Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2018-10-22 Thread Erik Baigar via cctalk
Hi Bill, thanks for your reply. It would be cool to see this brochure - can you put it on a scanner? So you did not work with those yourself? Thanks again, Erik. Am 22. Oktober 2018 08:38:14 GMT-06:00 schrieb Bill Degnan : >While we are on the subject of Rolm I was curious and found in my docs

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2018-10-22 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
While we are on the subject of Rolm I was curious and found in my docs library a Rolm 1601 Sales brochure with some tech info/parts/prices. Heavy duty machines for sure. Bill On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 2:25 PM Erik Baigar via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Hi Paul, thanks for your

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2018-10-21 Thread Erik Baigar via cctalk
Hi Tom, thanks for getting in touch. I got some hardware and documentation from PWA as they wanted to get rid of all the small portion which remained. I focused on the 16 bit machines so I have 1602 (forwarded 1602b to a colleague) and a mse14. All restored to working condition. With two

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2018-10-21 Thread Erik Baigar via cctalk
Hi Paul, thanks for your reply - good to see that there are still guys out there who worked with this heavy iron. So you have been in the UK while working with the Rolm? I guess it was a 1602B or later and pesumably some airborne early warning stuff? Best wishes, Erik. Am 21. Oktober 2018

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2018-10-21 Thread Paul Anderson via cctalk
I was at the DG factory school at Southbourgh in 76 or 77, and worked on a ROLM NOVA while at RAF Chicksands in the late 70s. Unfortunately, my EX through out all of the manuals, prints, etc along with a complete set of SAGE (ANFSQ-7) docs. Paul On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 3:38 AM Thomas Hollowell

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2018-10-21 Thread Thomas Hollowell via cctalk
Hi Eric, My name is Tom Hollowell. I took the US support of Rolm in 1998. PWA assumed the international. I noticed that you have some ROLM hardware. I may be interested in finding out what you have. Let me know, Thanks, Tom Sent from my iPhone

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

2016-05-11 Thread dwight
le <j...@jwsss.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:44:32 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Data General Nova Star Trek On 4/7/2016 1:07 PM, jwsmobile wrote: > A friend has a large set of paper tape which seems to be from a DG > User group (not sure about that

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

2016-05-11 Thread jwsmobile
On 4/7/2016 1:07 PM, jwsmobile wrote: A friend has a large set of paper tape which seems to be from a DG User group (not sure about that, but label on box sort of implies that). Thanks to Erik Baigar, I have gotten his paper tape reader and have made one pass on reading the tapes. The

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-05 Thread Erik Baigar
On Thu, 5 May 2016, Paul Koning wrote: [snip] displays, i.e., ones with analog video) that drastically reduces the emissions from the video signal. It was created by Markus Kuhn and Ross Anderson at U. Cambridge. https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/emsec/softtempest-faq.html Quite

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-05 Thread Paul Koning
> On May 5, 2016, at 4:53 AM, Erik Baigar wrote: > > > > On Tue, 3 May 2016, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >> A set of standards for allowed levels of emissions (in particular, >> electro-magnetic radiation) from communication/computing gear, intended to >> prevent listening to the

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-05 Thread Erik Baigar
On Tue, 3 May 2016, Noel Chiappa wrote: A set of standards for allowed levels of emissions (in particular, electro-magnetic radiation) from communication/computing gear, intended to prevent listening to the activity of that gear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(codename) Thanks,

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-05 Thread Erik Baigar
Google JETDS. It will tell all. Thanks - that is the perfect link. There is some information on the AN/AYK-14, an airborne computer, on the web... On May 3, 2016 4:35 PM, "Erik Baigar" wrote: IIRC we sold a bunch of 1666Bs to the US Navy in YUK/something

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-04 Thread Peter Coghlan
Paul Koning wrote: > > > On May 3, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > > > ... The system has been modified over time, with some types (e.g. > > carrier pigeon -B-) dropped > > But then where does that leave RFC 1149 compliant networks? > > paul > Up in

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-04 Thread Paul Koning
> On May 3, 2016, at 5:07 PM, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > ... The system has been modified over time, with some types (e.g. > carrier pigeon -B-) dropped But then where does that leave RFC 1149 compliant networks? paul

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-04 Thread Pete Lancashire
... The system has been modified over time, with some types (e.g. carrier pigeon -B-) dropped JETDS is one of the few things that have survived, although one had to use their imagination on a few things. On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:37 PM, William Donzelli wrote: > Google

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-03 Thread Erik Baigar
On Tue, 3 May 2016, Christian Kennedy wrote: [snip] A 1602B can hold 64kW of memory (only accessible via a banking function proprietary to Rolm, so not usable e.g. for RDOS). I thought the 16xx did it the same way Keronix and DCC did it -- by limiting indirection to one level and then

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-03 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Erik Baigar >> as was coming up with something that could be both EMP-survivable and >> TEMPEST-worthy. > TEMPEST? A set of standards for allowed levels of emissions (in particular, electro-magnetic radiation) from communication/computing gear, intended to prevent

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-03 Thread Erik Baigar
On Tue, 3 May 2016, Christian Kennedy wrote: On 5/3/16 12:14, William Donzelli wrote: [ snip ] (and also not so freaking heavy!). Yes, these are extremely heavy - the 1602 with the additional 24kW memory extension can only be transported over larger distances using a barrow. It is not

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-03 Thread William Donzelli
Google JETDS. It will tell all. -- Will On May 3, 2016 4:35 PM, "Erik Baigar" wrote: > > IIRC we sold a bunch of 1666Bs to the US Navy in YUK/something >>> nomenclature). >>> >> >> 1666s are known as AN/UYK-64. >> > > Yes and the 1602 was the AN/UYK-19. > > land and ship

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-03 Thread Erik Baigar
IIRC we sold a bunch of 1666Bs to the US Navy in YUK/something nomenclature). 1666s are known as AN/UYK-64. Yes and the 1602 was the AN/UYK-19. land and ship installations, thus the "U". If they were primarily for aircraft installations, they would have been "AN/A**" and not "AN/U**" (and

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-03 Thread Christian Kennedy
On 5/3/16 12:14, William Donzelli wrote: > Nitpick: the Rolm 1600s are not really avionics machines, although > certainly quite a lot were put in aircraft. The military put them on > land and ship installations, thus the "U". If they were primarily for > aircraft installations, they would have

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-03 Thread William Donzelli
> IIRC we sold a bunch of 1666Bs to the US Navy in YUK/something > nomenclature). 1666s are known as AN/UYK-64. Nitpick: the Rolm 1600s are not really avionics machines, although certainly quite a lot were put in aircraft. The military put them on land and ship installations, thus the "U". If

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-03 Thread Erik Baigar
Hi Bob, many thanks for your email and for sharing the photos. Obviously the 1603 has a different processor card set (5604 as can be seen from your photographs). So this is quite interesting as it shows, that the chronology was 1602 (9 PCB processor), 1603 (5604, 4 PCB procrssor), 1602B (5605,

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-03 Thread Erik Baigar
Hi Chris, thanks for the additional explanations. in the hardware lab, 99.999% of ARTS/32 (and all of the Marvin) development took place on commercial DG hardware -- MV/8000s for ARTS/32, MV/1s for Marvin (with MV/4000s used as target machines). OK, that is helpful information -

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-02 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
On 4/27/2016 10:12 PM, Erik Baigar wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, Bob Rosenbloom wrote: I have my Rolm 1603 working. No peripherals hooked to it, but you can toggle in stuff from the front panel. http://dvq.com/oldcomp/photos2/1k/rolm1603_f.jpg Very cool, Bob - we have been in touch seom

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-01 Thread Christian Kennedy
On 5/1/16 04:10, Erik Baigar wrote: > sorry, but there emerged more questions from my side ;-) It's a trip down memory lane ;) > > On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Christian Kennedy wrote: > >> Hawk, but not the odd S/140 and MV/8000 punches) and software (ARTS, >> ARTS/32) were ROLM designs. > > I

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-01 Thread Christian Kennedy
On 4/30/16 07:18, Erik Baigar wrote: > That sounds very interesting - although I do not know much about the > Hawk/32 it sounds to be a very interesting machine. It was quite advanced at the time, thanks in no small part to the efforts of Kamran Malik, Michael (Farbod) Raam and others. > I

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-05-01 Thread Erik Baigar
Hi Chris, sorry, but there emerged more questions from my side ;-) On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Christian Kennedy wrote: Hawk, but not the odd S/140 and MV/8000 punches) and software (ARTS, ARTS/32) were ROLM designs. I only know ARTS from ads being sold on eBay - this is some form od Ada

RE: Vaisala SPT11A reader (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-30 Thread Paul Birkel
You bet. Thank you and good health! -Original Message- From: Erik Baigar [mailto:e...@baigar.de] Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2016 9:34 AM To: Paul Birkel Cc: jwsm...@jwsss.com; cctalk@classiccmp.org; sherman...@att.net Subject: RE: Vaisala SPT11A reader (was Data General Nova Star Trek

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-30 Thread Erik Baigar
Many thanks Chris for all the interesting recollections! On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Christian Kennedy wrote: internally was utterly unrelated to AOS/VS; it was the software effort that matched the Hawk/32 hardware effort (software was downstairs on the That sounds very interesting - although I do

RE: Vaisala SPT11A reader (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-30 Thread Erik Baigar
, April 26, 2016 5:33 AM To: Paul Birkel Cc: jwsm...@jwsss.com; cctalk@classiccmp.org; sherman...@att.net Subject: Vaisala SPT11A reader (was Data General Nova Star Trek) Dear Paul, thanks for your email - I acquired the reader several years ago and did quite a lot of experiments to figure out how

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-30 Thread Christian Kennedy
On 4/29/16 01:08, Erik Baigar wrote: > > > On Thu, 28 Apr 2016, Christian Kennedy wrote: > >> I was a staff engineer at ROLM MSC between '82 - '86. By that time by >> any reasonable measure MSC and telecomm were two utterly different >> companies that happened to have common parentage;

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-29 Thread Charles Anthony
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 10:45 PM, Sean Caron wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Apr 2016, Christian Kennedy wrote: > >> >> >> IIRC the most interesting thing about the CBX was that it could do so >> much with so little hardware (relative to other switches of the time) >> thanks to TDM

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-29 Thread Erik Baigar
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016, Christian Kennedy wrote: I was a staff engineer at ROLM MSC between '82 - '86. By that time by any reasonable measure MSC and telecomm were two utterly different companies that happened to have common parentage; technology cross-over [Another snip] OK, so you are an

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-29 Thread Erik Baigar
Many thanks for the explanations, so your SCBX is bigger than I thought ;-) You hobby of collecting phones and having the SCBX perfectly match and keep us up to date if you receive the first call from an external paricipant. ;-) while designing a media gateway to sit on the ROLMbus would be

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-28 Thread Christian Kennedy
On 4/28/16 17:45, Sean Caron wrote: [big snip] > I find the design of the CBX really interesting. IMO, their appearance > belies that ROLM was a computer vendor first a a phone equipment maker > second. Not in a perjorative sense, just stylistically. Comparing them > against boards from

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-28 Thread Sean Caron
On Thu, 28 Apr 2016, Erik Baigar wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, Sean Caron wrote: I don't have any ROLM computers (not that I wouldn't love one) but I am proud to say that I have a complete ROLM SCBX 8000. I've tried to take some pictures and compile some information on my personal site:

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Vulcan Avionics)

2016-04-27 Thread Erik Baigar
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Jon Elson wrote: the complete electronics suite from a Vulcan bomber! The Rochester Avionics Archives are digitizing company videos from

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-27 Thread Erik Baigar
On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, Sean Caron wrote: I don't have any ROLM computers (not that I wouldn't love one) but I am proud to say that I have a complete ROLM SCBX 8000. I've tried to take some pictures and compile some information on my personal site:

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-27 Thread Erik Baigar
On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, Bob Rosenbloom wrote: I have my Rolm 1603 working. No peripherals hooked to it, but you can toggle in stuff from the front panel. http://dvq.com/oldcomp/photos2/1k/rolm1603_f.jpg Very cool, Bob - we have been in touch seom years ago and great, that your machine is still

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-27 Thread william degnan
> > >> I have a sales / tech details guide 1970 Rolm 1601 "ReggedNova" base > system, option cards, instructions, etc. > -- > > > > Sorry I mean "RuggedNova"

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-27 Thread william degnan
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:10 PM, Curious Marc wrote: > Nice! > Marc > > I have my Rolm 1603 working. No peripherals hooked to it, but you can > toggle in stuff from the front panel. > http://dvq.com/oldcomp/photos2/1k/rolm1603_f.jpg > > Bob > > > I have a sales / tech

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-27 Thread Curious Marc
Nice! Marc I have my Rolm 1603 working. No peripherals hooked to it, but you can toggle in stuff from the front panel. http://dvq.com/oldcomp/photos2/1k/rolm1603_f.jpg Bob

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-27 Thread Sean Caron
On Wed, 27 Apr 2016, Bob Rosenbloom wrote: On 4/26/2016 11:23 PM, Erik Baigar wrote: Well - "are out there" I agree, but do you know of any PRIVATELY owned and ALIVE machines? There is lot of PDP* discussion here, but it is very hard to get in touch with people being working on Rolm stuff.

Re: Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-27 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
On 4/26/2016 11:23 PM, Erik Baigar wrote: Well - "are out there" I agree, but do you know of any PRIVATELY owned and ALIVE machines? There is lot of PDP* discussion here, but it is very hard to get in touch with people being working on Rolm stuff. Of course: In contrast to a non-working PDP8

RE: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-27 Thread tony duell
> European tubes are easy to evaluate in that respect because the letter codes > designate what's inside. I remember the EABC80 (not sure that's the correct EABC80 _is_ the correct number. It is a triple diode triode. The number decodes as follows : E : 6.3V heater A : diode B : double

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-27 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 27, 2016, at 12:49 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > > On 04/26/2016 09:47 PM, William Donzelli wrote: >>> What was the highest level of integration in a single envelope? >> Perhaps Selectrons. >> >> > There were also "Compactrons", 12-pin tubes kind of extending the 7-

Rolm Computers: 1602, 1602A, 1602B, 1666, MSExx (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-27 Thread Erik Baigar
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, William Donzelli wrote: On the world there is probably only my 12 bit freely programmable Elliott 900 still alive, I know of as little as 6 Rolms (privately owned, all variants) and less than 5 of the inertial navigators. If you are talking about the various Rolm 1600

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 04/26/2016 09:49 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > There were also "Compactrons", 12-pin tubes kind of extending the 7- > and 9-pin submini tubes. Some of them had at least 3 elements in one > envelope. I remember them and used them. In particular, I remember an AF amplifier with push-pull beam output

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 04/26/2016 07:47 PM, William Donzelli wrote: >> What was the highest level of integration in a single envelope? > > Perhaps Selectrons. EBAM?

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Jon Elson
On 04/26/2016 12:14 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Jon Elson wrote: Erik is not the only one. Check out Tatiana van Vark. Excellent! I've actually wondered who in the world might do something like this. Now I know. Like I said, what a cool hobby. Here's a picture of what is

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread William Donzelli
There were a few others, as well as some RF devices with the tuned parts inside the bulb. There were also some oddball types made for weather balloon use that had the whole transmitter circuit as one unit. -- Will On Apr 26, 2016 6:30 PM, "Chuck Guzis" wrote: On 04/26/2016

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread William Donzelli
> On the world there is probably only my 12 bit freely programmable > Elliott 900 still alive, I know of as little as 6 Rolms (privately > owned, all variants) and less than 5 of the inertial navigators. If you are talking about the various Rolm 1600 series machines - there are a whole lot more

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 04/26/2016 12:40 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > This sort of stuff doesn't seem to be all that common; I haven't seen > it elsewhere. Multiple tubes, like dual triodes or triode/heptodes > are pretty common, but those are just the active part. The only "passive in the tube" examples I can think of

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Erik Baigar
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Noel Chiappa wrote: I am absolutely, completely, blown away. This has got to be one of the most amazing projects I have ever come across. I'm utterly awed by the work you did to reverse engineer this thing. Everyone should check out this site - especially the detailed

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 26, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > On 04/26/2016 10:49 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > >> That tube is interesting: it's the world's first integrated circuit. >> Yes, a hollow state integrated circuit. I describe it that way >> because it is a complete subsystem

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 04/26/2016 10:49 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > That tube is interesting: it's the world's first integrated circuit. > Yes, a hollow state integrated circuit. I describe it that way > because it is a complete subsystem (in this case, a complete 3 stage > audio amplifier) rather than just something

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Erik Baigar > I wanted to have a computer using core memory and so I bought a black > box from the Tornado aircraft which contained core. This started a 10 > year yourney of analyzing it, decyphering the command set and building > tools to program it. ... I have a

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Erik Baigar
Hi Jim, after another test using a different PC and paper tape, the paper tape reader is en route to you. I declared it as "paper tape reader for hobby use, value USD10" and that it will "return within 4 weeks". Hopefully this will prevent you from having to get into toruble with the custom

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Erik Baigar
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Jon Elson wrote: problems with her SO freaking out, but who knows, perhaps she married an OCD butler. It's tough to escape the laws of the universe sometimes. :-) And I'd be interested in whether she had some help in maintaining all this outstanding equipment ;-) For

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Erik Baigar
Erik is not the only one. Check out Tatiana van Vark. Here's a picture of what is in her DINING ROOM, the complete electronics suite from a Vulcan bomber! Yes, Tatiana is the queen of collecting this kind of stuff and she has an excellent page! There's also a video of her picking up a

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Erik Baigar
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Swift Griggs wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Erik Baigar wrote: Apart from Rolm mil-spec computers, my hobby is airborne vintage avionics and I know that Ferranti tested their intertial navigations systems for aircraft also by torturing them in a car driving around Edinburgh

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 26, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: > ... > Just about everything on that page is drool-worthy or cool in some extreme > way. That crytograph does indeed rock and "The Inertial Navigator Platform" > looks like an artifact from The 5th Element. What's more

Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Paul Koning wrote: > From the looks of other items on her website, that collection of airplane > gear is the *least* strange thing she has. Holy smokes I just checked and you are right! > Stuff like an encryption machine that isn't exactly an Enigma, but based > on the

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 26, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Jon Elson wrote: >> Erik is not the only one. Check out Tatiana van Vark. > > Excellent! I've actually wondered who in the world might do something like > this. Now I know. Like I said, what

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Jon Elson wrote: > Erik is not the only one. Check out Tatiana van Vark. Excellent! I've actually wondered who in the world might do something like this. Now I know. Like I said, what a cool hobby. > Here's a picture of what is in her DINING ROOM, the complete

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Jon Elson
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Erik Baigar wrote: Apart from Rolm mil-spec computers, my hobby is airborne vintage avionics and I know that Ferranti tested their intertial navigations systems for aircraft also by torturing them in a car driving around Edinburgh in Scotland... Erik is not the only one.

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Erik Baigar wrote: > Apart from Rolm mil-spec computers, my hobby is airborne vintage avionics > and I know that Ferranti tested their intertial navigations systems for > aircraft also by torturing them in a car driving around Edinburgh in > Scotland... That is an interesting

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

2016-04-26 Thread Erik Baigar
Hi Sherman! On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Sherman Foy wrote: under the heading of d??j?? vu, if this unit is a Rockwell Collins mil hand paper tape puller, my old roommate ran the qualification tests on Hm, the reader is a Vaisala SPT11A and I searched the internet for readers from Rockwell Collins.

RE: Vaisala SPT11A reader (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-26 Thread Paul Birkel
; sherman...@att.net Subject: Vaisala SPT11A reader (was Data General Nova Star Trek) Dear Paul, thanks for your email - I acquired the reader several years ago and did quite a lot of experiments to figure out how to use it with the original firmware SPTS11, 2.02, 5289 but I never got an answer

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

2016-04-26 Thread Erik Baigar
Hi Jim, Dear Sherman, thanks for your email (and the address via PM). I will prepare the reader for shipping tomorrow. I will ship it with the power supply and the adapter-cable attached, so you can plug it directly into the PC. The supply is wide-range, so it will support 115VAC directly, but

Vaisala SPT11A reader (was Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-26 Thread Erik Baigar
lth to You and Yours! paul (from Maryland, USA) -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Erik Baigar Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 11:42 AM To: jim s; cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: Sherman Foy Subject: Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Hi Jim, regard

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

2016-04-25 Thread Sherman Foy
have discussed w/ Jim: I have a 240 Euro connector bench transformer meant for this.

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

2016-04-25 Thread Sherman Foy
under the heading of déjà vu, if this unit is a Rockwell Collins mil hand paper tape puller, my old roommate ran the qualification tests on the development of that system. That happened here in Santa Ana @ their Harbor & Warner facility. They drove around the parking lot in the bed of pickup

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

2016-04-25 Thread Erik Baigar
Hi Jim, regarding reading the StarTrek paper tapes I spent some time on the weekend to rework my SPT11A manual reader - I got this from an eBay auction and it was an accessory for some military receiver (probalby to read in some codes). It had a fimrwaere which refused to communicate with a

Re: Space Travel (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 05:33:43AM -0700, Charles Anthony wrote: > > http://www.chdickman.com/pdp8/spacewar/ built his own VC8/I for his PDP-8 > and runs the PDP-8 version of space war on it. He lists the IOT > instructions for the VC8/I; they are similar to the 338. Ohh, that looks very doable,

Re: Space Travel (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-08 Thread Charles Anthony
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 04:08:42PM -0700, Charles Anthony wrote: > > > > I have some code that does an X-11 emulation of the Atari Tempest vector > > graphics display; I'm thinking of wedging it into the simh PDP8 code

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

2016-04-07 Thread Erik Baigar
Hi Jim, short version: Yes, I can confirm existence of such a software and I'd be highly interested in a copy. Of course I can offer digitizing it ;-) longer version: I am preserving various Rolm (later Loral) 16 bit machines which are hardened, military machines

Re: Space Travel (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-07 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 04:08:42PM -0700, Charles Anthony wrote: > > I have some code that does an X-11 emulation of the Atari Tempest vector > graphics display; I'm thinking of wedging it into the simh PDP8 code to > emulate the 338 and PDP-1 displays. > That woyld be fun :) I could perhaps be

Re: Space Travel (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-07 Thread Charles Anthony
On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Swift Griggs wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > Star Trek was a quite common BASIC (game ?) program on at least the HP > 2000 > > time share systems, I've seen quite a few variations, on ran on RT-11. > > That reminds me

Space Travel (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek)

2016-04-07 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 7 Apr 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: > Star Trek was a quite common BASIC (game ?) program on at least the HP 2000 > time share systems, I've seen quite a few variations, on ran on RT-11. That reminds me of the "Space Travel" game/sim that Ken Thompson wrote for the first copy/iteration of

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

2016-04-07 Thread Pete Lancashire
Star Trek was a quite common BASIC (game ?) program on at least the HP 2000 time share systems, I've seen quite a few variations, on ran on RT-11. Be quite careful with the tape, the folds can be quite fragile depending on how and where the tape was stored. When I had my 'computer room' set up

Data General Nova Star Trek

2016-04-07 Thread jwsmobile
A friend has a large set of paper tape which seems to be from a DG User group (not sure about that, but label on box sort of implies that). The tape pile is fanfold about 10" across in a DG box specially made for such use. We hope to have a reader to digitize it soon, but wonder if anyone