Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-19 Thread Klemens Krause
On Fri, 18 Mar 2016, Brent Hilpert wrote: I have two items which use 4004 procs, one is a Prolog M900B E/PROM programmer ca. 1979. The manual includes the firmware source. (Somewhat bizarrely, it's typed/printed onto coding forms.) Here are the first two pages (photos, not scanned). We

Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-19 Thread Kyle Owen
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:43 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > > Unfortunately I do not, but I've recently become interested in such > things, as I have received from a friend's estate an old board from an > embedded system (possibly a cash register) which has a 4040 CPU. > Photos here:

Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-19 Thread dwight
I find it interesting that most applications seem to use a small amount of RAM but a lot of ROM. When the 4004 was designed, it had the extra pins assigned to select more banks of RAM instead of ROM. By the 4040 time they added more ROM select controls. I don't think I've ever seen all possible

Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-19 Thread dwight
nt: Saturday, March 19, 2016 11:40 AM To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040 -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brent Hilpert Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:41 AM To: Genera

Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-19 Thread dwight
f Eric Smith <space...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 1:23 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040 On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:18 PM, dwight <dkel...@hotmail.com> wrote: > The 4289 can be used for RAM with th

Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-19 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2016-Mar-17, at 10:11 PM, dwight wrote: > Also, I've found a source for 5.185MHz crystals. > ACE Components has some. They are in San Jose, on Oakland Rd. > Dwight I have two items which use 4004 procs, one is a Prolog M900B E/PROM programmer ca. 1979. The manual includes the firmware

RE: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-19 Thread Paul Birkel
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Brent Hilpert Sent: Friday, March 18, 2016 5:41 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040 . I had a failed 4201 chip (clock gen

Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-19 Thread Eric Smith
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 10:54 PM, dwight wrote: > I've been scanning the web in search of any code listings for these > processors. [...] > Does anyone have a stash of paper tapes or listings? Unfortunately I do not, but I've recently become interested in such things, as I

Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-19 Thread dwight
com> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2016 9:19 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040 On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Kyle Owen <kylevo...@gmail.com> wrote: > Wow, an engineering sample 4040. Very nice. Highly sought

Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-19 Thread Eric Smith
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 9:04 AM, Kyle Owen wrote: > Wow, an engineering sample 4040. Very nice. Highly sought after by those > CPU collectors out there. I noticed that it was an engineering sample, but hadn't really thought about that making it more valuable to collectors.

Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-19 Thread Chris Elmquist
On Thursday (03/17/2016 at 10:04AM -0500), Kyle Owen wrote: > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:43 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > > > > Unfortunately I do not, but I've recently become interested in such > > things, as I have received from a friend's estate an old board from an > > embedded

Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-19 Thread Eric Smith
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 1:18 PM, dwight wrote: > The 4289 can be used for RAM with the 4040, using the WPM and RPM. It can be > used > on the 4004 but it is limited to WPM only. I know about that; what I was asking about was whether the 4289 (or 4008/4009) could replace

Re: Code listings for the I4004 or I4040

2016-03-18 Thread Kyle Owen
On Mar 18, 2016 9:15 AM, "dwight" wrote: > > Also, you see most applications using 1702s instead of 4001 > or 4308. I've never seen a 4308 in the wild. I've seen one 4308 in the wild: in a later generation ARC RT-485A NAV/COM radio. The earlier ones just use four 4001s.