Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 03:51:14PM -0300, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: > There are a lot of people who would like to buy people's votes It's a good thing this does not happen in any other countries . :-) mcl

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

On 2015-10-12 2:51 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: Paul Koning wrote on Sat, 10 Oct 2015 11:44:58 -0400: On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: [noticed voter ID terminal had cable to voting machines!] That's not the real problem. Indeed, not *the* problem but just *a*

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

> On Oct 12, 2015, at 2:51 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: > > Paul Koning wrote on Sat, 10 Oct 2015 11:44:58 -0400: > ... >> The real problem is that you had no way to be sure, no way to verify, >> that the machine was recording your vote and would accurately report >> it

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

Paul Koning wrote on Sat, 10 Oct 2015 11:44:58 -0400: > > On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: > > [noticed voter ID terminal had cable to voting machines!] > > That's not the real problem. Indeed, not *the* problem but just *a* problem I noticed while still in line to get

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

On 10/10/2015 10:44 AM, Paul Koning wrote: That's not the real problem. The real problem is that you had no way to be sure, no way to verify, that the machine was recording your vote and would accurately report it later. It might just as easily report numbers that someone had told it to

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

> On Oct 9, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. wrote: > > John Robertson asked: >>> After the fiasco about the Deibold machines changing votes during the >>> Bush election of 2000, Brazil opted for them? > > To which Alexandre Souza replied: >>Yep. Welcome to the

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

John Robertson asked: > >After the fiasco about the Deibold machines changing votes during the > >Bush election of 2000, Brazil opted for them? To which Alexandre Souza replied: > Yep. Welcome to the land of the stupid. Ok, I think we need some facts, here. Note that from the very first

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

On 10/09/2015 07:38 AM, Paul Koning wrote: Very convenient for those who run the government that runs the election process. In the state where I live the setup (by law, as I recall) is a nice hybrid. Paper (mark sense) ballots, scanned by machine. But anyone can look at a ballot and see what

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

On 10/09/2015 09:38 AM, Paul Koning wrote: Very convenient for those who run the government that runs the election process. In the state where I live the setup (by law, as I recall) is a nice hybrid. Paper (mark sense) ballots, scanned by machine. But anyone can look at a ballot and see

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

tor 2015-10-08 klockan 16:48 -0700 skrev Chuck Guzis: > On 10/08/2015 01:44 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: > > Unfortunately SVT Öppet Arkiv is not available to anyone outside > > Sweden, which is a pity. A great source. > > > > This interest for computers and election vigils come from the fact > > that

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

lucky you. In Brazil we use vote machines made by diebold, which are as weak in security as a carton box. And no independent entity can ressearch its failures. 2015-10-09 8:24 GMT-03:00 Stefan Skoglund (lokal användare) < a13st...@student.his.se>: > tor 2015-10-08 klockan 16:48 -0700 skrev Chuck

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

> On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:50 AM, Alexandre Souza > wrote: > > lucky you. In Brazil we use vote machines made by diebold, which are as > weak in security as a carton box. And no independent entity can ressearch > its failures. Very convenient for those who run the

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

On 10/09/2015 4:50 AM, Alexandre Souza wrote: lucky you. In Brazil we use vote machines made by diebold, which are as weak in security as a carton box. And no independent entity can ressearch its failures. After the fiasco about the Deibold machines changing votes during the Bush election of

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

After the fiasco about the Deibold machines changing votes during the Bush election of 2000, Brazil opted for them? Yep. Welcome to the land of the stupid.

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Alexandre Souza < alexandre.tabaj...@gmail.com> wrote: > After the fiasco about the Deibold machines changing votes during the Bush >> election of 2000, Brazil opted for them? >> > >Yep. Welcome to the land of the stupid. > The county I live in has paper

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

Forgive the question, but what is an "election vigil"? Just people paying attention to the tallying at night after voting has closed?

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

On 2015-10-09 2:06 PM, Eric Christopherson wrote: Forgive the question, but what is an "election vigil"? Just people paying attention to the tallying at night after voting has closed? Usually all day. It's a big deal for TV. --Toby

Re: Computers in Election Vigils - take two

On 10/08/2015 01:44 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: Unfortunately SVT Öppet Arkiv is not available to anyone outside Sweden, which is a pity. A great source. This interest for computers and election vigils come from the fact that I had a email conversation with a person that was involved when DEC won

Computers in Election Vigils - take two

Unfortunately SVT Öppet Arkiv is not available to anyone outside Sweden, which is a pity. A great source. This interest for computers and election vigils come from the fact that I had a email conversation with a person that was involved when DEC won the contract to for the election in 1976 in