Re: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-12 Thread Jay Jaeger
The RL01/RL02 Users Guide (bitsavers.org/pdf/dec/disc/rl01_rl02) Figure 2-25 on page 2.35 describes the positioner restraining bracket that should be put in place before shipping. It is just a little square piece of metal (probably aluminum) with a single screw that holds it down that sits in

Re: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-12 Thread Mark J. Blair
Very good explanation, Tony! Is there any chance that he might need to worry about a pack being inside the drive with the heads un-parked, e.g. from an abrupt power failure? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-12 Thread devin davison
Excellent descriptive instructions. Ill print them out. Thanks. On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 9:21 AM, tony duell a...@p850ug1.demon.co.uk wrote: Thank you all for the excellent information. I think i have a pretty clear idea on what im dealing with now. Quick question though, what if there is

RE: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-12 Thread tony duell
Very good explanation, Tony! Is there any chance that he might need to worry about a pack being inside the drive with the heads un-parked, e.g. from an abrupt power failure? I would hope not (IIRC all DEC drives are designed to retract heads if the power fails). If the heads are still

RE: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-12 Thread tony duell
Thank you all for the excellent information. I think i have a pretty clear idea on what im dealing with now. Quick question though, what if there is a pack in the drive? What holds the pack in there? Can the pack be removed without power? Believe-it-or-not the pack is held to the spindle by

Re: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-10 Thread David Humphries
- Original Message - From: devin davison lyokob...@gmail.com To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts cctalk@classiccmp.org Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 2:05 PM Subject: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice I asked for advice a while back on

Re: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-10 Thread devin davison
I made a mistake. I was reading about the floppy drive and accidentally mentioned the rx01 / rx02. The hardware to be moved is actually RL01/RL02 hard drives, not the floppy drive. Please forgive the mix up, any help is appreciated. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Matt Patoray

Re: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-10 Thread devin davison
Once I do this myself i plan to put up a gallery of lots of pictures to help another newcomer such as myself. Not having seen the actual hardware is what gets me the most mixed up. On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 12:11 AM, devin davison lyokob...@gmail.com wrote: I made a mistake. I was reading about

Re: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-10 Thread Paul Koning
On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Noel Chiappa j...@mercury.lcs.mit.edu wrote: From: devin davison I was told to lock the heads in the rx01 and rx02 drives. Err, I think we told you to lock the heads the RL0x's, not RX0x's; the former use large rigid packs, the latter are 8 floppy drives.

Re: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-10 Thread Jerry Weiss
Make sure the doors are shut. I used to tape them. Remove any floppies you care about. Some of the non-DEC 8” drives used to come with a cardboard blank. But these were double sided disks and the blank was meant (I believe) to prevent the heads from banging against each other. Jerry Weiss

PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-10 Thread devin davison
I asked for advice a while back on what to expect with moving a pdp 11, I was told to lock the heads in the rx01 and rx02 drives. I'M getting pretty lost in all the information about the drives, are there any good guides or sites with lots of pictures of the drives taken from different angles

RE: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-10 Thread tony duell
I asked for advice a while back on what to expect with moving a pdp 11, I was told to lock the heads in the rx01 and rx02 drives. I'M getting pretty No. The RX01 and RX02 are dual 8 floppy drives. There is no need (or way) to lock the heads in those. Both are single head units, so there is no

Re: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-10 Thread Jerry Weiss
See page 2-8 for a view of the packing configuration. http://www.pdp8online.com/pdp8cgi/query_docs/tifftopdf.pl/pdp8docs/ek-0rx02-tm-001.pdf http://www.pdp8online.com/pdp8cgi/query_docs/tifftopdf.pl/pdp8docs/ek-0rx02-tm-001.pdf Jerry Weiss j...@ieee.org On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Jerry

RE: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-10 Thread tony duell
From: tony duell I find [RL0x's] easier than RK05s Try taking out an RA81! I did an R80 (not much lighter) single-handedly. The trick with those is to take the HDA out. It takes only a few minutes. Raise the logic chassis (top part of the case including the front panel), then

Re: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-10 Thread Matt Patoray
The RA60 is my least favorite drive to move. The thought of disassembling it crossed my mind but since it was being slid into a rack with a shelf and not on rails it would not have helped much, so just picked it up, carried it over and shoved it in. On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 3:22 PM, tony duell

Re: PDP 11 - how to lock heads in a rx01 and rx02 - seeking advice

2015-07-10 Thread Noel Chiappa
From: tony duell I find [RL0x's] easier than RK05s Try taking out an RA81! (Somewhere I have pictures of the rig I built to take a couple of RA81's out of some racks I was sent. I should post them...) Noel