[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-23 Thread Tony Jones via cctalk
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023, 9:27 PM Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > > , the maximum > supported resolution on an external monitor is 1600x1200, but at 75Hz, > which isn't supported by all monitors. > I just did some research on what LCDs could handle 75hz at 1600*1200 and bought one (HP) used off

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-22 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023 at 1:39 PM Tony Jones via cctalk wrote: > > I'm in Portland OR I have one 16702B and one 16700B for sale.As Glen > says, an external monitor is really nice. There are a few modern LCDs that > can make use of opt B if your unit has it. The built-in LCD on the 16702A /

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-21 Thread W2HX via cctalk
: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: Martin Bishop Subject: [cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G? You could try an AMD (ex Xilinx) logic analyser ... Basically, use the logic analysis capabilities provided (free) by FPGA OEMs to construct a DIY LA. In brief, the LA is in the FPGA

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-21 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Aug 20, 2023, at 7:27 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk > wrote: > > On Sun, 20 Aug 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > >> On 8/20/23 12:43, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 12:05 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < >>> cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: >>> Hello all.

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-21 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
I have both, and I end up using the 1670G most of the time because it is so much more convenient. The acquisition cards on the 16xxx keep failing too. Marc > On Aug 20, 2023, at 12:43 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk > wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 12:05 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < >

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
In any case, when it comes to eBay sellers of logic analyzers, be very careful. I remember asking a seller about a particular HP LA where the claim was made as "working". But oddly, no test pods were pictured. I asked the seller about that and the reply was "We don't have pods, but when we

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 8/20/2023 6:55 PM, Tony Jones via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 3:44 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: And so on. Am I looking in the wrong spot? No but you need to look longer and as I said prices are all over the place. I see resellers asking for

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread Tony Jones via cctalk
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 3:44 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > And so on. Am I looking in the wrong spot? > No but you need to look longer and as I said prices are all over the place. I see resellers asking for $1500-2000.Do a sold items search and track

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread Mike Loewen via cctalk
On Sun, 20 Aug 2023, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 8/20/23 12:43, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 12:05 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: Hello all. I looking around for a Logic Analyzer for doing (mostly) DEC QBus/UniBus stuff. Being the

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 8/20/23 12:43, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 12:05 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> Hello all. I looking around for a Logic Analyzer for doing (mostly) DEC >> QBus/UniBus stuff. Being the way I am I want something with enough lines

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 8/20/2023 3:45 PM, Tony Jones via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 12:05 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: I've seen a lot of posts at the EEVblog and it seems I missed possibly the golden age of 16700 LA by a few years price-wise. Also unsure what you

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 12:05 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: Hello all.  I looking around for a Logic Analyzer for doing (mostly) DEC QBus/UniBus stuff.  Being the way I am I want something with enough lines to handle the most of the signals so I'm guessing

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread Martin Bishop via cctalk
You could try an AMD (ex Xilinx) logic analyser ... Basically, use the logic analysis capabilities provided (free) by FPGA OEMs to construct a DIY LA. In brief, the LA is in the FPGA libraries / GUI, you do of course have to wire them up both inside (Vivado) and outside (level shifters and

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread Jim Brain via cctalk
On 8/20/2023 3:23 PM, Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: On Aug 20, 2023, at 12:44, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: Where are you located? That can have a large impact on the cost of acquiring a large 16700-series logic analyzer. For example, I have more of those than I need in the Seattle area. A

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread Tony Jones via cctalk
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 12:05 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I've seen a lot of posts at the EEVblog and it seems I missed possibly the > golden age of 16700 LA by a few years price-wise. > Also unsure what you mean by this. I wouldn't pay more than $150 for an

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread Tony Jones via cctalk
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 1:23 PM Alan Perry via cctalk wrote: > > Oooh. I am in the Seattle area and have been thinking that I need a LA. > > alan I'm in Portland OR I have one 16702B and one 16700B for sale.As Glen says, an external monitor is really nice. There are a few modern LCDs that

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread Alan Perry via cctalk
> On Aug 20, 2023, at 12:44, Glen Slick via cctalk > wrote: > > > > Where are you located? That can have a large impact on the cost of > acquiring a large 16700-series logic analyzer. For example, I have more of > those than I need in the Seattle area. A local deal might work out well, >

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread Adrian Godwin via cctalk
There have been a few threads very recently in https://groups.io/g/HP-Agilent-Keysight-equipment which you would probably find interesting. There is a lot of enthusiasm over the 1670 and 16700 machines - I wouldn't say you've missed the sweet spot since these are now often much cheaper than the

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread John H. Reinhardt via cctalk
On 8/20/2023 2:43 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 12:05 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: Hello all. I looking around for a Logic Analyzer for doing (mostly) DEC QBus/UniBus stuff. Being the way I am I want something with enough lines to

[cctalk] Re: Logic Analyzers - HP/Agilent 16700B or 1670G?

2023-08-20 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Sun, Aug 20, 2023, 12:05 PM John H. Reinhardt via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Hello all. I looking around for a Logic Analyzer for doing (mostly) DEC > QBus/UniBus stuff. Being the way I am I want something with enough lines > to handle the most of the signals so I'm guessing