Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-17 Thread Gregory Beat via cctalk
“RA” solder (like Kester “44”), resolves most issue, other than copper solder trace failures. greg === From: Sean Ellis To: Chuck Guzis , "ClassicCMP” Subject: Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card Well, thanks for all the help guys - Finally narrowed it down to a JE1078 on Stason: https://s

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-16 Thread Sean Ellis via cctalk
Well, thanks for all the help guys - Finally narrowed it down to a JE1078 on Stason: https://stason.org/TULARC/pc/io-cards/I-L/JAMECO-ELECTRONIC-COMPONENTS-Multi-I-O-card-JE1078.html I can believe this thing was made in Taiwan - I had to repair probably 1/4 of all the joints on the card because th

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-16 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/16/20 4:23 PM, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 3:41 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk > wrote: > >> Is "QC OK" the brand name? :-) >> > > Clearly we need a QC OK stickers reproduced onto a T Shirt for the next > time we can get together... Rivaled only by "Inspected by No.

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-16 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Oct 16, 2020, 3:41 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Is "QC OK" the brand name? :-) > Clearly we need a QC OK stickers reproduced onto a T Shirt for the next time we can get together... Warner They made a lot of stuff. > Some of their premium stuff was designed by Pat Pending. > > >

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-16 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Is "QC OK" the brand name? :-) They made a lot of stuff. Some of their premium stuff was designed by Pat Pending. On 10/16/20 11:15 AM, Gregory Beat via cctalk wrote: This is a “Taiwanese generic 6-Pak” Add-In (8-bit ISA) expansion card. RAM 384 kB; Serial port, Parallel port, Game port, AND

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-16 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/16/20 11:15 AM, Gregory Beat via cctalk wrote: > Sean, Fred, and Glen — > This is a “Taiwanese generic 6-Pak” Add-In (8-bit ISA) expansion card. > RAM 384 kB; Serial port, Parallel port, Game port, AND Real Time Clock ! Exactly. The generic "QC OK" oval sticker is the tipoff that this is

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-16 Thread Gregory Beat via cctalk
; battery > http://www.tadiranbat.com/assets/tll-5902.pdf > Tadiran TL-5902/P $6.65 > https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/tadiran-batteries/TL-5902-P/512507 > > greg, w9gb > chicago > === > Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 17:34:58 -0700 > From: Glen Slick > To: &q

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-16 Thread Gregory Beat via cctalk
Subject: Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 5:24 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: >> On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, Sean Ellis via cctalk wrote: >> I got this (currently exploded) mystery RAM, RTC, and I/O board out of >> a dead Sanyo luggable the other night, and onc

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-16 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On 10/15/2020 6:55 PM Richard Cini via cctalk wrote: > > > Well, it looks like one of those memory/multi-IO/clock boards like the AST > RAMPACK+. I would take a look at this site (which you might already know): > > https://stason.org/TULARC/pc/memory-cards/index.html > > When I was lookin

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-15 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
looks simlar to a card used in a ge workmaster for ge faunic plc stuff On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 8:09 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >>> https://i.imgur.com/WhO4cco.jpg > >>> https://i.imgur.com/uBCkv5G.png > >> It resembles, although doesn't match, the AST Six-Pack. > >> But the AST Six-pack h

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-15 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
https://i.imgur.com/WhO4cco.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uBCkv5G.png It resembles, although doesn't match, the AST Six-Pack. But the AST Six-pack had a clock circuit. On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: Isn't the 24-pin DIP part MM58167? shown in the images referenced above a RTC chip?

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-15 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
Good point, Fred. My frame of reference was the AT, which is the machine for which I had to hunt down the software. On 10/15/20, 8:28 PM, "cctalk on behalf of Fred Cisin via cctalk" wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, Richard Cini via cctalk wrote: > Well, it looks like one of those memory/m

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-15 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Thu, Oct 15, 2020, 5:24 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, Sean Ellis via cctalk wrote: > > I got this (currently exploded) mystery RAM, RTC, and I/O board out of > > a dead Sanyo luggable the other night, and once I replace the burned > > up tantalums I'd like to put it in

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-15 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, Richard Cini via cctalk wrote: Well, it looks like one of those memory/multi-IO/clock boards like the AST RAMPACK+. I would take a look at this site (which you might already know): https://stason.org/TULARC/pc/memory-cards/index.html When I was looking for jumpers, etc., for

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-15 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 15 Oct 2020, Sean Ellis via cctalk wrote: I got this (currently exploded) mystery RAM, RTC, and I/O board out of a dead Sanyo luggable the other night, and once I replace the burned up tantalums I'd like to put it in my 5150 so I can get a full 640k of RAM. Question is, does anyone know w

Re: Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-15 Thread Richard Cini via cctalk
Well, it looks like one of those memory/multi-IO/clock boards like the AST RAMPACK+. I would take a look at this site (which you might already know): https://stason.org/TULARC/pc/memory-cards/index.html When I was looking for jumpers, etc., for both the AboveBoard AT and BOCARAM I have, I start

Identifying a Mystery ISA Card

2020-10-15 Thread Sean Ellis via cctalk
Hey all, I got this (currently exploded) mystery RAM, RTC, and I/O board out of a dead Sanyo luggable the other night, and once I replace the burned up tantalums I'd like to put it in my 5150 so I can get a full 640k of RAM. Question is, does anyone know what this board is? It's a completely anon

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-13 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Zane Healy wrote: > > > On Oct 13, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk > > wrote: > > > > On 13/10/17 07:17, Holm Tiffe wrote: > >> > >> I meant that brick: > >> http://www.tiffe.de/Robotron/PDP-VAX/VAX/rtVAX300-internal-3.jpg > >> http://www.tiffe.de/Robotron/PDP-VAX/VAX/rtVAX300-in

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-13 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Oct 13, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk > wrote: > > On 13/10/17 07:17, Holm Tiffe wrote: >> >> I meant that brick: >> http://www.tiffe.de/Robotron/PDP-VAX/VAX/rtVAX300-internal-3.jpg >> http://www.tiffe.de/Robotron/PDP-VAX/VAX/rtVAX300-internal-1.jpg >> http://www.tiffe.de/R

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-13 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Antonio Carlini wrote: > On 13/10/17 07:17, Holm Tiffe wrote: > > > > I meant that brick: > > http://www.tiffe.de/Robotron/PDP-VAX/VAX/rtVAX300-internal-3.jpg > > http://www.tiffe.de/Robotron/PDP-VAX/VAX/rtVAX300-internal-1.jpg > > http://www.tiffe.de/Robotron/PDP-VAX/VAX/rtVAX300-internal-12jpg >

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-13 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 13/10/17 07:17, Holm Tiffe wrote: I meant that brick: http://www.tiffe.de/Robotron/PDP-VAX/VAX/rtVAX300-internal-3.jpg http://www.tiffe.de/Robotron/PDP-VAX/VAX/rtVAX300-internal-1.jpg http://www.tiffe.de/Robotron/PDP-VAX/VAX/rtVAX300-internal-12jpg on those boards: http://www.tiffe.de/Robo

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-12 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > On 12/10/17 21:10, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote: > > This thread is becoming a little confusing. The VAXstation II/RC was a > VAXstation II in a pedestal enclosure > and differed from a normal VAXstation II in only one way: some of the > backplane slots had gl

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-12 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 12/10/17 21:10, Holm Tiffe via cctalk wrote: This thread is becoming a little confusing. The VAXstation II/RC was a VAXstation II in a pedestal enclosure and differed from a normal VAXstation II in only one way: some of the backplane slots had glue in them. (OK, two ways, since apparently DE

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-12 Thread Holm Tiffe via cctalk
Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 10/11/2017 01:51 AM, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On 10/10/2017 12:51, allison via cctalk wrote: > >> Memory says: it was MICROVAX/RT and the cpu had a reduced instruction > >> set and was used with ELN/PASCAL. IT was a reduced capability >

RE: A Mystery

2017-10-11 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> >Memory says: it was MICROVAX/RT and the cpu had a reduced instruction > >set and was used with ELN/PASCAL. IT was a reduced capability machine. > > You¹re thinking of the rtVAX, which was a different product; the rtVAX > 1000 was a MicroVAX II, but without memory managent. It could not run VMS

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-11 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 10/11/2017 01:51 AM, Steven M Jones via cctalk wrote: On 10/10/2017 12:51, allison via cctalk wrote: Memory says: it was MICROVAX/RT and the cpu had a reduced instruction set and was used with ELN/PASCAL. IT was a reduced capability machine. As I recollect it used the same KA630/M7606,

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-11 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 10, 2017, at 3:51 PM, allison via cctalk wrote: > > Memory says: it was MICROVAX/RT and the cpu had a reduced instruction set and > was used with > ELN/PASCAL. IT was a reduced capability machine. Microvaxen in general have reduced instruction sets, as specifically sanctioned by lat

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-11 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven via cctalk
On 10/10/17, 9:51 PM, "cctech on behalf of allison via cctech" wrote: > > >On 10/10/17 3:17 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: >> On 10/10/17 14:26, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: >>> It's a VAXstation II/RC backplane, it was sold cheaper and crippled >>> by DEC to prevent adding more cards to

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-10 Thread Steven M Jones via cctalk
On 10/10/2017 12:17, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: > > The /RC was (apparently) for "Reduced Connectivity" or some such. The RC stood for Restricted Configuration. (I didn't remember it correctly either.) https://books.google.com/books?id=Sr4cRFxEX7QC&lpg=PA15&ots=5XAty8lkUd&dq=VAXstation%

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-10 Thread allison via cctalk
On 10/10/17 3:17 PM, Antonio Carlini via cctalk wrote: On 10/10/17 14:26, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: It's a VAXstation II/RC backplane, it was sold cheaper and crippled by DEC to prevent adding more cards to it.  That was my first VAX, and I think I still have mine. Zane The /RC was (ap

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-10 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
i aparently would put pennys in the floppy drivers of my parents rainbow 100 when i was a kid for some reason On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Chris Elmquist via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Same kid that put oatmeal in the VCR? > > https://youtu.be/25abPjKr06U > > > On October 10, 20

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-10 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
Same kid that put oatmeal in the VCR? https://youtu.be/25abPjKr06U On October 10, 2017 8:07:47 AM CDT, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote: >I have in my possession a back plane from a BA23. > >Somebody has put glue in the last three slots. > >Can anybody explain that? > >Rod -- Chris Elmquist

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-10 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 10/10/17 14:26, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: It's a VAXstation II/RC backplane, it was sold cheaper and crippled by DEC to prevent adding more cards to it. That was my first VAX, and I think I still have mine. Zane The /RC was (apparently) for "Reduced Connectivity" or some such. The sm

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-10 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
It's a VAXstation II/RC backplane, it was sold cheaper and crippled by DEC to prevent adding more cards to it. That was my first VAX, and I think I still have mine. Zane > On Oct 10, 2017, at 6:07 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk > wrote: > > I have in my possession a back plane from a BA23. >

Re: A Mystery

2017-10-10 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 6:07 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I have in my possession a back plane from a BA23. > Somebody has put glue in the last three slots. > Can anybody explain that? DEC sold a lower-priced, limited expansion MicroVAX II/RC, and rather than ac

A Mystery

2017-10-10 Thread Rod Smallwood via cctalk
I have in my possession a back plane from a BA23. Somebody has put glue in the last three slots. Can anybody explain that? Rod -- Wanted one pdp-8/i rocker switch leaver to copy.