On Sun, 2021-12-05 at 12:00 -0600, Brie wrote:
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> He may as well have just come out and said, ?It triggers me and I
> don?t like having to acknowledge that women exist in the field of
> computer history.?
>
> ? Brie
Sorry to go off topic, but I have friends and family who are veterans
or
On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 3:01 PM Mike Begley via cctalk
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> Yeah, "woke" is one of those terms, like "PC", that immediately signals
> that the speaker can immediately be dismissed out of hand as having nothing
> worthwhile to say.
>
Especially in the context of historic computing. We aren't
Ugggh, as soon as I saw this conversation I new it was going to be a race to
the bottom. Actually, it was far less worse than I expected, so progress,
perhaps?
I've been frustrated by the lack of women in the industry, because there's no
rational reason for it and it feels like we're wasting
On Sun, 5 Dec 2021, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
This is a bad way to behave. Nobody should act like that. It violates
Wheaton's Law, which is a basic principle of how to be a civilised
human being.
For those unfamiliar, Weaton's Law: "Don't be a dick."
"OK, Boomer" is just a succinct
On Sat, 4 Dec 2021, Chris Long via cctalk wrote:
I accept that far less women than men work in computing.
I believe however that this is large due to their own perception of the
industry and their career choices.
It's not "perception". It's the rampant sexual harassment, "dudebro"
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> On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 at 16:09, Doc Shipley via cctalk
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> > On 12
expresses any alternative view is behaving
unacceptably?
Talk about snowflakes.
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On Sun, 5 Dec
On Sun, Dec 5, 2021 at 9:57 AM Chris Long via cctalk
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> Talk about snowflakes.
>
Can we please bring this whole tiresome political theater to an end?
If you are replying and thinking of using phrases from the current culture
war. Don't.
They are off topic here. Please Just Don't.
Warner
expresses any alternative view is behaving
unacceptably?
Talk about snowflakes.
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On Sun, 5 Dec
Can we please return to discussions of actual classic computers, before our
long-suffering list host shuts the list down _again_ for this sort of
argument, this time perhaps forever? Thank you.
Noel
On Sun, 5 Dec 2021 at 16:09, Doc Shipley via cctalk
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> On 12/4/21 12:37, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:
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> > OK, Boomer.
> >
> There's really no call to be nasty about it.
>
> To those of us who are baby boomers, that usage is extremely offensive.
I suspect that was the plan.
Chris
On 12/4/21 12:37, Josh Dersch via cctalk wrote:
OK, Boomer.
There's really no call to be nasty about it.
To those of us who are baby boomers, that usage is extremely offensive.
Doc
I actually created an account to support this but I think it already
has enough votes to get it made. I ended up giving private feedback.
I like vintage computing legos and I have a few of Chris McVeigh's
sets before he went to work for LEGO. I would like to see these sets
get made.
These sets
t;> Unfortunately, the ones that throw the term ‘woke’ around like that
> tend
> >> to have pretty strong feelings about a “woman’s place in society”.
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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> >>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:55 PM, newsgro...@micromuseu
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Using the term ‘woke’ these days is a great way to render any point you
are trying to make mo
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:55 PM, newsgro...@micromuseum.co.uk wrote:
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> >> On the contrary I consider it implicit that they played an equal role
> - and the need to make toys to indicate it is somewhat sad.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-----
&g
geeky" and several of them are married men who do work in IT.
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equal role - and
the need to make toys to indicate it is somewhat sad.
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Using the term ‘woke’ these days is a great way
ried men who do work in IT.
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On 2021-12-04 2:55 p.m., Chris Long via cctalk wrote:
> On the contrary
: Re: Women of Computing
Using the term ‘woke’ these days is a great way to render any point you are
trying to make moot. Great way to make people people not take you seriously.
He may as well have just come out and said, “It triggers me and I don’t like
having to acknowledge that women exist
On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 06:20:33PM -, Chris Long via cctalk wrote:
> Great.not.
>
> Why do we need woke Lego?
To annoy people who use dogwhistles.
Woke lego?? What lego has been at fore front of this idea of being open to
all for a long time so woke hah no being there as a community of growing
and creativity yes...
What's wrong with bringing out a set to celebrate these women who in many
cases worked in toxic male bs environments... let's
gt; the need to make toys to indicate it is somewhat sad.
>
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> Using the t
: Re: Women of Computing
Using the term ‘woke’ these days is a great way to render any point you are
trying to make moot. Great way to make people people not take you seriously.
He may as well have just come out and said, “It triggers me and I don’t like
having to acknowledge that women exist
Using the term ‘woke’ these days is a great way to render any point you are
trying to make moot. Great way to make people people not take you seriously.
He may as well have just come out and said, “It triggers me and I don’t like
having to acknowledge that women exist in the field of computer
I'm curious what your definition of 'woke' is, because it seems grossly
misapplied in this instance.
--Jason
On 12/4/21 10:20, Chris Long via cctalk wrote:
Great.not.
Why do we need woke Lego?
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Sent: 03 December
On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 10:20 AM Chris Long via cctalk
wrote:
Great.not.
Why do we need woke Lego?
Excellent use of compression on the list: a question that contains its
own answer :-)
Antonio
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Antonio Carlini
anto...@acarlini.com
I really want to see this set produced, especially for the ???Ada Lovelace???
and ???Admiral Hopper??? portions of the set.
https://ideas.lego.com/blogs/a4ae09b6-0d4c-4307-9da8-3ee9f3d368d6/post/f39b7001-bf76-46ba-9d61-cb586f1c7a7d
On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 10:59 AM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
> The correct answer is women and men in computing within some sort of
> historical context so that it does not seem like the fact that a person
> happens to be a woman that they're being featured rather than due to their
> actual
The correct answer is women and men in computing within some sort of
historical context so that it does not seem like the fact that a person
happens to be a woman that they're being featured rather than due to their
actual accomplishments.
On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 1:38 PM Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 10:20 AM Chris Long via cctalk
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> Great.not.
>
> Why do we need woke Lego?
>
OK, Boomer.
- Josh
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Great.not.
Why do we need woke Lego?
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Subject: Women of Computing
I really want to see this set produced, especially for the “Ada
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