On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 04:22:27PM -0400, Dave McGuire via cctalk wrote:
> I would posit that he does not have a museum; he has a collection
> and a wish. When and if that wish pans out, and I hope it does,
> then he will have a museum. But not before.
+1. That's a positive way to look at it.
> On Mar 18, 2022, at 3:15 PM, W2HX wrote:
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>> For a number of years they had on display the world's oldest broadcast
>> transmitter, an FM transmitter from 1919 invented in The Hague by Hanso
>> Idzerda.
>
> Interesting as that would have predated the invention of FM by Edwin Howard
>
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To: dave.g4...@gmail.com; cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: LSSM is chasing this, was Re: General Data? Computer
They might also get rid of stuff, not necessarily for an obvious reason. I sa
> On Mar 18, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Dave Wade G4UGM via cctalk
> wrote:
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> I missed a lot of this because g-mail decided to bounce some e-mails.
>
> I would like to make a couple of observations:-
>
> 1. Many real accredited museums have a smaller percentage of their artifacts
> on display
I missed a lot of this because g-mail decided to bounce some e-mails.
I would like to make a couple of observations:-
1. Many real accredited museums have a smaller percentage of their artifacts
on display than private collectors. In the UK both TNMOC and the Science
Museum Group have large
On 3/18/22 04:19, Joshua Rice wrote:
These are all valid concerns, especially since some collectors generally
have eyes bigger then their belly, wanting more machines than they have
the appropriate storage for. I fear i have been just as guilty (though i
generally keep anything of value
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Subject: Re: LSSM is chasing this, was Re: General Data? Computer
Equipment Auction - GSA As I've said privately today to three p
> On Mar 17, 2022, at 1:56 PM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
> wrote:
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> ...
> I mean what is a museum really? What about low attendence museums versus
> private collections that serve tons of people? Aren't museums private
> collections too?
Some museums are government establishments, but
On 3/17/22 17:27, P Gebhardt wrote:
> Ok, it hit $1200, we're out of the running. I hope these systems go
to a good home, and don't disappear into the black hole of a private
collection.
I think that next time, you should consider to rephrase this in a more
considerate way. There are
> Ok, it hit $1200, we're out of the running. I hope these systems go
> to a good home, and don't disappear into the black hole of a private
>
>collection.
>
I think that next time, you should consider to rephrase this in a more
considerate way. There are public museums on both sides of
> On Mar 17, 2022, at 4:22 PM, Dave McGuire via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> On 3/17/22 14:19, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
>>> In LSSM's case, it's a wholly-occupied 14,000 square foot commercial
>>> storefront building that nobody lives in, in a downtown shopping district,
>>> as
On 3/17/2022 10:56 AM, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
Our stuff is ALWAYS going out and getting played with.
This is great! I very much applaud you doing this. In a similar vein,
I am also trying to get to a point where I can share my very meager
"collection" with others who might
On 3/17/22 14:19, Ethan O'Toole via cctalk wrote:
In LSSM's case, it's a wholly-occupied 14,000 square foot commercial
storefront building that nobody lives in, in a downtown shopping
district, as distinguished from the typical private collection in a
garage, basement, etc.
Right, I know
In LSSM's case, it's a wholly-occupied 14,000 square foot commercial
storefront building that nobody lives in, in a downtown shopping district, as
distinguished from the typical private collection in a garage, basement, etc.
-Dave
Right, I know you have a real building and are
On 3/17/22 13:56, Ethan O'Toole wrote:
I interpreted "disappear into the black hole of a private collection"
as meaning "regrettably unavailable for viewing and/or use by anyone
but the collector". This has nothing to do with how well the systems
are preserved.
And while the particular choice
On 3/17/22 13:14, Jay Logue wrote:
If I'd known that opening a museum would be met wish such hostility,
from day one, I'd never have gone to the trouble.
>
Please don't say that. Now is the time to thicken the skin and persevere.
I appreciate your efforts, as do a lot of other people I
I interpreted "disappear into the black hole of a private collection" as
meaning "regrettably unavailable for viewing and/or use by anyone but the
collector". This has nothing to do with how well the systems are preserved.
And while the particular choice of words may be somewhat inflammatory
On 3/17/2022 9:20 AM, Dave McGuire via cctalk wrote:
If I'd known that opening a museum would be met wish such hostility,
from day one, I'd never have gone to the trouble.
Please don't say that. Now is the time to thicken the skin and persevere.
I appreciate your efforts, as do a lot of
I interpreted "disappear into the black hole of a private collection" as
meaning "regrettably unavailable for viewing and/or use by anyone but
the collector". This has nothing to do with how well the systems are
preserved.
And while the particular choice of words may be somewhat inflammatory
On 3/17/22 12:10, Jay Logue wrote:
I interpreted "disappear into the black hole of a private collection" as
meaning "regrettably unavailable for viewing and/or use by anyone but
the collector". This has nothing to do with how well the systems are
preserved.
Thank you Jay, that's the
On 3/17/22 09:30, Tom Hunter wrote:
Your following comment is offensive:
"I hope these systems go to a good home, and don't disappear into the
black hole of a private collection."
So sorry.
You equate private collections with black holes. I think on the contrary
many private collectors
> On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:30 AM, Tom Hunter via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> Dave,
>
> Your following comment is offensive:
>
> "I hope these systems go to a good home, and don't disappear into the black
> hole of a private collection."
>
> You equate private collections with black holes. I think on
Dave,
Your following comment is offensive:
"I hope these systems go to a good home, and don't disappear into the black
hole of a private collection."
You equate private collections with black holes. I think on the contrary
many private collectors do a better job at preserving old systems than
On 3/16/22 16:56, Dave McGuire via cctalk wrote:
The LSSM is very interested in this machine for public display. It would
complement the museum's collection of PDP-11s and other 16 bit machines.
By "very interested", Mark means "is actively pursuing". Some of our
donors are willing to
On 3/16/22 15:12, Mark Kahrs via cctalk wrote:
The LSSM is very interested in this machine for public display. It would
complement the museum's collection of PDP-11s and other 16 bit machines.
By "very interested", Mark means "is actively pursuing". Some of our
donors are willing to foot
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