Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/11/2017 07:22 PM, Chris Elmquist wrote: > Lincoln had ETAOIN on his personalized MN license plate (on the very well > worn Ford full size van he drove) and another guy had SHRDLU on his plates. > > I was told that the name came from this string which could be found in > printed works and

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-11 Thread Chris Elmquist via cctalk
Lincoln had ETAOIN on his personalized MN license plate (on the very well worn Ford full size van he drove) and another guy had SHRDLU on his plates. I was told that the name came from this string which could be found in printed works and that people had always seen it but just read past it

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-11 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/11/2017 11:09 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > No, not kerning. Justifying. Linotype machines can't kern; when that's done > in metal typesetting, which is rare, it involves cutting bevels onto the > sides of the type blocks to allow them to partly overlap. You're correct; I misstated the

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-11 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Sep 10, 2017, at 10:55 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk > wrote: > > On 09/10/2017 06:25 PM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: > >> There was one of those machines in my Junior High School shop >> classroom. I saw it run once (not well enough to successfully set a >> line

RE: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-11 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Dave Wade > via cctalk > Sent: 11 September 2017 10:28 > To: 'Chuck Guzis' ; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off- > Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: RIP Jerry

RE: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-11 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Alan Turing used the Teletypes on the Manchester MK1 to write letters. I doubt he had any software, just typed, perhaps using paper tape to edit. Dave > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chuck > Guzis via cctalk > Sent: 11 September

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-10 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/10/2017 06:25 PM, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: > There was one of those machines in my Junior High School shop > classroom. I saw it run once (not well enough to successfully set a > line of type, but nearly). > > I endorse Mark’s assessment of its safety characteristics... I knew a

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-10 Thread Tapley, Mark via cctalk
On Sep 10, 2017, at 7:55 PM, Mark Linimon via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 04:55:48PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: >> Not nearly as funny to watch as a Mergenthaler Linotype hot-type >> machine, I'll wager. > > I got to see one in use my freshman year

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-10 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
On Sun, Sep 10, 2017 at 04:55:48PM -0700, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: > Not nearly as funny to watch as a Mergenthaler Linotype hot-type > machine, I'll wager. I got to see one in use my freshman year of college. The school newspaper was still set that way (out of loyalty for the people who

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-10 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/10/2017 03:43 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > I tried to interest my publisher in going straight from microcomputer > into typesetting machine, but I couldn't do that disk format, and the > Rochester Dynatyper was too funny to watch. Not nearly as funny to watch as a Mergenthaler

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-10 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Sun, 10 Sep 2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: Fred, you forgot that Tesla invented alternating current... I wasn't around for that stuff. From what I've heard, he didn't get into public electrocutions to demonstrate. It seems that anything with a typewriter style keyboard and ANY sort

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-10 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 09/10/2017 11:08 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > But, there were MANY obscure, mostly unpublished, manuscripts among the > VERY first uses of word processing. Well before Jerry got into computers. In fact, I'm aware of at least one novel that was composed using punched cards on a

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-10 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer FIRST??!? By now, you should know better than to EVER use that word in the presence of those who were there during the history - it's comparable to saying that Steve Jobs invented the first computer, or that billg invented

Re: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt

2017-09-10 Thread Mike Stein via cctalk
- Original Message - From: "Ed via cctalk" To: Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2017 1:53 PM Subject: RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write a novel on a computer Early adopt > > > > RIP Jerry Pournelle, the first author to write