Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Ian Finder > so just on the safe side we'll cover some Engineering for Poets (or > Programmers) ROFL! Noel

RE: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread tony duell
> My favorite low tech dummy load is the one my father came up with: a couple > of > resistors (carbon composite is best, carbon film or metal film will do), 1-2 > watt size, > in a jar filled with water. Works just fine for 100 watts or so, and is > useable not just > for power supplies bu

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-10-26 2:32 PM, Ian Finder wrote: Not sure how much of a noob you are, although you repeatedly claim to be one so just on the safe side we'll cover some Engineering for Poets (or Programmers) to reassure you ;) -- V = I * R Power (watts) = I * V You know the voltage of the monitor. You k

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Brian Archer
Hi Toby, I'll try to post some photos in a week or 2. Rob has asked me to make some internal load boards for him so I can show more details while I'm at it. The bulb is the best option in my opinion and seems to work just fine without additional cooling in the cube. -- Brian On Mon, Oct 26, 201

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > On 10/26/2015 10:52 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > > >> Damn, I already ordered a pile of HVAC gear. >> >> j/k - yeah that was what I was basically planning, Ian ... just as a >> noob, I'm not totally confident with what a single air cooled part

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Mike Stein
ff-Topic Posts" Cc: Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 2:32 PM Subject: Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again Not sure how much of a noob you are, although you repeatedly claim to be one so just on the safe side we'll cover some Engineering f

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread geneb
On Mon, 26 Oct 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote: The talk about dummy loads brought back a memory of the Heath Cantenna--an RF dummy load consisting of a Globar (noninductive) resistor in a gallon paint can filled with mineral oil with an attachment to a SO-239 "UHF" connector on top. IIRC, it was lit

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 10/26/2015 10:52 AM, Toby Thain wrote: Damn, I already ordered a pile of HVAC gear. j/k - yeah that was what I was basically planning, Ian ... just as a noob, I'm not totally confident with what a single air cooled part can dissipate. The talk about dummy loads brought back a memory of

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Ian Finder
Not sure how much of a noob you are, although you repeatedly claim to be one so just on the safe side we'll cover some Engineering for Poets (or Programmers) to reassure you ;) -- V = I * R Power (watts) = I * V You know the voltage of the monitor. You know the resistance of your resistor. So, yo

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-10-26 1:23 PM, Ian Finder wrote: This thread took a turn for the absurd. Oil? Water? What a practical bunch of people. /s They make resistors with adequate cooling... Almost as if they're rated for a certain number of watts of dissipation and you can buy them based on that. They are resi

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Ian Finder
This thread took a turn for the absurd. Oil? Water? What a practical bunch of people. /s They make resistors with adequate cooling... Almost as if they're rated for a certain number of watts of dissipation and you can buy them based on that. They are resistors after all. And if they overheat-

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread simon
please skip this ridicule and grab yourself a couple of headlights from a car. On 26-10-15 17:16, Dale H. Cook wrote: My recommendation of oil is based upon my decades of experience with broadband dummy loads from 60 watts to 2.5 kilowatts. The dummy loads that I have worked with for medium

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 11:09 AM 10/26/2015, Paul Koning wrote: >... but tap water even in NYC? New York City tap water is of higher quality than the tap water available in many US cities. Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA Osborne 1 / Kaypro 4-84 / Kaypro 1 / Amstrad PPC-640 http://plymouthcolony.net/starcity/rad

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Dale H. Cook
My recommendation of oil is based upon my decades of experience with broadband dummy loads from 60 watts to 2.5 kilowatts. The dummy loads that I have worked with for medium wave and below and from 5 kilowatts down have all been convection air cooled. Broadband dummy loads that I have used for h

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Peter Coghlan
> > OK, so a couple years back, I wanted to have some chemistry fun with the kids. > So, I got out the jump cables, clamped them onto some aluminum foil, stuffed > the foil into test tubes, filled the tubes with water, inverted both of them > in the same basin and sprinkled in a little salt, cranke

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-10-26 16:09, Paul Koning wrote: On Oct 26, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote: At 10:45 AM 10/26/2015, Jerry Weiss wrote: Water in the dummy load? Water cooled - sure. Water immersed? Even though I see it posted on the web, i have may doubts it would be a stable method.

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 11:21 AM, Tapley, Mark wrote: > > On Oct 26, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > >>> I concur. Tap water may have contaminants (such as chlorine) that will >>> cause electrical leakage. >> >> Sure, but so what? A dummy load is supposed to have electrical leakage.

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Tapley, Mark
On Oct 26, 2015, at 10:09 AM, Paul Koning wrote: >> I concur. Tap water may have contaminants (such as chlorine) that will cause >> electrical leakage. > > Sure, but so what? A dummy load is supposed to have electrical leakage. All > that water contamination would do is reduce the effective

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 11:02 AM, Dale H. Cook wrote: > > At 10:45 AM 10/26/2015, Jerry Weiss wrote: > >> Water in the dummy load? Water cooled - sure. Water immersed? Even >> though I see it posted on the web, i have may doubts it would be a stable >> method. > > I concur. Tap water ma

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > > >> On Oct 26, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Jerry Weiss wrote: >> >> Water in the dummy load? Water cooled - sure. Water immersed? ... > ... > But for low voltage dummy loads, or for medium power ham transmitters, the > voltages involved are

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread wulfman
Distilled water will not conduct. Its a perfect insulator. It will work fine. On 10/26/2015 7:45 AM, Jerry Weiss wrote: > Water in the dummy load? Water cooled - sure. Water immersed? Even > though I see it posted on the web, i have may doubts it would be a stable > method. > > Oil is t

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 10:45 AM 10/26/2015, Jerry Weiss wrote: >Water in the dummy load? Water cooled - sure. Water immersed? Even >though I see it posted on the web, i have may doubts it would be a stable >method. I concur. Tap water may have contaminants (such as chlorine) that will cause electrical leak

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Jerry Weiss wrote: > > Water in the dummy load? Water cooled - sure. Water immersed? Even > though I see it posted on the web, i have may doubts it would be a stable > method. How stable do you need? > > Oil is the usual medium here. Transformer oil

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Jerry Weiss
Water in the dummy load? Water cooled - sure. Water immersed? Even though I see it posted on the web, i have may doubts it would be a stable method. Oil is the usual medium here. Excluding of course the pre-1980 transformer oils that were notorious for having contaminated PCB’s with

Re: Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Paul Koning
> On Oct 26, 2015, at 9:43 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > > On 2015-10-26 1:02 AM, Brian Archer wrote: >> Even a 10W resistor will get really hot. I embed two 5W resistors into a >> pentium class CPU cooler for a good compromise on space/thermal concerns. My favorite low tech dummy load is the one my

Model 152 PSU dummy loads - Re: NeXT Cube - powers on briefly then off again

2015-10-26 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-10-26 1:02 AM, Brian Archer wrote: Even a 10W resistor will get really hot. I embed two 5W resistors into a pentium class CPU cooler for a good compromise on space/thermal concerns. You can see a pic on my site here: http://asterontech.com/Asterontech/next_adb_conversion.html Hi Brian