On 4/25/2016 7:21 PM, Jerome H. Fine wrote:
>Paul Koning wrote:
On Apr 24, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Jerome H. Fine
wrote:
Kyle Owen wrote:
On a related note, a former DEC field engineer gave me this key (and
keychain). He thought it was a PDP-8 key at first, but it's not the
standard XX2247. It
>Paul Koning wrote:
On Apr 24, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Jerome H. Fine wrote:
Kyle Owen wrote:
On a related note, a former DEC field engineer gave me this key (and
keychain). He thought it was a PDP-8 key at first, but it's not the
standard XX2247. It says KBM1100...any ideas what this
> You were able to deduce that from the "GRB 2"? Is that authoritative?
> If so, I'd like to add it to the 11/05-10 page on the Computer
> History Wiki.
Yes, I looked up "GRB 2" in the Chicago codebook. The Chicago
designation for the blank is K5K.
De
> From: Dennis Boone
>> it says "Chicago Lock Co" and "GRB 2"
> Aha.
> Cut 215 on Ilco S1041T.
You were able to deduce that from the "GRB 2"? Is that authoritative? If so,
I'd like to add it to the 11/05-10 page on the Computer History Wiki.
Also, I have an original XX2065 (Data
> I have an original (which was used to make a ton of replicas for
> people a while back); it says "Chicago Lock Co" and "GRB 2". No idea
> what the latter means. The copies were made with Hillman Y11 and FR4
> blanks (both work, but one has to be trimmed a bit, length-wise).
Aha.
Cut 215 on
> From: Dennis Boone
> Haven't managed to id the 11/05 key yet.
I have an original (which was used to make a ton of replicas for people a
while back); it says "Chicago Lock Co" and "GRB 2". No idea what the latter
means. The copies were made with Hillman Y11 and FR4 blanks (both work, but
> On Apr 24, 2016, at 8:54 PM, Jerome H. Fine wrote:
>
> >Kyle Owen wrote:
>
>> On a related note, a former DEC field engineer gave me this key (and
>> keychain). He thought it was a PDP-8 key at first, but it's not the
>> standard XX2247. It says KBM1100...any ideas what this might go to?
>>
> All the H967's I've seen had non-ace keys for the back doors. Most
> (if not all, can't remember) of my H960's use non-ace keys for the
> back doors.
I believe the common back door key is a National C415A. Cut 12343 b-t
on an Ilco 1069N blank. These are also used in electrical panels, so
a
Tony wrote...
As far as I know DEC never used a key lock on their cabinet doors.
You might well need an allen key to remove the back of the rack cabinet, for
example.
All the H967's I've seen had non-ace keys for the back doors.
Most (if not all, can't remember) of my H960's use non-ace
> Just for curiosity, which Key codes were used for the PDP-11
> systems? I used to have some PDP-11 racks for RL02 drives
> with a Qbus PDP-11/23 inside and I thought I remembered that
> XX2247 was used on them, but I would just like to know for sure.
> Actually, the more I think about it, just
>Kyle Owen wrote:
On a related note, a former DEC field engineer gave me this key (and
keychain). He thought it was a PDP-8 key at first, but it's not the
standard XX2247. It says KBM1100...any ideas what this might go to?
http://imgur.com/a/4v8Hq
I have followed this thread, but have not bee
> On a related note, a former DEC field engineer gave me this key (and
> keychain). He thought it was a PDP-8 key at first, but it's not the
> standard XX2247. It says KBM1100...any ideas what this might go to?
VAXen were used in GE EDACS repeater controllers, so perhaps one of
those systems?
On a related note, a former DEC field engineer gave me this key (and
keychain). He thought it was a PDP-8 key at first, but it's not the
standard XX2247. It says KBM1100...any ideas what this might go to?
http://imgur.com/a/4v8Hq
Thanks,
Kyle
> What do you think of the Klom imitation of it?
Initial impressions of the Klom K-747 tubular key cutter
The Klom K-747 cutter is designed to cut Chicago ACE type tubular
keys, and the Fort equivalents. It is available in at least four
key barrel sizes, 7.0mm, 7.3mm, 7.5mm and 7.8mm. The "com
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From: "Paul Koning"
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts"
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: Keys - Non-Ace was RE: ACE Key codes (xx2247 etc.)
> On Apr 19, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Mike Stein wrote:
>
> I finally fo
> It's a little costly for the amount of need that we have. What do
> you think of the Klom imitation of it?
I've got one of the Klom imitations coming. Report to follow...
If it helps anyone, I can produce Chicago double-sided keys from code.
This sort of thing:
http://www.repeater-builder.
Also reference how you counted them, clockwise or counter clockwise.
There may be a standard, in a recent exercise with Jay West (who knows
more on this than I do) the locksmith we went to to have some of Jay's
measured keys made was used to people not recalling when they had the
codes that Fr
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Mike Stein wrote:
I finally found my micrometer; is there a cross-reference of pin # vs.
depth or just a list of standard depths for ACE keys somewhere?
Yes. Called a "depth and space reference" (different for manufacturer,
and sometimes blank)
5 years ago, we had a simi
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
Look here, http://www.hpcworld.com/mobile/km/pocketcutup/index.html, click
"See the manual", it's at the bottom of the first page.
Looks like a neat little machine. I don't have one (or any knowledge of
these devic
On Tue, 19 Apr 2016, Paul Koning wrote:
Look here, http://www.hpcworld.com/mobile/km/pocketcutup/index.html, click "See the
manual", it's at the bottom of the first page.
Looks like a neat little machine. I don't have one (or any knowledge of
these devices), but if I needed keys like that I'd
> On Apr 19, 2016, at 4:15 PM, Mike Stein wrote:
>
> I finally found my micrometer; is there a cross-reference of pin # vs. depth
> or just a list of standard depths for ACE keys somewhere?
Look here, http://www.hpcworld.com/mobile/km/pocketcutup/index.html, click "See
the manual", it's at th
I finally found my micrometer; is there a cross-reference of pin # vs. depth or
just a list of standard depths for ACE keys somewhere?
m
> On Feb 25, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Jay West wrote:
>
> But I did find there is apparently a service http://key.me where you take a
> picture of your key with their app, and they mail you a copy (or if there is
> a kiosk of theirs in your area, you can do it real time there).
Ooh! I can't wait to ge
Some municipalities have restrictions on it, ranging from no restrictions to
outright ban, or requiring the locksmith to keep on file the identity of who
requested a key, and/or "proof" of ownership of the lock (physically
bringing it in, letter on company letterhead, etc.)
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016,
Fred wrote...
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Some municipalities have restrictions on it, ranging from no restrictions to
outright ban, or requiring the locksmith to keep on file the identity of who
requested a key, and/or "proof" of ownership of the lock (physically
bringing it in, letter on company letterhead, etc.)
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016, Jay West wrote:
They must have some "internal representation" of a key such that a key (any
key, any size, including car keys that are those "grooves") can be stored
"digitally" and downloaded. I wonder if similar art exists such that we
could store "whatever is necessary" to
I'll put the list of ACE keys (and codes, as we get them) on a website on
the classiccmp server for posterity.
Actually, this whole thing came up in my brain due to tracking down keys for
a Pr1me machine (non-ace).
But I did find there is apparently a service http://key.me where you take a
pictu
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