emailed Jay off list but understandably he should be having some
family time during this holiday break and not having to worry about us right
now :-)
Hopefully there's a log or something noting what the mail
Should we do some sort of tradition of what vintage computing item we're
thankful for? If that's too much of a repeat it could be a vintage project
this year that you're thankful for.
I know we're all thankful for Jay and classiccmp.org.
I'm thankful for my recent successful visit to San Jose.
I think it's the hardware or server company folks might have an attachment
towards. I only saw novell 3.x and up but it was all standard x86 arch. Did
they support other platforms?
Original message Not many here seem to be into preserving
Novell servers and such.
I could be
Cindy as in electronic plus?
Original message From: "Tapley, Mark"
I'm trying to help Cindy find homes for some of what's left from her
warehouse. I can hold them only temporarily ( :-) )
Out of curiosity and ignorance what's with the solder joints on the cards in
the pictures? That orange color seems like it's everywhere around cold looking
solder joints. Is that rust, some sort or protection, or acid corrosion?
Original message From: Mark G Thomas
Out of curiosity, since I've never done this either but have heard most folks
suggest it. How do you seal the newly made jacket? Is it not necessary or folks
using scotch tape?
I wouldn't dismiss it if you're using images or any used software. Yes some
platforms are more susceptible than others but unless you have no hard drive,
power your system off after every use, and never switch disks while system is
running it's still something that can infest your originals or
Just curious, I probably could have just asked Jay but incase this was wider
spread I received a message that my subscription at my Gmail was suspended due
to bounces. I was wondering if that may have been only today and more
widespread from the Dyn dns ddos that happened? If so others may want
No idea why this ended up in my spam folder, but replying just to get it
one more look as-if it needed any help ;-) I'm surprised he doesn't ebay
it to be honest. The last sentence, is that Rick asking or you Steven
asking?
On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 3:44 AM, steven stengel
Does that archive on classiccmp.org have the infected images removed or
cleaned? (Just curious as I remember this came up in a couple other forums
that I think one or two of the images did have a virus).
On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:17 AM, James Attfield
wrote:
> > From:
Congratulations! Fun to find some of the wooden generation of computers. Keep
us posted on the restoration efforts (if any) :-)
Original message From: "Mark J. Blair"
》the deal to be completed in a little over a week
Good find on archive.org even in .gz format still. I'm fairly positive the
incident was discussed on the mailing list and vcfed. Issues happen and it was
a perfect storm.
I like to chock it up to new technology failing us. ;-)
Kudos to Jay for keeping this alive as well as he does. Lots of great
I don't get the lack of love here. Every good hacker knows the answer is
because it can. I think it adds to the charm and shows the power of the Amiga
quite well. Also it shows off the technology of a computer on a card
technology.
For the architecture wars fans it also reflects that they
Lol well crap. I was trying to remember which member here owned that site but
figured it out. So where'd you find the picture Steven?
Original message
> From: steven stengel
>
> What is this unusual Apple Lisa display - some sort of diagnostics?
>
>
A bit off topic other than tips for anyone else trying to travel cheaply. I
have a trip to California in a month although the final destination isn't
San Jose.
I can fly in to SJC and Google is sounding like I might be able to get a
few bus hops from the airport and find my way there? Any tips,
Interestingly? The trading post area on the forum is login required.
Original message From: John Ames
Date: 8/15/16 9:29 PM (GMT-06:00) To: cctalk Subject:
Large Mac liquidation in Denver, 8/21
http://m.ebay.com/itm/DEC-PDP8-I-MINICOMPUTER-PDP8-PDP-8-PDP-8-/201627112300
Did someone already post this other pdp-8 auction? Same semi-ridiculous
starting price as other straight 8 but i honestly don't know enough about PDP
to know what this is or if its not a straight version. Seems like a
There may be some archives here or vcf with enough prices. Iirc i thought i
remember one selling for something pretty high (8000/12000?) X years ago
although i think like this it's a calculated price of doubling the last sale
they saw. Although apple 1s seem to accomplish whatever that law is
I thought it had said CP/M code in DOS? Revisited..." Sometimes I really think
I'm dyslexic.
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Evan Koblentz
> Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2016 10:45 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and
Original message
The thing about the Amiga was its wow factor -- I remember
walking into Compucentre (Canadian chain) in the mid-80s.. and there's all
the computers from 8 bit heaven and their 16 color graphics (if you were
lucky).. and then there's this one computer on a
I haven't built or marketed anything myself but i believe if i understood
correctly from several folks who have that vga was a cheaper choice due to
licensing costs for dvi or hdmi at the time.
Not sure if vga is past that point or open but when keeping home brew kits
cheap for us hobbyists
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