VAX 11/750

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VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-06 Thread Alan Perry
Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com). alan On 7/4/15 1:40 PM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-07-04 4:35 PM, Mattis Lind wrote:

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-06 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
On 6 July 2015 at 23:03, Alan Perry wrote: > Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind > knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are > interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com). > Sorry for the scope creep; but

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-06 Thread couryhouse
Great idea!   Ed# Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove Date: 07/06/2015 8:17 PM (GMT-07:00) To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Revivin

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-06 Thread COURYHOUSE
will this include micro vax also? Ed# In a message dated 7/6/2015 8:03:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ape...@snowmoose.com writes: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-07-06 11:17 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: On 6 July 2015 at 23:03, Alan Perry wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread P Gebhardt
>> Sorry for the scope creep; but perhaps it might be more >> useful/interesting to make it a registry of any VAX that has a name of >> the form "VAX-11/7xx"? (Which could also include the VAX 8600 and > VAX >> 8650, since were originally to be called the VAX-11/790 and >> VAX-11/795.) >

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Fred Cisin
I'd vote for "big VAX" list. The minutiae of marketing names is pretty boring and irrelevant to such a list isn't it? Should the requirement be weight, physical size, or what tools are lost in it?

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Jay West
Should the requirement be weight, physical size, or what tools are lost in it? BTU requirements.

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Robert Armstrong
>I'd vote for "big VAX" list. I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should qualify. I think that would include all the 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in a 9000... BTW, is this list limited to machines that are in operable con

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread tony duell
> BTW, is this list limited to machines that are in operable condition? I would include machines that were clearly restorable. OK, anything can be restored, but you know what I mean :-). In other words an 11/730 or 11/750 that needs its TU58 rollers replaced, or an 11/780 that needs somebody

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-07 20:54, Robert Armstrong wrote: I'd vote for "big VAX" list. I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should qualify. I think that would include all the 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in a 9000... 9000 is also XMI

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread tony duell
> >I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should > > qualify. I think that would include all the > > 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in > > a 9000... > > 9000 is also XMI. Several of them, if I remember right. SDI on the other

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-07 23:49, tony duell wrote: I'd say any VAX with a UNIBUS, SDI, BI or XMI bus, at least, should qualify. I think that would include all the 7xx, 6xxx, 8xxx, and 7xxx/1 machines. I don't really know what was in a 9000... 9000 is also XMI. Several of them, if I remember r

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Antonio Carlini
On 07/07/15 23:06, Johnny Billquist wrote: I honestly don't have a good idea of what defines a "large" VAX. Buses feels unsuitable. Power connector maybe? :-) If the intention is to avoid a huge list then excluding MicroVAXes and VAXstations should produce a list of VAXen that you probably

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-08 01:25, Antonio Carlini wrote: On 07/07/15 23:06, Johnny Billquist wrote: I honestly don't have a good idea of what defines a "large" VAX. Buses feels unsuitable. Power connector maybe? :-) If the intention is to avoid a huge list then excluding MicroVAXes and VAXstations should

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Robert Armstrong
>P Gebhardt p.gebhardt at ymail.com wrote: > wonder how the ratio of VAX 6000s and 7000s in enthusiasts' hands > compared of VAX 11's in terms of numbers is? I guess that /780 and > larger systems are rare, but I'd guess that there are some more /730 > and /750 around. No idea if my gut feeling ref

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread william degnan
There is a HECNET list http://madame.update.uu.se/~bqt/nodedb?search=&field=0&sort=0 With that in mind, a more list of "live" VAXen of any type, operating hours, IP/domain, hardware, owner, location. I realize it's not a list of every known VAX out there, but "live/operational/networking status"

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-07 23:30, Robert Armstrong wrote: P Gebhardt p.gebhardt at ymail.com wrote: wonder how the ratio of VAX 6000s and 7000s in enthusiasts' hands compared of VAX 11's in terms of numbers is? I guess that /780 and larger systems are rare, but I'd guess that there are some more /730 and /750

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Robert Armstrong
>Johnny Billquist bqt at update.uu.se wrote: >some of the 8000-series stuff are probably the biggest ... Not all of them. The 82xx/83xx family was just one 10-1/2" chassis for the CPU - the same physical size as a 11/730, yet they were genuine single or dual CPU BI bus VAXen. Of course, many o

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Antonio Carlini
On 07/07/15 23:02, Johnny Billquist wrote: Right. But I did say "some". :-) Think 8978 for example... Does that really count as a VAX? It was just a marketing name for cluster ... Antonio

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread P Gebhardt
- Ursprüngliche Message - > Von: Johnny Billquist > An: cct...@classiccmp.org > CC: > Gesendet: 23:02 Dienstag, 7.Juli 2015 > Betreff: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) > > On 2015-07-07 23:55, Robert Armstrong wrote: >>> Johnny Billq

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-07 23:55, Robert Armstrong wrote: Johnny Billquist bqt at update.uu.se wrote: some of the 8000-series stuff are probably the biggest ... Not all of them. The 82xx/83xx family was just one 10-1/2" chassis for the CPU - the same physical size as a 11/730, yet they were genuine sing

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-07 Thread Dave Wade
Personally I think anything with castors on On Jul 8, 2015 7:37 AM, "P Gebhardt" wrote: > > > - Ursprüngliche Message - > > Von: Johnny Billquist > > An: cct...@classiccmp.org > > CC: > > Gesendet: 23:02 Dienstag, 7.Juli 2015 > > Betr

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-08 01:19, Antonio Carlini wrote: On 07/07/15 23:02, Johnny Billquist wrote: Right. But I did say "some". :-) Think 8978 for example... Does that really count as a VAX? It was just a marketing name for cluster ... Good question. The designation definitely existed, but yes, it's j

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Fred Cisin
On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with castors on No. I have a PC "server" case from late 286 era with tiny casters. But, it was nice to be able to have more than 4 "full-height" drives.

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with castors on No. I have a PC "server" case from late 286 era with tiny casters. But, it was nice to be able to have more than 4 "full-height" drives. Plus I'm guessing (admitte

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jul 8, 2015, at 08:34, Toby Thain wrote: > > Plus I'm guessing (admittedly) that the Really Big VAX racks don't have > castors either? The VAX-11/780 has casters. Back in college, a friend and I pushed a decommissioned 11/780 out of the computer room and into our boss's tiny office whil

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Guy Dawson
Oh yes they did! And screw down feet. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=VAX#/media/File:SPEC-1_VAX_05.jpg On 8 July 2015 at 16:34, Toby Thain wrote: > On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > >> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: >> >>> Personally I think anything with castors on >>> >>

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Guy Sotomayor
> On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > > On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: >> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: >>> Personally I think anything with castors on >> >> No. >> I have a PC "server" case from late 286 era with tiny casters. >> But, it was nice to be able to

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-07-08 12:05 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with castors on No. I have a PC "server" case from late 286 era with tiny casters. But,

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Dave G4UGM
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred Cisin > Sent: 08 July 2015 15:47 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) > > On Wed, 8 Jul

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Dave G4UGM
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Toby Thain > Sent: 08 July 2015 16:34 > To: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off- > Topic Posts > Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Sean Caron
And not consistent; under that criterion a BA123 or S-box would count but a BA23-based system is disqualified, while the two could be identical systems once you open up the card cage! No fair. :O Best, Sean On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wro

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Sean Caron
I've never meet a full-size rack that didn't have casters ... otherwise there'd be no way to move it around. :O There must have been? Of course, you'd put the feet down once the equipment is situated. Best, Sean On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred

FW: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Robert Armstrong
>Perhaps SDI is a typo for SBI, as in the 11/780? Yeah, exactly. Sometimes the fingers are faster than the brain :-) Synchronous Backplane Interconnect - the system bus used on the 78x and some of the 8000 machines. Bob

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Sean Caron
iscuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off- > > Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) > > > > On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > > On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: > > >> Personally I think anything

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Sean Caron wrote: > I love those server hoists... the data center that I work in at U-M has two > of them, however they are made by Genie and they are a hand-crank type, no > automatic lift. They easily turn a job that could require two, three or > even four people

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Guy Sotomayor
On 7/8/15 12:59 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Sean Caron wrote: I love those server hoists... the data center that I work in at U-M has two of them, however they are made by Genie and they are a hand-crank type, no automatic lift. They easily turn a job that could req

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Alan Perry
On 7/6/15 8:17 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: On 6 July 2015 at 23:03, Alan Perry wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoos

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Alan Perry
there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com). alan On 7/4/15 1:40 PM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-07-04 4:35 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: Well. D

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Alan Perry
On 7/7/15 1:50 PM, tony duell wrote: BTW, is this list limited to machines that are in operable condition? I would include machines that were clearly restorable. OK, anything can be restored, but you know what I mean :-). In other words an 11/730 or 11/750 that needs its TU58 rollers replac

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Alan Perry
On 7/7/15 4:35 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-07-08 01:25, Antonio Carlini wrote: On 07/07/15 23:06, Johnny Billquist wrote: I honestly don't have a good idea of what defines a "large" VAX. Buses feels unsuitable. Power connector maybe? :-) If the intention is to avoid a huge list then

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Michael Thompson
> > Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:25:01 +0100 > From: Antonio Carlini > Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) > > If the intention is to avoid a huge list then excluding MicroVAXes and > VAXstations should produce a list of VAXen > that you probably ca

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Sean Caron
think that would be a lot more work, > wouldn't it? > > alan > > > On 7/6/15 11:52 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: > >> will this include micro vax also? Ed# >> In a message dated 7/6/2015 8:03:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, >> ape...@snowmoose.com

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-09 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
. Some filtering on the output and bobs your uncle. /P On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 08:03:12PM -0700, Alan Perry wrote: > Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't > mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If > you are interested, send me

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
were made? I think that would be a lot more work, wouldn't it? alan On 7/6/15 11:52 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: will this include micro vax also? Ed# In a message dated 7/6/2015 8:03:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ape...@snowmoose.com writes: Is there any interest in sta

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
, Jul 06, 2015 at 08:03:12PM -0700, Alan Perry wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com). alan On 7/4/15 1:40 PM, Toby Thain wrote

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-09 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-07-09 5:28 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-07-09 09:29, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: Sorry for top-posting but having read this thread I feel you are discriminating for no real reason. Certainly, if the registry is a plain old text file with one maintainer then some limitations is probabl

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-09 15:13, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-07-09 5:28 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-07-09 09:29, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: Sorry for top-posting but having read this thread I feel you are discriminating for no real reason. Certainly, if the registry is a plain old text file with one mai

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-09 Thread William Donzelli
> I don't have any firm data, but I suspect it's way beyond that. > Only among the people I know personally, and clubs, I'll probably be able to > count around 20 (if not more). And that is a very small circle of people > compared to the whole world. Yes, the true number may be well beyond 1000. J

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-09 Thread Jay West
This may be hosted on the classiccmp server if you wish. There are already plans afoot for a registry there that would include both public and private listings, as well as measures to ensure entries that are desired to be anonymous (but verified) can be presented as well. The initial idea was for H

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-09 Thread Robert Armstrong
> But with an rdbms and a nice front then it could encompass all makes and models. Linux, a web page form, some PHP scripts and MySQL and we're done. Any volunteers ??? :-) One problem is going to be authentication. If it has any contact information (and it seems like it would need to in or

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-09 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-07-09 1:20 PM, Robert Armstrong wrote: But with an rdbms and a nice front then it could encompass all makes and models. Linux, a web page form, some PHP scripts and MySQL and we're done. Any ^ Chilling words. Ar

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-09 Thread Sean Caron
Gotta give Rob credit for at least throwing something out there ... what approach would you take? Best, Sean On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:43 PM, Toby Thain wrote: > On 2015-07-09 1:20 PM, Robert Armstrong wrote: > >> But with an rdbms and a nice front then it could encompass all makes and >>> >>

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-09 Thread Jay West
>One problem is going to be authentication. If it has any contact > information (and it seems like it would need to in order to be useful) > then it's gonna become a target for SPAM. Captcha? J

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-09 Thread Jay West
>Linux, a web page form, some PHP scripts and MySQL and we're done. > Any ^ Chilling words. Are you TRYING to get Jay to withdraw his offer of hosting? Hah. The classiccmp server is LAMP... so none of the above is a pro

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-10 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Jay West wrote: >>One problem is going to be authentication. If it has any contact >> information (and it seems like it would need to in order to be useful) >> then it's gonna become a target for SPAM. > Captcha? And if you add a simple question in plain engl

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-10 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 7:36 AM, Jay West wrote: One problem is going to be authentication. If it has any contact information (and it seems like it would need to in order to be useful) then it's gonna become a target for SPAM. Captcha? Isn'y third world labor cheap enough to out-source Ca

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-10 Thread Alan Perry
VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com). alan On 7/4/15 1:40 PM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-07-04 4:35 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: Well. Despite all recent VAX-11/750 bashi

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-10 Thread John Willis
>What control store does it have? > > I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Are you asking for the > microcode revision? That would also apply to pretty much all VAXes. > > Probably referring to the L0005 CPU Control Store vs. L0008 Patchable Control Store. There's also a few types of L0008

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-10 Thread Robert Armstrong
> Alan Perry [ape...@snowmoose.com] wrote: > ... I was going to include a lot of 11/750-specific fields. > Does it have a Unibus expansion cabinet? That would apply to all 7xx VAXes, as well as many of the 8xxx family. I don't think any others had a UBA option, but I could easily be wrong. >Wh

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-10 Thread Alan Perry
On 7/10/15 10:10 AM, Robert Armstrong wrote: Alan Perry [ape...@snowmoose.com] wrote: ... I was going to include a lot of 11/750-specific fields. Does it have a Unibus expansion cabinet? That would apply to all 7xx VAXes, as well as many of the 8xxx family. I don't think any others had a UBA

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2016-05-01 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-07-06 11:03 PM, Alan Perry wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com). alan Since I've heard of a few 11/75

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2016-05-01 Thread Lee Courtney
I have a vague recollection of this - have you reached out to Alan to determine current status? Lee C. On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Toby Thain wrote: > On 2015-07-06 11:03 PM, Alan Perry wrote: > >> Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't &g

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2016-05-01 Thread Alan Perry
Courtney wrote: > > I have a vague recollection of this - have you reached out to Alan to > determine current status? > > Lee C. > > On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Toby Thain > wrote: > >>> On 2015-07-06 11:03 PM, Alan Perry wrote: >>> >>&g

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2016-05-01 Thread Alan Perry
Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Toby Thain > wrote: > >>> On 2015-07-06 11:03 PM, Alan Perry wrote: >>> >>> Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't >>> mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2016-05-01 Thread Josh Dersch
interested in running the registry, but maybe he can pass the mantle onto someone else... - Josh On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-07-06 11:03 PM, Alan Perry wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else o

ISO: VAX-11/750

2016-02-03 Thread Josh Dersch
So, I figure it's unlikely, but I've been jonesing for a "larger" VAX and I'd like to track down an 11/750 (or an 11/730). If anyone out there has one for sale trade (in any condition apart from "pile of slag"), let me know. I have DEC and various other gear for trade. Thanks as always! - Jo

Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-23 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 2/23/21 4:16 PM, Jan-Benedict Glaw via cctalk wrote: > Hi! > > Just stumbled over https://www.ebay.de/itm/265064917329 . Is it a > system somebody of you is offering? Given that it would need to be > shipped through Europe and is in unknown condition, I'd probably > bid a few Euros on it. > >

Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-23 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is impressive and all that. However it doesn't look like that one has a MASSBUS adapter so I will have to pass... And I just gave away a M7850 memory board :-) C On 2/23/2021 8:02 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 2/23/21

Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-23 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 9:53 PM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: > Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is > impressive and all that. I started on an 11/750 in 1984. They are fantastic little machines. If you only have 3-4 users on them, they are quite peppy. > Howeve

Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Mattis Lind via cctalk
Den ons 24 feb. 2021 kl 04:57 skrev Ethan Dicks via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org>: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 9:53 PM Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > > Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is > > impressive and all that. > > I started on an 11/750 in 1984. They a

Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 2/23/21 10:57 PM, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 9:53 PM Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is impressive and all that. I started on an 11/750 in 1984. They are fantastic little machines. If you only have

Re: FW: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

2015-07-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-07-08 19:21, Robert Armstrong wrote: Perhaps SDI is a typo for SBI, as in the 11/780? Yeah, exactly. Sometimes the fingers are faster than the brain :-) Synchronous Backplane Interconnect - the system bus used on the 78x and some of the 8000 machines. The 8600 and 8650 are th

Reviving a VAX-11/750

2015-06-15 Thread Mattis Lind
module (the first one had RAM error) to run the DPM and MIC test which passed. The I ran the "Hardcore VAX instruction test" / TU58#7 which also passed fine. BUT the Cache / TB diag, TU58#5, give me this: %% 16 >>>B %% @?ECKAL -- VAX 11/750 Cache/TB Diagnostic 000

Re: ISO: VAX-11/750

2016-02-03 Thread Raymond Wiker
> On 04 Feb 2016, at 03:41 , Josh Dersch wrote: > > So, I figure it's unlikely, but I've been jonesing for a "larger" VAX and I'd > like to track down an 11/750 (or an 11/730). If anyone out there has one for > sale trade (in any condition apart from "pile of slag"), let me know. I have > D

Re: ISO: VAX-11/750

2016-02-03 Thread Josh Dersch
On 2/3/16 7:58 PM, Raymond Wiker wrote: On 04 Feb 2016, at 03:41 , Josh Dersch wrote: So, I figure it's unlikely, but I've been jonesing for a "larger" VAX and I'd like to track down an 11/750 (or an 11/730). If anyone out there has one for sale trade (in any condition apart from "pile of sl

Re: ISO: VAX-11/750

2016-02-03 Thread Lee Courtney
Date on the 730 notice is Aug 2009 - I suspect it is long gone by now. :-( Lee C. On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 8:22 PM, Josh Dersch wrote: > On 2/3/16 7:58 PM, Raymond Wiker wrote: > >> On 04 Feb 2016, at 03:41 , Josh Dersch wrote: >>> >>> So, I figure it's unlikely, but I've been jonesing for a "la

Re: ISO: VAX-11/750

2016-02-03 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Feb 3, 2016, at 20:37, Lee Courtney wrote: > > Date on the 730 notice is Aug 2009 - I suspect it is long gone by now. :-( Where do you see that? The listing states: "Status: Open 2/1/16 - 02/07/16 23:59:00" -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: ISO: VAX-11/750

2016-02-04 Thread Jim Carpenter
On Feb 4, 2016 01:30, "Mark J. Blair" wrote: > > > > On Feb 3, 2016, at 20:37, Lee Courtney wrote: > > > > Date on the 730 notice is Aug 2009 - I suspect it is long gone by now. :-( > > Where do you see that? The listing states: > > "Status: Open 2/1/16 - 02/07/16 23:59:00" > Lee must have quick

Re: ISO: VAX-11/750

2016-02-04 Thread B M
Josh, Where are you located? I might have a Vax-11/750 up for sale. Unfortunately, I did have to pay real money for it, so I am looking for $500. I am located near Calgary Alberta Canada. I can let you know additional details if you are interested. --barrym On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 7:41 PM

OT: captcha (was: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) )

2015-07-10 Thread Tapley, Mark
On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > Isn't third world labor cheap enough to out-source Captcha answering in bulk? Only if someone has a failure of imagination. Here’s the way the third-world interface on that application will probably look: “Exercises in applied colloquial Englis

Re: OT: captcha (was: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) )

2015-07-10 Thread Fred Cisin
Isn't third world labor cheap enough to out-source Captcha answering in bulk? Only if someone has a failure of imagination. Here’s the way the third-world interface on that application will probably look: “Exercises in applied colloquial English translation” “Only 35 per hour" :-( lumosity.c

Re: Reviving a VAX-11/750

2015-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
I wasn't aware that you are working on a 750 repair. Congratulations on the progress you have already made! Are you using real console tapes, tu58em, or something else?

Re: Reviving a VAX-11/750

2015-06-15 Thread Mattis Lind
2015-06-15 17:32 GMT+02:00 Mark J. Blair : > I wasn't aware that you are working on a 750 repair. Congratulations on > the progress you have already made! Are you using real console tapes, > tu58em, or something else? > Well. I am probably working on to much simultaneously. But this machine is 10

Re: Reviving a VAX-11/750

2015-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:06 , Mattis Lind wrote: > > Well. I am probably working on to much simultaneously. I am very guilty of that, too! :) > Then I compiled your fork of tu58em on github. And it worked perfect. I > didn't need to use the special vax mode that you have implemented though. >

RE: Reviving a VAX-11/750

2015-06-15 Thread tony duell
> > The bad thing with the 11/750 is that is has so many socketed TTL gate > > array chips. Sockets are bad. And gate arrays are bad. In that sense I Years ago I was offered an 11/750 and turned it down as soon as I saw inside the cardcage. No way would I want to maintain that mass of custom gate

Re: Reviving a VAX-11/750

2015-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
On my phone right now. Might type more after lunch. I think I have some 730 manuals that are not yet on Bitsavers. Some original and some photocopies. I plan to scan all of them. I also may dump the console firmware PROMs at some point. I've already done some preliminary disassembly of the TU

RE: Reviving a VAX-11/750

2015-06-15 Thread tony duell
> I also may dump the console firmware PROMs at some point. I've already done > some preliminary > disassembly of the TU58 firmware. I am pretty sure I dumped all the PROMs and PALs in the CPU of my 11/730 (but not the ones in the R80) long before there was a bitsavers. I can see if I can fin

Re: Reviving a VAX-11/750

2015-06-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:59 , tony duell wrote: > > >> I also may dump the console firmware PROMs at some point. I've already done >> some preliminary >> disassembly of the TU58 firmware. > > I am pretty sure I dumped all the PROMs and PALs in the CPU of my 11/730 (but > not the ones in the

Re: Reviving a VAX-11/750

2015-06-16 Thread Mattis Lind
In my efforts to understand the problem with the Cache/TB Diagnostics I tried to run it under 11/750 simulator in SimH. It fails too! ECKAL -- VAX 11/750 Cache/TB Diagnostic HALT instruction, PC: 2608 (MTPR #F,#26) Although not the same location. On the real machine: @?ECKAL -- VAX 11/750

Re: Reviving a VAX-11/750

2015-07-04 Thread Mattis Lind
Well. Despite all recent VAX-11/750 bashing it actually booted both VMS 6.1 and Ultrix-32 4.0 today. Yes, the gate arrays can be a problem. But until now I haven't found one that is faulty. The problem is usually bad contact in the sockets which can be solved easily by removing them and clea

Re: Reviving a VAX-11/750

2015-07-04 Thread Toby Thain
On 2015-07-04 4:35 PM, Mattis Lind wrote: Well. Despite all recent VAX-11/750 bashing it actually booted both VMS 6.1 and Ultrix-32 4.0 today. ... BTW. The CPU of the 11/750 is contained on five extended HEX boards, (L0002, L0003, L0004, L0008, L0011/L0016/L0022). Then there is the optional RMD

Re: Reviving a VAX-11/750

2015-07-04 Thread Mark J. Blair
As a random guy who thinks that VAX-11 machines are neat, I also salute you! -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread P Gebhardt via cctalk
Am Mittwoch, 24. Februar 2021, 03:53:19 MEZ hat Chris Zach via cctalk Folgendes geschrieben: >Wow, I've always wanted an 11/750. Not sure why, the small box size is >impressive and all that. However it doesn't look like that one has a >MASSBUS adapter so I will have to pass... > >And I just

Random musing: VCB02 on VAX-11/750

2017-05-27 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
So I had a random thought in the wee hours this morning and I leave it to you, the cctalk braintrust, to tell me exactly how stupid this idea is: I have a VAX-11/750, an Able QNiverter (UNIBUS->Qbus adapter), a 22-bit Qbus backplane, and a VCB02 (QDSS) 4-bit graphics boardset. Theory: W

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
I happen to have a massbus adapter and the cabling with terminator for my 11/750, but I never came across any massbus peripherals. Considering the price back then and the size for these, they seem nowadays quite rare, which is a real pity. Sort of. MASSBUS was a very overpriced and to be hone

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 02/24/2021 08:06 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: Sort of. MASSBUS was a very overpriced and to be honest weird system that DEC developed in an attempt to be like IBM and charge very high markups for generic peripherals. While it did support a variety of interface formats (I don't think t

Re: Massbus - was: Re: VAX 11/750

2021-02-24 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
On 2021-02-24 11:06 a.m., Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > On 02/24/2021 08:06 AM, Chris Zach via cctalk wrote: >> >> Sort of. MASSBUS was a very overpriced and to be honest weird system >> that DEC developed in an attempt to be like IBM and charge very high >> markups for generic peripherals. While

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