Water Cooling and Hot Climates was RE: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-22 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Van Snyder via > cctalk > Sent: 22 June 2021 00:00 > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books > > On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 17:26 -0400, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > &

Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread Van Snyder via cctalk
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 18:55 -0500, Gavin Scott via cctalk wrote: > Oh yeah, that was like 12 years ago? I believe they had gotten the > 1620 CADET (“Can't Add, Doesn't Even Try”) running One of my colleagues, about fifty years ago, wanted to use the 1620 for telemetry processing. So he replaced th

Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 1:43 PM Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > For some (jprobably hallucinatory) reason, I thought there was a project > at CHM to replace the 1620 core stack with semiconductor memory. Guess > that never happened. Oh yeah, that was like 12 years ago? I believe they had gotten

Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 6/21/2021 4:00 PM, Van Snyder via cctalk wrote: I was once told that the most valuable guy in a Honeywell 6080 Multics shop was the plumber. No water cooling.

Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread Van Snyder via cctalk
On Mon, 2021-06-21 at 17:26 -0400, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: > > Of course, nowadays, the old R22 systems are being refilled with > > purified propane, called R290. Cheap, with better thermal properties > > than R22, but probably not legal when LCM picked up the 6500. > > When cleaning o

Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread Rich Alderson via cctalk
> Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 16:02:20 -0400 > From: Paul Koning via cctalk >> On Jun 21, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: >> On 6/21/21 11:53 AM, Paul Koning wrote: >>> Perhaps you were thinking about the CDC 6500 at the late lamented LCM? >>> That got some replacement stacks, which was an int

Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> When cleaning out a 3rd party CDC dealer quite a few years back, he > remarked that the CDC machines going way back all the way to the 800s > were fantastically unpicky about how they were cooled. So I just reread what I wrote, and see it is crap. What I meant is that CDC machines going back all

Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> Of course, nowadays, the old R22 systems are being refilled with > purified propane, called R290. Cheap, with better thermal properties > than R22, but probably not legal when LCM picked up the 6500. When cleaning out a 3rd party CDC dealer quite a few years back, he remarked that the CDC machi

Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/21/21 1:02 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > Some vague memory says Purdue. LCM actually got it running, which was an > interesting problem. It required recreating the inter-chassis cables (since > the original ones were cut as part of dismantling the machine) and restoring > the cooling system.

Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 21, 2021, at 3:52 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > On 6/21/21 11:53 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > >> Perhaps you were thinking about the CDC 6500 at the late lamented LCM? That >> got some replacement stacks, which was an interesting puzzle because the >> read data connection out of the memo

Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/21/21 11:53 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > Perhaps you were thinking about the CDC 6500 at the late lamented LCM? That > got some replacement stacks, which was an interesting puzzle because the read > data connection out of the memory modules is a differential analog signal > carrying the sense

Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jun 21, 2021, at 2:43 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 6/21/21 10:55 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> > memory. Nobody explained why that was a real problem. >> >> Core memory is fairly sensitive to temperature. In the case of the 1620, >> there is a heating system that

RE: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk On Behalf Of Chuck Guzis via > cctalk > Sent: 21 June 2021 19:43 > To: Paul Koning via cctalk > Subject: Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books > > On 6/21/21 10:55 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > > memory

Re: IBM 1620; was: Early Programming Books

2021-06-21 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 6/21/21 10:55 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > memory. Nobody explained why that was a real problem. > > Core memory is fairly sensitive to temperature. In the case of the 1620, > there is a heating system that brings the core memory box up to its operating > temperature, which is why it